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How do you decide whether you like filming or skiing more?

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B.Snow
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So I'm 18 and I have been skiing since I was like 4 and freestylin it since I was like 10 or 11 I guess. Over the past few years my interests have grown in filming and I am really interested in filming edits. The thing is, I can't ever really decide wether I want to ski or film, hit the handrail or film the handrail. And because of this my edits always suck and I never really get max potential of my hits on a rail, jump or whatever we're filming. I'm thinking that filming is quite an investment, but not only financially but in terms of time and effort, and for this reason I'm having trouble fully committing to it.

What do you guys think?

Any serious comments or stories that relate are welcome.
Oct 28 2008 10:11PM
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Dan-Man
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talk to DrewLederer aka the FatMan. I think he'll be able to help you out.
Oct 28 2008 10:15PM
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BigZero
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Do both, bryan,  but you don't have to necessarily do them at the same time. I've been living like a skibum for the last 2 seasons, but in a year or so i'm going to the melhoppiem film school in mtl, to see where it takes me.
Oct 28 2008 10:17PM
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neon1peace
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well i dont have any expirience in the field cuz im bad at filming and love to ski, but id say you should take a season and devote it to mostly filming, and if that doesnt work than you have the rest of your life to fall back on skiing

and if you like filming better you have a cool job!
Oct 28 2008 10:17PM
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KAS
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I am sorta in the same situation. I like to film and I want to see If that is what I want to do for a career...or whatever, but I feel like I won't film so much this winter, because I want to get better at skiing park, which I basically just started, but I have been skiing for about 12 or 13 years.

 I have been thinking that about once every weekend or every other weekend I will bring the camera out on the slopes and film for a few hours and really "get the shot" as much as I can and sort of forget about hitting the features. Or get everyone that I am skiing with and get them to cooperate for a while so It will be easier.
Oct 28 2008 10:17PM
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DavidStewart
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Yeah dude I actually completely understand... though each year I've been dedicating myself more and more towards production and it seems to be paying off. Plus I realized I never would make it as a big time skier and that I wanted to eventually work in the field of production so it kinda makes more sense for me to pull towards that. I still really love skiing though.. but I definitely find the time to make both happen.
Oct 28 2008 10:18PM
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CoachG
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Here's what i do which might be a good solution for you. Take your camera to the hill. leave it in the car. Hit up the park and throw down what you think will look good on film. Then take a friend, and just lap the park taking turns filming eachother.
Oct 28 2008 10:21PM
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Grape_Drank
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dude u should do both but film more
Oct 28 2008 10:23PM
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Jamie_Baril
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i like filming, but am not particularly gifted at it, so my choice is made for me
Oct 28 2008 10:25PM
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gkenworthy
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It's a tough call, and I know the feeling...  Obviously I love skiing, and it's my favorite thing to do... However, I definitely enjoy scoping out dope spots to film from, and when I'm hurt I like filming friends. I took a film class last year at school, and I really really liked it.  When I am filming I am having fun, but watching my friends hit the features and throw down, I always just wish I was skiing, and although I love filming and editing and stuff I never really wish I was filming when I am being filmed... It's a tough call, but no one is saying you can't do both. Stick to your guns and play both fields, maybe don't try and do them on the same night, but pick one to do at a time...  If you really have to make a decision then go with your gut instinct.  Which ever you have more fun doing, you could always just do one for fun, and try to pursue the other. 
Oct 28 2008 10:34PM
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[~_~]
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Who is making you decide? Why not do both?
Oct 28 2008 10:39PM
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B.Snow
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I might very well join you Button, unless I go to a film school after this semester
Oct 28 2008 10:44PM
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spliff.Life
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i am in the same position sort of


but i think overall you have more fun skiing

the gratification for filming and producing and edit is good, but not as good as stomping a perfect trick
Oct 28 2008 10:45PM
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FUUUCK
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You can never do both as well as you possibly can, just decide which one brings you the most joy. And if you choose filming more, you can still ski. If you want to ski more you can still put out an edit every now and then.
Oct 28 2008 10:47PM
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B.Snow
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Well this is kind of what I'm doing now and it makes for shitty footy. I dunno it just looks way un-professonal.
Oct 28 2008 10:47PM
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.jr
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Everyone here keeps saying do both and I agree that you should but my photography teacher always told us as I went out on a project that I was there to do one thing.. I could go to shoot or I could go to ski/hike/whatever.. You can go to do both but both will suffer some. Your best bet is to ski on the crappier looking days and to film on the nice days.. You may not get to enjoy the sunny powder days as much as you would like but you can ski to your content on the off days and film to your content on the sunny days..
Oct 29 2008 12:07AM
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[~_~]
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fuck your teacher, he isn't a God. Do what you want son!
Oct 29 2008 12:29AM
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Tortao
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ski if you want to ski, film if you want to film
Oct 29 2008 12:31AM
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.jr
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no he wasnt telling me I couldnt do something.. he was just saying that if I go to ski and shoot.. both would lack
Oct 29 2008 12:33AM
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16candles
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if you really enjoy them both the do a different one each day you ride so you stay consistent
Oct 29 2008 12:35AM
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Flarestrike
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weeeelllll you could do a bit of both...hit the jumps switch while filming the rider coming over the jump behind you, give some cool aerial shots..or invest in a headcam, tehn you can ski and film at the same time haha
Oct 29 2008 1:41AM
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skodeo7
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If you really truly are passionate about videography, you won't have to question this. Give it some thought.
Oct 29 2008 9:50AM
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A.R.
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find someone else at your mountian in the same situation, and then you can trade up 50/50.

problem solved

Oct 29 2008 10:30AM
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B.Snow
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pretty good Idea
Oct 29 2008 8:04PM
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T-Holt
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Get a small crew together and film with them, that way you get to ski and film and chill with friends at the same time.
Oct 29 2008 8:08PM
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B.Snow
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dunno I we've tried that and my friends are assholes about it... they never want to film
Oct 29 2008 8:13PM
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T-Holt
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That sucks man, but as long as you're still having fun.
Oct 29 2008 8:15PM
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B.Snow
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werd.
Oct 29 2008 8:23PM
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[~_~]
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This reminds me of an old saying:

Pictures are reminders of how much fun we could be having if we weren't too busy taking pictures.

What you need to ask yourself is Does the art of cinematography, and all forms of inspiration and memories that come from it, surpass the joy of skiing?

In my personal experience, I have found that the answer is entirely dependant on set and setting. Part of the challenge is deciding whether to grab my DVX or my poles on the way out the door...


But then again, you could try and work out a schedule that lets you do both. For example, at summer camp a few years ago, I did some skiing and some filming. From my filmer's eye, the set was too beautiful to pass up. I had to film. The end result was my Big Easy Part III edit, which to this day is my favorite out of anything I've ever made.
Oct 29 2008 9:17PM
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