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Has there ever been a ski you just completely hated?

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yeahitsdave
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I've owned/own a lot of skis, demo'ed a tone more, and groped, fondled and stroked as many as possible, and there have been very few I hated. Most of them havent been twins (fuck salomon streetracers, forever) but i was wondering how everyone else's experiences have been.

The only twins i've skied that i really havent like at all were salomon lords. i just thought they were dead, squierrelly, unstable, and i just wasnt happy on them at all. other people completely contrasted my view, at the same demo, they just really werent for me. demo bindings probably really didnt help their cause.
Nov 17 2008 8:51PM
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fragglemuffin
Posts: 3312 - Karma: 444
i absolutely hate the atomic urban triplets..IMO there is nothing good about those skis.
Nov 17 2008 8:57PM
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matt.rad
Posts: 1813 - Karma: 303
K2 Public Enemy's. I'm sure a lot will disagree with me on this one, but there was absolutely nothing that made that ski worthy of being skied. It was heavy, dead, and honestly made skiing less fun when I tried them. Anyone else agree?
Nov 17 2008 9:03PM
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Style+eeze
Posts: 6901 - Karma: 551
nope
Nov 17 2008 9:04PM
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tnk*
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ar6, not quiet sure why tho, i never got use to them
Nov 17 2008 9:07PM
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phishfood
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i feel like the lords are salomons way to market rockered technology to weekend warriors. they've got subtle graphics, really small tails...idk i think the gun is salomons more jib oriented ski and its foam core and essentially 10 years old. and i haven't skied too many skis, but i skied guns and didn't like them very much. they seemed super chattery..but to be fair it was pretty icy when i skied them.
Nov 17 2008 9:07PM
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Tucks
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The K2 kung fujas, didn't really like them, too floppy
Nov 17 2008 9:23PM
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Jeff_QC
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Totally agree, they were my first pair of twins so I thought that they were alright, but compared to other skis that I have tried, they are just lifeless Pieces of Wood/fiberglass. Way too stiff and heavy...
Nov 17 2008 9:30PM
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95959
Posts: 2765 - Karma: 377
agree 100 percent. P.E.'s just arent any fun to ski.
Nov 17 2008 9:48PM
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T_orageskiier
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deffinetly k2 public enemy's all i can say about them is they were complete tanks
Nov 17 2008 9:49PM
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no_steeze
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i absolutely detest k2 juvy's, i used them when i was like 11 and fucking hated them, also k2 pe's and k2 race stock skis...i guess i just hate k2 (bents and seth's aside)
Nov 17 2008 10:15PM
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MayorWest
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truth! those were my first pair of twins! there hardly even twins wayyyy to soft i ended up sanding off the top sheet and putting on a custom on and sold em to my friends sister
she loves em though
Nov 17 2008 10:51PM
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Dr.Rick_Marshall
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shoot i love my pes and ive skiied pretty much everthing else but to each his own if i there was one ski i absoulutly hated it is the older scott p3 worst fucking ski around 
Nov 17 2008 11:27PM
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Calb3rt
Posts: 6005 - Karma: 2,203
scratches, bleh!
Nov 17 2008 11:28PM
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mBall
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totally agree with you. Iv only felt them and i hate em. soooo stiff and heavy.

But iv always hated elans and always loved armadas

Nov 17 2008 11:30PM
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yeahitsdave
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theres like 2000000 different scratches by now, which ones?
Nov 17 2008 11:38PM
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fLyInG-liNeS
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volkl misfits, i demoed them and the rep was all talking how good the were in pow, when they suck
Nov 17 2008 11:40PM
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Ben.
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volkl bridges. basically like strapping a pair of 2 bi 4s to your feet.
Nov 17 2008 11:45PM
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regge
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WTF!!!!
Nov 17 2008 11:57PM
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BigJew
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Salomon Foils.

