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Presidential Assassination !?!?!?!

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Rainbow*Stylin
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not trying to be a dick, but on the reals... if Obama wins(which i hope) how long do you think he has until some bigot kills him? i am pretty confident that neither of our presidential candidates will survive their first term.... The thought of Palin leading our country makes me want to cry a lot and vomit a lot more
Oct 22 2008 2:53AM
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yellav
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or know what worker in the white house, army trained sniper, or secret service agent was raised under racist views.
Oct 22 2008 3:59PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Ya well out of the billions of people in the world, how come nobody has killed a president in a long time?
Oct 22 2008 4:35PM
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860
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just because you experience a lot of stress doesn't mean you can handle it better. It just means that you have 5 years more stress, which could take off I dunno 10 years of your life? Stress is bad in all forms, it hurts your body. Look at a picture of any president before there term(s) tell me how McCain will look in a coffin afterwords...
Oct 22 2008 4:41PM
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Bob_Gnarley
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Oct 22 2008 4:47PM
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soulskier
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well, if hes elected he'll be alive longer than mccain will be
Oct 22 2008 4:50PM
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FUUUCK
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your math is off, thats life expectancy at birth.

average life expectancy of those 70-79 is 85.6 years
Oct 22 2008 4:54PM
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sick-as-aids
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you americans are crazy. we are having elections soon to, if our current prime minister wins itd be nice if she was shot, but itl never happen
Oct 22 2008 4:56PM
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An10a_Eng
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the thought that people actually think barak obama or joe biden would do this nation any good makes me sick to my stomach
Oct 23 2008 3:03AM
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JQ89
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wow hes a young buck... lawl
Oct 23 2008 3:16AM
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J.D.
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It is an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much - the wheel, New York, wars and so on - whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - for precisely the same reasons.

Curiously enough, the dolphins had long known of the impending destruction of the planet Earth and had made many attempts to alert mankind of the danger; but most of their communications were misinterpreted as amusing attempts to punch footballs or whistle for tidbits, so they eventually gave up and left the Earth by their own means shortly before the Vogons arrived.

The last ever dolphin message, in fact, was misinterpreted as a surprisingly sophisticated attempt to do a double backwards somersault through a hoop while whistling The Star-Spangled Banner, but in fact the message was this: "So long, and thanks for all the fish."


Oct 23 2008 3:42AM
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XtRemE11
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id say the stupidity is about equal, cause really, half the people who hate bush hate him because other people do, if you asked half the people in this country why they hate bush, they would probably come up with some stupid answer or not know what to say. i know some smart as fuck bush supporters, who actually have good reasons to like him. while when i listen to people talking about why they hate bush, all they can come up with is " he messed up the country, he cant talk well, blah blah blah" mostly shit they heard on youtube.

and i have to give bush a break cause if you think about it, before he was ellected, the internet wasnt used by many like it is today. 8 years ago, i didnt know many people that would get online and check news sites and video's. now literally every citizen is on the internet once a day and they check all these news sites, and most of all youtube. really every little mistake he makes, is seen by millions of people right after it happens. before that, really, if you didnt see it on the right news channel at the right time, you didnt see it at all. there werent thousands of anti clinton video's on the internet. but now because of technology, we get to see every mistake he ever made.

im sure if we had the same technology for every president, we would hate every single one of them alot more.

i think now, whoever is president, we are gonna hate the shit out of them. a couple mistakes and they are fucked. its kinda sad.



Oct 23 2008 3:43AM
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ThaLorax
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that's such a good book.
Oct 23 2008 3:55AM
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PhaedeD
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lol ya it does... these people do NOT want a black or half black person running our country. I wouldnt say next to impossible there are many ways it could be very possible the impossible part is getting away with it or not killing yourself at the same time.
Oct 23 2008 9:25AM
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sconniestyle
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oh yes!  wonko the sane is one of my favorite literary characters of all time too.
Oct 23 2008 10:05AM
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k-rob
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truth.
Oct 23 2008 11:55AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Kennedy was pretty recent. Bhuto got assassinated over in Pakistan. If you really wanted to kill a world leader, you could. Dunno about getting away with it and not being found and charged though.
Oct 23 2008 12:42PM
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scratchproteen
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there is always a risk of assassination no matter who it is that is sitting in a high chair...yes alot of people hate bush...i am not racist at all if i was racist i could not live where i lived i'd get my ass kicked...but the fact that racism is still very much alive and very big in America puts Obama at a little bit of a risk, probably nothing huge because the security is so tight now days and way better...and it probably wouldn't be a young person that did it...i'm guessing it would be someone from back in the day...like my grandpas age (83 years old) and he is as racist of a person i have ever seen i get so embarrassed when i bring my girlfriend to christmas or thanksgiving and he goes off on a racist rant...blaming our economic problems on the "sammys" or the "blacks" ha well theres my two cents.
Oct 23 2008 12:48PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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that is so untrue. the longest kill ever by a sniper was 2430 meters by corporal furlong of canada. Most rifles these days are lucky to have an effective range of 1000m much less 1800! Moreover, the amount of training and adjustment for: windage, elevation, rotation of the earth, curvature of the earth, atmospheric density, the bullets rotational inertia must be computed to at least 3 or 4 decimal places. And thats if you have military equipment such as an m82a1 and that lil software for a PDA. Civilians simply cant get the same shit, they might be able to get a remmington m700 which would be the best available civilian rifle and it only has a range of 800 meters.

