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Props to Dew Tour Skiers for showing we've progressed passed snowboarding

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krink
Posts: 211 - Karma: 29
I just want to give all the props in the world for all the skiers that threw down in halfpipe and especially slopestyle for seriously upstaging the snowboarders and showing how redundant competition snowboarding is getting.

just watch the top runs from both categories and it's really clear that the snowboarders 1. pretty much ignore putting any effort into the rails 2. total spin to win contest (little to no inverts) 3. the only way to compare snowboard runs it by adding up rotations and counting the seconds held on grabs.

snowboarding for these kind of comps has just gotten so homogenized and everything fucking looks the same. skiing is still young in this major competition world so all the athletes have much more unique style. anyways, i'm done, but can't wait for the rest of the dew tour to unfold, definitely a great start to the major competition season.
Dec 22 2008 2:36PM
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BrownEyeIn
Posts: 878 - Karma: 457
suck my balls tride!
Dec 23 2008 10:42AM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
good one buddy
Dec 23 2008 10:46AM
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JTK
Posts: 1695 - Karma: 73
lol the thread title perhaps.

i think the conditions changed the game a little bit for judging, and run selection as a result.  Bobby brown seems to have made a pretty good choice to go bigger on his second run.  might not work next time.
Dec 23 2008 10:46AM
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ski-plastic
Posts: 311 - Karma: 64
PK does have a fair point here... All props for Bobby (not the best known before the comp) for throwin 2 doubles but you do kinda have to make an effort to grab them up. Dont get me wrong now... Id give my left nut to be as good as Bobby but theres a big difference between throwin somethin and stickin a grab on it. Throwin it says "i can do this", grabbin it up at the same time says "im fuckin good at this".

Im not sure if this is a good way to compare it but here we have 2 different rodeo 5s:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fqe2aHnGG6E&feature=relatedhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fqe2aHnGG6E&feature=related

http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/2850rodeo540me!!.wmv
http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/2850rodeo540me!!.wmv



Dec 23 2008 10:55AM
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ski-plastic
Posts: 311 - Karma: 64
Sorry I suck at embeddin stuff
copy and paste job I guess..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fqe2aHnGG6E&feature=related

http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/2850rodeo540me!!.wmv
Dec 23 2008 10:57AM
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Ski..4..Life
Posts: 1347 - Karma: 97
it just comes down to the fact that skiing has style, why snowboarding does not.

we have so many varieties we can do with out skis which makes it look so much better while snowboarding only really has 4 options really while we keep coming up with new and interesting tricks. ala. octograb. there is no way you can do that on a snowboard.

anything you can do on a snowboard, you can do on skis.

anything you can do on skis, you cant necessarily do on a snowboards
Dec 23 2008 11:54AM
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YT.SKEEZE
Posts: 609 - Karma: 17
Skiers have much more creative opportunity however I dont think that is the case on rails...Snowboards have alot more options with presses and what not.
Dec 23 2008 12:07PM
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123ski
Posts: 7374 - Karma: 1,415
That is not true at all. 

I would like to see a skier do a true 50-50 nose press on a double kink rail. 

Or how about a crooked press (blunt) on an urban rail.

Or how about Michael Jackson slide?

Snowboarders can also generally Ollie higher than skiers.

Snowboarders can also do a roast beef

I am not saying skiers are better than snowboarders (although I do think that..hehe) And I am not saying the opposite... they are different sports
Dec 23 2008 12:09PM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
yeah pk for saying what ive been thinking. bobbys run should have been 2nd or 3rd not first
Dec 23 2008 12:13PM
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chewy15
Posts: 674 - Karma: 60
stop comparing the two. both sports are amazing
Dec 23 2008 12:15PM
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Ski..4..Life
Posts: 1347 - Karma: 97
Fine.

They surpass us on rails. We Surpass them on jumps.
Dec 23 2008 12:37PM
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rossiskier93
Posts: 781 - Karma: 103
alright dude so you are saying that possibly the best kang flip ever done doesnt look as good as a switch misty 10.. ok chief
Dec 23 2008 7:15PM
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TKMB
Posts: 1408 - Karma: 10
if the dew tour showed me anything, it's that 99% have busted ass style. kids saying you shouldn't have to grab... no fucking shit. but it's a whole nother story if you try to grab and miss, grab in the wrong place(tindy/ toxic), knee grab, or a if you grab looks shitty, or if you do a stupid grab like an octo or a two handed mute or somethin, that shit is unacceptable and needs to stop. all you steezless riders are fucking lucky that you are the majority.
Dec 23 2008 7:58PM
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Scott~
Posts: 2551 - Karma: 49
Octo grabs are stupid and unacceptable? I guess you just killed any chance of taking you seriously right there~
Dec 23 2008 8:29PM
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james44
Posts: 3323 - Karma: 578
i didnt read the thread but thats it thats all is the most progressive movie ever soo.. we are not ahead
Dec 23 2008 8:48PM
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S.Anderson
Posts: 369 - Karma: 18
skiers are getting really innovative and coming up with so many newschool tricks but snowboarding is still plain, there is so much more options and you can put so much style into your tricks when you ski instead of board
Dec 23 2008 8:52PM
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FUUUCK
Posts: 18426 - Karma: 4,888
ummm what?
Dec 23 2008 8:58PM
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broskijib
Posts: 105 - Karma: 10