Yuck, they chattered like hell and felt like pieces of poop.
Nov 18 2008 12:18AM
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Ben.
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hahaha its funny how people can love or hate skis. i LOVE my foils
Nov 18 2008 12:31AM
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special_k10101
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i didn't really like those old scratch fs's with the caution tape.  kinda soft and noodly, and didn't really hold an edge too well.  but i admit that that was a couple years ago when i skied them.  i always thought my PEs were too heavy too.  i think i had 04-05s with a carbon core or something.  bombproof, and charged well, but stiff and heavy.

Nov 18 2008 12:40AM
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Kevski
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Yeah. Even my invaders are more fun to ski steeps, trees and drops with. Especially groomers. And invaders aren't even an all mountain ski.
Nov 18 2008 1:17AM
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Casey
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My theory on this is that, the only skis that ive been on that I didn't like were skis that weren't meant for me. Either too short, too soft whatever, (most) ski companies can't afford to be in the business of putting out shitty products, you just have to find the right match for you.
Nov 18 2008 1:37AM
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Ben.
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Precisely. See above. that kid despised the foils, i love em. im so upset they have been discontinued..
Nov 18 2008 1:41AM
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ryanwar6
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Volkl Chopsticks. Check my review in my sig.
Nov 18 2008 2:40AM
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Horizon
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On a ski trip my regular pair of skis got a major core shot so I had to ski on an extra pair of k2s that my friend's dad brought  I don't remember exactly which ones they were, but they were apart of the Apache line up.  I absolutely hated the things.  Talk about an overweight pos.  It had a HUGE metal spine down the center that bubbled up and looked retarded.  The dang things felt like I was skiing on a pair of semi trucks.  Worst time ever.  Then he tells me they were the women's version, and I was just wondering what type of amazon woman would even think about buying them.
Nov 18 2008 3:22AM
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AJizzle
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Their dope for a big guy, retartedly stiff if u don't weigh 185+
Nov 18 2008 4:08AM
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Silence
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oath.
Nov 18 2008 5:15AM
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grams.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.

Agreed.
Nov 18 2008 7:31AM
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Twig
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Agreed! Unresponsive, heavy, sucked the fun out of skiing. Also didn't like anthems much.. they killed it in the park but i found them squirelly/flappy and unpredictable on piste.. and no fun in powder..
Nov 18 2008 7:58AM
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Simmo
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I found them lacking any pop and too heavy to enjoy in the park.

Could never work out why so many people ski'd them at one point, maybe just the cool graphics.
Nov 18 2008 10:34AM
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Moses
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i dislike them for a different reson, they just fell stiff, dead, and make you work too hard
Nov 18 2008 12:18PM
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bibs_skibum
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the origional k2 enemy.  Fucking terrible skis, so bad that i wont even use them for rock skis
Nov 18 2008 12:43PM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
Public Enemy, Sumo, Suspect, Lord, Kung Fujas, Recon, Elan MO2.2, Movement Yaka Jam/Spark, Disorderly, probably others I'm forgetting.
Nov 18 2008 12:49PM
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SnowJumperAK
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This thread is awesome BTW.....

Hated- well, i cant say ive ever met a ski i completly hated, but i didnt like the PE's a whole lot, they did charge hard though, i really didnt like the prophets and still dont, they felt like some balsa wood on my feet.

Loved- The original Ak Enemy from K2, the maiden AK, the pocket rocket (still think this is one of the best skis ever made, and i did like my foils, the were fun to play on, not real fast, a little soft and durability sucked, but you could get them cheap.

Isnt the Lord basically a Foil with a wood core and an extra soft tip? I thought about getting a pair, i just wished they would of added about 10mm to the waist. The tails are turned up more than enough i feel to do anything you need to. The seem like they will be some pretty BA skis. with everyone going 95+ in the waist now it makes me want to get something wide. feels like the new "midfat" skis are 95-110mm now. anyways, keep this thread going, i love it.

