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Drail
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Aright, I'm sure most of you are getting really really sick of me "preaching" about sustainability and how we're all evil planet destroying assholes. But guess what? that's the reality we live in. Since around the new Millennium we have been talking more and more about "global warming", "climate change", and all that jazz. Personally I think the majority of North Americans totally missed the point.

I don't want to hear about little things like "i turn the lights off when I'm not in a room", "I recycle when I can" or other stuff like that. I want to hear what you have CHANGED in your life to better our failing system. car pooling (or even better - walking or biking), choosing one company over an other based on what they have done/are doing/plan to do. have you stopped using plastic bags? I want to see who here is taking this shit seriously and actually doing something.
Dec 23 2008 3:38PM
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Drail
Posts: 14041 - Karma: 10,293
did you know that the scientists out there are now predicting that the ice cap over the arctic ocean will melt entirely by 2013?

You've missed the point behind the concerns of global warming. The impacts of humans on this planet can't be ignored. As soon as you understand that we are destroying our ecosystem you will understand that what you just said doesn't make you any better than a person that doesn't recycle. Admit it - the only reason you drive your parents car is because it's cheaper for you. Why do you even own the gas guzzling truck in the first place if you don't like driving it?
Dec 23 2008 3:54PM
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cclan
Posts: 742 - Karma: 19
ilike to think my recycling habits/ attempting to use reycled paper/products helps out a lil here and there, personally, i think recycling should be some kind of law.
Dec 23 2008 3:54PM
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Sno.
Posts: 12155 - Karma: 6,152

way to tear someone a new asshole without just cause.

Assholes-- a bigger world-wide problem than global warming.

Dec 23 2008 3:57PM
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ShadyHillGroup
Posts: 2881 - Karma: 213
why don't you stop worrying about what other people do and focus on yourself. not everyone has to agree with you or even care about global warming, thats their problem not yours.
Dec 23 2008 4:04PM
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summersover
Posts: 5777 - Karma: 233
if "the small things" have no real affect then note how a bunch of kids on a website arent the ones causing global warming bro its the factories run by the multi million dollar corporations and governments and they couldn't give a fuck what the environment does its all about money to them so go preach somewhere else join green peace or something i dont know but you"re preaching to no one
and what have you done? i know you "have to be the change you wish to see in the world" but i see you doing nothing other than accusing us of not "changing" enough for you
and please this isnt what karma is for
Dec 23 2008 4:05PM
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Sno.
Posts: 12155 - Karma: 6,152

I've convinced my family and friends to plant a christmas tree in the yard, and decorate it each year, rather than supporting the slaughter of noble firs and other trees popular for christmas.

I noticed that at Microsoft banquets, there is always extra food left over, so I thought up a proposal to have all of the extra foods donated to a local soup kitchen.  My proposal was shut down.

I then noticed that Microsoft throws a way a ton of perfectly good office supplies, from computer peripherals, to pens, to notepads, etc. So I proposed that we contact a local school district, and start donating our extra supplies to schools in need rather than having things be thrown away.  My proposal was shut down.

You see the problem is, there are too many laws. Microsoft doesn't want to donate perishable food because they don't want to be sued when someone gets sick.

They don't want to donate office supplies to schools in need because it would cost them money to set up the program.

I don't throw away containers. I use them for tupperware. 

Dec 23 2008 4:06PM
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skithesprings
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I pull tires out of a stream near my house...

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then burn them...

jkjk. but just the burning part

Dec 23 2008 4:10PM
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charmander
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i walk everywhere (even when its cold as fuck and my hair freezes when i walk to school in the morning, its actually pretty funny haha). i shop at thrift stores. i use my ski shit till it doesnt work anymore.
Dec 23 2008 4:15PM
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MastaAce
Posts: 34 - Karma: 15
i neither accept or deny global warming, i think that humans may have an affect on the earths climate, however
i think what a lot of us don't realize is that there are a TON of private companies and private research firms and universities and government agencies that get tons of money to research "global warming"
so wouldn't it be in their best interest to have everyone convinced that we are having a huge impact?

now i have in no way done all the research and as a disclaimer i probably am wrong, but i just think some people aren't aware...

your thoughts ladies and gentleman?


and please as a side note kid didnt make a thread about the girl hes gonna bone tonight, or the pot he has that hes gonna smoke, so dont be so harsh on him, at least hes trying to do something good kinda.
Dec 23 2008 4:20PM
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Sholte
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i walk everywhere, but when there isnt snow on the ground i long board everywhere. i dont buy those crappy plastic water bottles, instead i use a sigg water bottle. when i go to the mountain i carpool there. its all small stuff, but hey the small stuff counts doesnt it?
Dec 23 2008 4:22PM
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MCIRONCOCK
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Idk personally i don't think humans are the sole cause of global warming. I remember seeing a show a year or two ago on discovery about how every once in a while the earth's magnetic fields shift, and north becomes south and vise versa. I think they mentioned something about the ozone breaking up and the earth becoming hotter as a result. The earth has always gone through times of change, maybe this is just the start or another one? I'm getting kind of preachy...

