I am in dire need of Dr. NS!

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So basically I have a really fucked up shoulder. Over the past year and a month or so I've popped the sucker out completely about 15 times and it has just slipped out and in quickly over 50 times. I've been doing physiotherapy for it since Janurary to try to strengthen the muscles to keep it altogether without surgery but it has done nothing and it still pops out even when I'm swimming, throwing anything overhand and it has come out while jumping and reaching for a tail grab and stuff like that.

Right now my options are to have surgery in about 2 weeks (first week of November) or in April after im done skiing for the year. Now I know I can ski with this going on because I've popped it out so many times it doesn't hurt as much anymore unless its out for more that a couple minutes, but the surgeon says that the more times it comes out, the harder it is to fix and since I'm only 16, I would like to be able to do fun things for aslong as possible. The reasons I don't want the surgery right now are that recovery for it requires 6 weeks of immobilization in a sling, so I wont be able to ski until late December at the earliest and even then I will have no muscle in that arm/shoulder and my core will probably be pretty weak also. I compete in alot of freeskiing comps so when they roll around in Janurary I don't want to be weak and skiing without confidence.

also I was able to ski all last year and this summer in Whistler without much problems with it so taking that into accout, what are your opinions?

and anyone who has had this surgery before give me some more information?

thanks Dr.!

Oct 19 2008 9:03PM

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jca

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comon theres got to be someone who has an opinion!

Oct 19 2008 9:48PM

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Peter.

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i say just get surgery after ski season, just dont go insanely huge, and try and be easy on it

Oct 19 2008 9:53PM

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no_steeze

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sounds like you should get surgery after ski season if you want to do well in comps and not have a weak shoulder all season, especially if popping it back in isn't as painful anymore

just don't hook your shoulder in the snow off a backseat pow landing, that would suck

Oct 19 2008 9:56PM

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Phill.

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well how bad is it now, is any thing really tore up bad??? rotator cuff, ligaments???? if not i would take the surgery to save em but if you cant really save any thiing than go for the later date.... i had acl surgery in january and miss almost the whole season.... my acl was already tore so i should have put it off but i didnt soo...... i was still however able to ski with a tore acl.....

Oct 19 2008 10:00PM

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do you compete in any other sports? because if it were me i would get it fixed up now.... it would not be worth it to risk destroying my shoulder and not being able to throw a baseball, football, golf, hockey, ect..... gotta look at the big picture, i would want as healthy a body as possible for later in life.... o and this isnt coming from someone who has never been hurt, ive had my fair share of injury's, some more serious than others, but ones that if you dont fix right away, can fuck with your for the rest of your life.

IMO fix ur up now.....

Oct 19 2008 10:11PM

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that sucks man i broke mine early last season and was out for the whole season, and its still bugging me

try and take it easy so u dont wreck urself before this winter

Oct 19 2008 10:14PM

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jca

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Yeah thats what I'm thinking, the only thing is i dont want to push my recovery and wreck it again because all my friends are shredding pow and i have to chill inside and hear all about it, when i know i skied with it all fucked last year.

Oct 19 2008 10:18PM

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Jordan

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I have what you have bro. I know what you mean. My shoulder comes out probably once or twice a day... hella annoying. However, my collar bone also dislocates every time I lift my left arm. I do have a friend who had the surgery on his shoulder, he was out for a bit but not a vast amount of time. Now its good as new.

I don't want to get the surgery b/c of my collar bone. They'd have to cut out an inch of it, rebuild ligaments and there's important things like my heart behind it haha. Plus i couldn't lift my arm for 6 months and i'd be out of everything for a year or so.

But I mean, the shoulder thing isn't too bad my friend told me. They are just rebuilding ligaments etc...

Oct 19 2008 10:23PM

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not to jack the thread, but maybe this will give your some perspective of where i am coming from....

over the last winter i tore 6 disks in my back, i put it off, i toughed it out, i bit my lip, ect... i dealt with the pain... while baseball season rolls around, i try hitting a baseball, DAMMIT THIS HURTS. so now i am basically forced into getting it 100% checked out, get an MRI and wow, you have 6 torn disks, hmmmm....

they gave me 2 choices, play baseball, but if you get hit in the back, tweak something swinging,ect... you could really fuck up your back.... so i had to bench myself for baseball, do the rehab, and fix my back, now im going strong once again, golfing still hurts if i carry my bag, but otherwise i am rearing to go for ski season.....

its one of those things i could have played baseball, but it would have been at about half of my healthy potental, and would have put off total recovery....

Oct 19 2008 10:27PM

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I have an anterior dislocation from 20 years ago.. It would be so bad that when I rolled over in my sleep I would dislocate it again. This was before good orthoscopic surgeries. MRI shows chronic damage and only a 50 50 shot that the repair will take and only if I don't do something to rip it out again years after the suregery. I am older obviously..

If I were in your shoes, get it repaired in April pt hard and nurse and protect that wing next season. good luck

Oct 19 2008 10:33PM

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okay listen, i might have had the same thing (i had a liebrum tear) and mine was really bad i would sneeze and the sucker would pop out. that being said, you will be able to ski on it, but crashes suck way worse. get a shoulder brace and put that on everytime you go out skiing youll need it. If your getting bankhart surgery thats what i had, its way worse than a slap if thats what your getting good youll be rehabing for abut 3-4 months afterwards as opposed to the 8-9 months that im going through. Truthfully if you can live with the pain i would say go ski but after the surgery you WILL NOT be able to ski trust me. i was bedridden for a week and fucked up real good for another 4 months at least before i felt comfortbale enough to take my arm out of the sling if you have any specific questions feel free to PM me

Oct 19 2008 10:47PM

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i wouldn't put that shit off, rather 6 weeks in a sling than terrible nerve damage from fucking it up up mid winter

Oct 19 2008 10:55PM

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id get the surgery now, your shoulder is messed up really bad man putting even more stress on it will probably fuck it up for life if its not at that point already

Oct 19 2008 10:56PM

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get the surgery youd only be missing a mounth or so

Oct 19 2008 10:57PM

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when they say immobilized in a sling for 5 weeks that doesn't mean after 5 weeks youll be able to use your arm. hell and the end of 5 seeks you will barely be able to lift it and any sudden movement of your arm could rip out the sutures used to repair your arm. im not joking here you won't be able to do anything remotely athletic until atleast 2-3 months after surgery if everything goes well and you rehab hard.

My advice is to get a shoulder brace like the ones that you see football players wearing all the time and get the surgery at the end of the year.

Oct 19 2008 11:15PM

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i was in the same position as you, i dislocated my shoulder only twice though and immediately after the second dislocation i got the surgery, 6 weeks of no moving it and about another 4 before i had full range of motion. im in serious PT right now and doing great almost ready for the upcoming season.

my opinion GET THE SURGERY NOW!! it will be so much better in the long run. your only 16 you have so many more seasons ahead of you. don't fuck up your shoulder more by riding with it this season. the longer you wait the less successful the surgery is much more damage to surrounding ligaments and cartilage...just man up and get it done.

Oct 19 2008 11:19PM

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jason...

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last i heard dr ns is a black doctor, not sure if you want to trust that...

Oct 20 2008 1:18AM

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surgery dawg. you are gonna want to sell those vics too! good, easy $$. but in all seriousness, you need this surgery because if you can't fix it in a few years you will shit yourself wishing you did. you need your shoulder to do day to day shit.

Oct 20 2008 3:11AM

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I would get surgery before the season. It's not worth the long term damage that may occur. And you can always do core and lower body workouts to keep those areas as strong as possible for when you are ready to ski again.

Oct 20 2008 8:49AM

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