So within half a mile im pretty sure as extensive as secret service is, theyd be able to find some fuck in a window somewhere sitting with his remington 700 civilian with a nstar scope. These are formerly trained special forces who can find ghille suited prone military snipers lying in a massive field of vegetation. Spotting some dude holding a gun in a window wouldnt be very difficult.
Oct 23 2008 1:05PM
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k-rob
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dude, i think you misunderstood what guy was saying. he never said somebody could shoot well enough to hit a target at a mile and half, he said bullets were still effective at a mile and half. sorry to tell you, but you just wasted your time.
Oct 23 2008 1:10PM
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sconniestyle
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if an organization is good enough to get a sniper in a legitimate position to kill the president, don't you think they are good enough to get equipment higher than the "best avaialble civilian rifle?"

while it may be very difficult for you and me to get our hands on military special ops grade sniper gear, i am sure someone with enough resources to plan a legitimate attack would be able to get their hands on them, if not from our military, then from any one of dozens around the globe.

your points are very valid, if you assume the assassin is some regular dude with a racist vendetta, but the possiblity is still out there if you consider all the paramilitary units and private special forces in play worldwide.  im not saying john rambo is going to kill barak obama, but it isnt that far fetched to believe that there are organizations good enough, with the right intel and equipment, to take out any world leader or prominent citizen.

the secret service is good. great, actually, but it is do-able, just by a serious organization, not by a few meth heads with rifles, as i said earler.

Oct 23 2008 1:32PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Maybe I just like to think that the secret service and all that security would be enough, I dunno. Cause come to think about it maybe it wouldn't be impossibly hard, getting away with it sure would though.
Oct 23 2008 1:51PM
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BMB
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is that john McCain in four years?
Oct 23 2008 2:38PM
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PhaedeD
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ya then again you can purchase .50 cal sniper rifles now days with an effective range of over a mile.
Oct 23 2008 6:04PM
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dodgeridge*rider
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palin would kill obama then hang his head on the wall right next to a mouse
Oct 23 2008 6:13PM
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FMeissner
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Nobody ever thought that a bunch of people in the Middle East could fly planes into the World Trade Center towers...but it happened.

There's always a chance that something can happen.
Oct 23 2008 6:23PM
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skiminnesota
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o please, pre 9/11 i am pretty sure a blind man in a wheel chair could have pulled 9/11 off...
Oct 23 2008 6:40PM
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PhaedeD
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it was actually used by the japanese in WWII only on boats lol.
Oct 23 2008 7:25PM
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MC_POUTINE
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bhutto of pakistan was very recent
Oct 23 2008 7:33PM
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Dobies.
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My dads brother is in the national guard, and there actually training for race riots if something like this happened. Scary shit, but very possible. Damn
Oct 23 2008 7:39PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Fuck, I hope something super exciting happens when Obama wins and then some really dumb people get put in their place.
Oct 23 2008 7:49PM
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skiminnesota
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mark my words, mark my words.
Oct 23 2008 7:53PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I think he was referring to the economic crisis...
Oct 23 2008 8:29PM
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pmills
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or any of the other 27 crises we've got going on right now...
Oct 23 2008 8:41PM
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Mike34113
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it wont happen you see how long weve had bush in the office and nothing has happened to him
Oct 23 2008 8:57PM
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TheStamos
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If Obama is assassinated the black community along with a hell of a lot of people will go nuts.  Riots everywhere, a complete Collapse. thank about it, The LA riots were started because cops sucked back then but they also beat Rodney king. Cops havent gotten much nicer and well he possibly (hopefully) will be the first african american president , which is  great! but imagine what would happen if something happend to him . I hope the secret service is sharp . Also the govt. is corrupt and dont think it isnt for one second.
Oct 23 2008 9:07PM
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VT_scratch
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FAIL
Oct 23 2008 9:25PM
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yellav
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people hate bush because of the policies, corruptness, and just general chaos he has caused while in office. the people that would assassinate obama hate him because he's black. two completely different types of hate.
Oct 23 2008 10:06PM
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popNfresh44
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black president + southern white supremacist extremists = attempted assassination or a successful one ===> black riots

its possible
Oct 23 2008 10:17PM
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FMeissner
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Next time use a legit example when you're trying to argue with someone instead of looking like an idiot.
Oct 23 2008 10:18PM
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skiminnesota
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HAHAHA ok.

my point was the first 9/11 was easy to pull off compared to the same thing happening today..

how much have you flown? both pre 9/11 and after 9/11????
Oct 23 2008 10:31PM
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skiminnesota
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o and if you want reasons why 9/11 was easy to pull of compared to the same thing happening today, this is a conversation i am happy to have.   

point was, guy's with box cutters,BOX CUTTERS got into the cockpit, and flew airplanes into buildings, i dont see that happening exactly like that all over again....
Oct 23 2008 10:36PM
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FMeissner
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I fly on planes between 4 and 6 times a year.

And I agree with you that it would be highly unlikely that it would happen again the same way as it happened on 9/11, but the point of my original statement was that people should never say never (in this case, dealing with a possible presidential assassination).
Oct 23 2008 11:07PM
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