Nov 18 2008 2:30PM
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masta_LE3B
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surprisingly enough i couldnt stand the 4frnt 09 stl's or the 05 stl's or the 05 rossi scratch jr.

09 stl was to stiff and didnt have a good agressive carve at all, wasnt to jibby and felt kind of dead and they were a little to diretional for me

05 stl's were wayyyy to soft for a single ski person there crzy fun if you have another pair of skis to use for anything but buttering and spinning crazy fast on small jumps, cause they cant land there way to soft

05 rossi scratchs jr. there way to stiff for a jr ski, i hated them when i was little, maybe if i was a more aggresive skier when i was little but stil way stiff not good for anything but charging through crud when your little, but iv used the latly even though there 35cm to short for me and i liked them quite abit since there so stiff but short and jibby
Nov 18 2008 4:24PM
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N_well23
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Nov 18 2008 4:38PM
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N_well23
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reasons?? what didnt you like about the suspects?
Nov 18 2008 4:39PM
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b-kul
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pe's were my first proper twin tip so i cant really compare. stoked to get some rossi scream in's though.
Nov 18 2008 4:40PM
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LC.
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Most of those mentioned are just nothing special and over-hyped. The Sumo just skied horribly even in soft snow, MO2.2 has a ridiculously soft nose, the Movements had pretty much no grip.

The Suspects skied horribly, they wouldn't turn at all. K2 Crossfire skied switch better than them. The demo pair might have just been really badly tuned though , I need to try them again sometime.
Nov 18 2008 5:45PM
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RussellK141
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Aww! PE's are getting so much hate in this thread. Its true, they are stiff and heavy, but they are INDESTRUCTABLE! I've got the originals, 03-04, theyre my urban skis now, and probably will be for years to come. Skied them hard for 3 seasons, skied down piles of gravel, dirt, sand, ridden/walked them over concrete, broken glass, slid tons of rails on them, skied them over grass being pulled by an ATV, skied them into a lake in the summer, left them sit outside for about 3 weeks over the summer. all that's happened to them is one heel-piece pulled out, some discoloration on the topsheet (the sun turned them light yellow), dulled edges, a scartched base, and a few edge cracks. they don't break!

Nov 18 2008 7:14PM
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hellomynameisjef
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fuck no
fuck no
its heavy, but it sure as fuck is not dead, it rips all mountain and is dece in the park but seriously, great ski
Nov 18 2008 7:22PM
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AJizzle
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why would you ski the K2 crossfire?
Nov 18 2008 7:24PM
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2244
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aww i hate to see the PEs get so much hate on this thread. kinsidering probably more than half of NS has owned or ridden the PEs. I personally loved my PEs, but i guess theres a reason so many people didnt like them. Anyways my least favorite skis were, hands down, my 05 scott P3s. the worst ski in the history of skis. heavy, terrible graphics, delamed the first week i had them, absolutley terrible. the reason i will never by scott skis again.  
Nov 18 2008 7:51PM
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silex
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the pe because theyre soo stiff and soo heavy. when it came out they said that it would be a good park ski but i think thats impossible for how stiif it is. you cant call a ski that stiff a park ski epspecially when its almost impossible to do butters and presses. im glad they finally decided to get rid of that ski this year




 

Nov 18 2008 8:10PM
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Bigwoods
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Rossignol Scratch FS.. With the tape across the top
Nov 18 2008 9:26PM
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Jballz
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rossi scratch fs from 4 years ago. i call mine the chunda dawgs
Nov 18 2008 10:22PM
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Malcolm
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firefly skis. lol
Nov 18 2008 10:24PM
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inactive
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'06 Big troubles

the edges disolved underthem
Nov 18 2008 10:26PM
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DangerToes
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honestly, every salomon ski I've ever been on. I don't like them because they drive themselves and are super easy to overpower. They ski how they're meant to ski, regardless of how you want them to ski.
Nov 19 2008 10:16AM
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