the problem with your opinion is that its completely wrong.
driving from downtown to the base of grouse is the exact same as the base of seymour. hitchin takes the same amount of time as the gondola up. so why not get your ride to seymour. so may as well go to seymour and hope your parents take you the extra 7 minutes and drive u up seymour.
now lets not consider the parents.
bus to grouse, if your downtown im assuming your takin the seabus but fuck, it really doesn't matter how u get there. it takes, 40minutes to get to grouse.
bussing to the bottom of seymour takes the same from downtown. cool. go to seymour
wait u really like the seabus and want to waste your time with it, then bus from there, slower. but they figured it all out. take the seymour shuttle bus the the sea bus and your at the top of the mtn.
bottom line. grouse really isn't much closer than seymour. your just a pussy who is afraid of using your thumb to get a ride instead of mom droppin you at the bottom and takin that gondola up and waiting in lift lines. enjoy grouse.. nort