I do recycle though, but i have lots of bad habits that cancel it out.
Dec 23 2008 4:33PM
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sick-as-aids
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THE TRUTH












Dec 23 2008 4:33PM
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sick-as-aids
Posts: 3453 - Karma: 1,007
ARGH why do i suck at life!!!!
Dec 23 2008 4:34PM
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C.R.E.A.M
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kids got a good point, i think most Americans don't realize that.
Dec 23 2008 4:35PM
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HenniferLopez
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last year I had this impulsive habit of looking in every garbage can I walked by and digging around in it to find plastic bottles and cans...I got some pretty weird looks from it..but I saved s shit ton of plastic and aluminum. I also recycle EVERY piece of paper I can...even the tiny scraps when I'm doing an art project. I will horde it all until I find some place to recycle it.

lastly...PLASTIC BAGS are the DEVIL. I NEVER get them when I go shopping..I'll either stuff it all in a backpack or struggle out to the car with it piled up in my arms.
Dec 23 2008 4:57PM
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Drail
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it's when the general public looks into where their "stuff" is coming from and uses that information to decide what to buy and what not to buy is when there will be real change.

the factory is run by the corporate world, yes. The way corporations are run is to make max profit for the company. The individuals running said company will not change their way unless forced. Politicians probably won't force a change. The company won't voluntarily change. We (the kids on a website, their family, friends, co-workers, etc) are the ones who have the power to force change.


As for what I've done. Other than the odd time (about 1 in 10) I don't use plastic bags anymore. I have stopped buying new clothes and accessories because they'd go with my new pants (if you know what I mean), even though I am lucky and receive free flights with Air Canada I have chosen to halt all unnecessary flying and am convincing others with the same privilege to do the same. I have never owned a car and most likely won't as long as that whole industry stays the same. Even when I do travel in a car it's always full of people, and it's because public transit wasn't possible and my destination was a must. I live in a tent 6 months out of the year (and I have planted aprox. 600 000 trees), I am currently trying to make the main street in my town idle free. I have switched to bio-degradable soap and shampoo (made in Canada) with bio-degradable plastic for the bottle. My ski wax is bio-degradable and non-carcinogenic. I don't own or use a sled, never will. I'm currently buying X-C gear so I can ski to the ski hill and not rely on a car to bring me. And I am constantly learning.
Dec 23 2008 4:57PM
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HenniferLopez
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sorry for dub-postin but also..use your own mug when you get coffee..I heard somewhere that americans use something like 25 billion disposable hot drink cups a year...ugh.
Dec 23 2008 4:59PM
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Drail
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you, i like. first you called me an asshole, and I was a little hurt, but i can take it. I probably was a bit of an asshole there. But then you wrote another post of good stuff. perhaps try to find a way to contact employee's of Microsoft and mention to them your plans, get a hold of a Microsoft e-letter to customers and let them know what's going on. Laws or no laws, if the people talk loud enough, they will listen. I think all the laws right now are all minimums aren't they? Like for the oil sands in Alberta, the govt state that they have to leave x amount of forest intact. The oil industry wouldn't mind leaving more than they are legally obligated to, but since the law doesn't force them to, they cut all but the minimum they have to leave behind. If the oil companies were people that wouldn't make any sense at all... but the company isn't a person, it has no morals... it must make as much profit as possible as fast as possible to make the share holders happy.
Dec 23 2008 5:05PM
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Drail
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this isn't necessarily about global warming. As I said originally, I don't think a lot of people really get what's going on. Say global warming is a myth (I mean, has the earth actually warmed up at all? I doubt it) and the global ecosystem stays the same. None of that matters. The issue is our resources. When the industrial revolution happened 100 years ago, the model was based on infinite expansion. We now know today that that system just won't work. There is a limited amount of oil and fossil fuels, we can only dam our rivers to a certain point, our forests only grow at a certain speed. The signs are everywhere that the way our society is living right now can not last. My question to you is: why would you continue living in a way that is destructive when you have options right in front of you that are healthy?
Dec 23 2008 5:14PM
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jca
Posts: 4172 - Karma: 6,310

darryl is a dirty, smelly hippy.

i recycle, walk everywhere (except the ski hill), every summer i help a family friend assemble his dam which he uses to make electricity, my family probably has only gotten 10 new plastic bags in the past year (all the other ones we reuse or give to this hick who weaves them into stuff), wear cothes made from organic cotton, hemp, bamboo etc.

Dec 23 2008 10:27PM
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BigJew
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I drive a car that gets 12mpg, I rarely recycle, I leave all the lights on in my house, have hour long showers, cut open batteries and throw them in wetlands, leave the TV and 4 computers on all the time, pour my old motor oil into a lake, vote conservative, and like starting forest fires.
Dec 23 2008 10:34PM
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fujarome
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hahaha, i was waiting for someone to do that.

myself, i recycle as much as i can, i drive the most efficient car i can afford, and try to minimize useless waste as much as i can. I won't lie, i don't do a whole much, but regardless of what you think of me for it...i don't care
Dec 23 2008 10:45PM
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Scott~~~~~~~~~~
Posts: 26 - Karma: 10
Nothing, I just talk lots of shit about it on the internet and hide my ridiculous hypocrisy behind the computer. Its awesome. Everyone can think im eco-friendly, but really, im just a wasteful slob~
Dec 23 2008 10:47PM
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