well said

Dec 23 2008 9:07PM
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Scott~
Posts: 2551 - Karma: 49
You heard it on NS first, PK dropped all of his sponsors so he could enter superunknown, his entry consisted of one double cork 12 and berman already gave him the win~
Dec 23 2008 9:09PM
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Happy.
Posts: 1248 - Karma: 9
I fucked that up, meant to say he won KoS.. why i put superunknown, i have no idea, i was typing fast and not thinking
Dec 24 2008 12:46PM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,142
I posted pretty much the same thing in the comments actually.

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Really PK?

Really?

Are there now rules for slopestyle comps, where your run must include certain things, and other things categorically exclude you from podium position? How about we just give up and turn this into aerials part deux, now with rail tricks. No-grab tricks mean only one thing: you may have just foregone an opportunity to add something that could've made your trick more interesting and technical. They do not mean, all of a sudden, that what you just did sucked. That's been true since Tanner's 3 in 1242, at least, if not before. This isn't to say the judges didn't get it wrong, it's almost always arguable that they did. But saying "this is what you need to do in a skiing comp to win" is far more unacceptable than a no-grab double. You would've done better to say he should've lost points because it was hucked. Moreover, many of us are pretty sick of sw10-to-win by now... that was 2004, this is not. Not to hate on Jossi's run at all, just pointing out that you can find fault with what either of them did and the outcome is going to vary with even the most informed viewer.

This blog entry was the freeskiing equivalent of "he bent his knees on that dspin, that's going to cost him a few points for sure."
Dec 24 2008 4:28PM
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Joshua.
Posts: 2957 - Karma: 6,230
fuck ya'll bobby brown KILLED IT!!!

back to back doubles.... sw 10 jap VS double rodeo. dont make me laugh
Dec 24 2008 4:31PM
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ride-rider
Posts: 1761 - Karma: 20
i snowboard, I think skiing looks more steezy than snowboarding.  But snowboarding is fun and so is skiing, so frankly I dont give a shit.
Dec 24 2008 5:41PM
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smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,375
AND THANKS TO "THATS IT THATS ALL" FOR PROVING YOU ARE RETARDED AND SKIING IS NOWHERE NEAR SNOWBOARDING
Dec 24 2008 5:51PM
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MatRich
Posts: 4789 - Karma: 1,812
no... thanks for them proving theres less money in the ski industry than in the snowboard industry
Dec 24 2008 6:14PM
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smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,375
oh  yea because its money that makes snowboarder go twice as big with 3 times more steeze doing 4 times more creative shit.
Dec 24 2008 6:20PM
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jeremy.g
Posts: 4931 - Karma: 459
this thread has many valid points but its a total bitchfest.
Dec 24 2008 6:32PM
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krink
Posts: 211 - Karma: 29
i specified about 75 posts ago i was only talking about the competition scene, and really meant that i found the skiing much more entertaining to watch and most of the snowboarding was a LOT of stock runs. i thought thats it thats all was the shit and both sports (video wise) have some really great creative stuff coming out, snowboarding has just reached a level where some athletes loose their uniqueness from riding the competition circuit for so long.
Dec 24 2008 6:46PM
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rossiskier93
Posts: 781 - Karma: 103
alright the only sorta correct point in that rant is that snowboarders are more creative.  twice as big with 3 times more steeze....... not sure about that
Dec 25 2008 12:22AM
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jib_danboy
Posts: 261 - Karma: 26
hmm i liked pk before i saw that thing on his blog! still a sick skier though!!
Dec 25 2008 10:24AM
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caucasian_chad
Posts: 4078 - Karma: 3,625
Disagreed.  We don't want slope to become FIS moguls, with 99999999999999999999 rules and no creativity allowed.
Dec 25 2008 11:44AM
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mattwalker
Posts: 5063 - Karma: 2,478

mikkel bang's 2nd place run in dew tour was the dopest run thrown on the course by either a skier or snowboarder.

Dec 25 2008 3:44PM
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ry.will
Posts: 3225 - Karma: 47
agreed. im pretty sure he slept through his run.
Dec 25 2008 3:52PM
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