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PRO FORM??

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permanente1600
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you guys, i feel dumb, but what does it mean when you say 'pro form them' when you talk about buying skis. it sounds pretty sweet, only if i know what it was....


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Nov 6 2003 7:35PM
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chris_01
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if you work in the industry you get a discount
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Nov 6 2003 7:41PM
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permanente1600
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oh, well i dont work in the industry.... so much for that. any tips on how to get one of those jobs?


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Nov 6 2003 7:43PM
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linemaverick540
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ski instructor


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Nov 6 2003 7:45PM
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permanente1600
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ya, thats an idea


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Nov 6 2003 7:48PM
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permanente1600
Posts: 1368 - Karma: 10
what do you do, just tell the shop that you are an instructor (or whatever) and they will hook you up with a cheap price?


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Nov 6 2003 7:51PM
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aggro_sk8
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ok, proform is a 'form' for 'pros' (instructors, ski patrol, or other on ski mt. worksers). they allow you to get gear cheap, so you dont spend every penny you earn on gear for your job, you have to either know a rep, or be able to prove to a shop worker that you're an instructor, or patroler. which means either PSIA card or a call from your suppervisor
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Nov 6 2003 9:20PM
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permanente1600
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sweet


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Nov 6 2003 9:22PM
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MaryJane
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Or just find a ski shop to work at. It can even be a part time job. Last season I twisted dins and sent out rental equipment at a resort in Colorado. This season I'm selling gear in a shop in the flat lands. Both places I worked part time, and both places I could pro form stuff. Any company that particular shop stocks, you can order stuff proform.

So you don't necessarily have to be and instructor, or patrol... just find a ski shop to work at.

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Nov 6 2003 9:29PM
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west
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Really, you just need to know a couple people.




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Nov 6 2003 9:30PM
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west
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Really, you just need to know a couple people.




better to burn out...
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Nov 6 2003 9:30PM
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west
Posts: 5229 - Karma: 36
Really, you just need to know a couple people.




better to burn out...
...then fade away
Nov 6 2003 9:30PM
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west
Posts: 5229 - Karma: 36
Really, you just need to know a couple people.




better to burn out...
...then fade away
Nov 6 2003 9:30PM
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west
Posts: 5229 - Karma: 36
Really, you just need to know a couple people.




better to burn out...
...then fade away
Nov 6 2003 9:30PM
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west
Posts: 5229 - Karma: 36
Really, you just need to know a couple people.




better to burn out...
...then fade away
Nov 6 2003 9:30PM
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west
Posts: 5229 - Karma: 36
Really, you just need to know a couple people.




better to burn out...
...then fade away
Nov 6 2003 9:31PM
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west
Posts: 5229 - Karma: 36
Really, you just need to know a couple people.




better to burn out...
...then fade away
Nov 6 2003 9:31PM
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west
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fuck, sorry about that.




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Nov 6 2003 9:31PM
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Straightline
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West, man....

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Nov 6 2003 9:32PM
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permanente1600
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what shop do you work at, i live in colorado too


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Nov 6 2003 9:33PM
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permanente1600
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the only problem is that getting a job at a shop is soooooo hard. it seems like eveyone is already fully staffed


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Nov 6 2003 9:35PM
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SkeeOrDye
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gettn a job at a shop is tough, you gotta apply in the spring for the next year, or the day they open. instructing is an easy job to get usually.
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Nov 6 2003 9:50PM
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permanente1600
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ya, i applied for an instructor position at breckenridge, i dont think i'll get it though cuz im only 17 and they want 18 or over


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Nov 6 2003 9:52PM
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MaryJane
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They seemed to be pretty easy for me to get....I just walked in and applied. Last season, I got the job at the end of December and this season I applied in September. Both I got within 2 weeks of applying. You said you live in CO...I'm sure there are shops in denver, boulder, the springs (assuming you live on the easter side of the state)....or you could look for one in a resort town close to where you live.

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Nov 6 2003 10:03PM
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permanente1600
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ya, im in boulder, im thinking like boulder ski deals or christie sports or cutting edge. it would be sweet to get a job there


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Nov 6 2003 10:05PM
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joe_cool_ski
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if you work at a shop or something you can get things for cheep like the beast from nordica retail 549 pro form 199 it is a good deal a reason to work at a shop
Nov 6 2003 10:50PM
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manus
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shop form is cheaper than proform too.

Also, one of the reasons that the forms exist for on snow employees, is because there is obviously a requirement to be on snow a lot (I average over 100 days a year for the last 12 years) and equiptment breaks down. Also, a lot of ski areas require that if you are on snow and in a position where you deal with clients, you must be on relatively new equiptment (usually no more than a couple, 2 to 3 years old).
Nov 7 2003 9:45AM
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Justo8484
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yeha the beasts are cheap, and the boots are good, but the beast skis are a waste of wood
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Nov 7 2003 10:27AM
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vtrider
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^^listen to the wise manus, he knows his shit.

Generaly, most companys have 2 or 3 sets of 'forms' out. First would be your everyday run of the mill profrom. It gets you roughly 50% off Msrp on all product by that company. Proform is generly for on hill employees, such as ski partrol and ski school.

Next ya have whats called VIP form, which is simalar to profrom, just not quite as much discout, more along the lines of 30-40% off. This form is only used with some companys, and its givin out to people who are affiliated with the shop, IE clients that are good custys, friends, or just gernel people who help out from time to time. Pretty much all product is availible on these forms also.

And lastly, you have shop form, or Key employee form. Its for all us 'shopys' or techs who work in actual ski shops. Prices on these forms usally start at 60% off and can make it all the way up to 80% off, just depending on the company. Not all product is availible on shop form, usally just the top of the line models that are going to be best sellers for that particular company. Like with the beast for example, I got mine for under 170, a major savings off the $700 msrp.

So my advise? get a job in a shop, it allows me to buy skis throughout the year, and sell them to buy more skis. I own like 3 pairs of skis right now, sell them from time to time to be replaced by newer models. I break even, and whoever buys my skis for the most part is really happy, getting a ski thats been skid on for a month for less the half price anybody would be happy with.


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Nov 7 2003 11:21AM
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manus
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another way to get into the industry that's pretty easy (other than instruct, patrol and get a job at a shop) is to get a job in a rental shop.

It gets you exposure to key companies the shop deals with and you can still get discounts on other stuff, too (especially if the rental shop is specifically paired up with a ski area - i.e. area owned)
Nov 7 2003 12:11PM
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manus
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^good point and that is the same reasoning behind pro-form for instructor's and patroler's (but mainly instructor's). The customers/clientel see us on the equiptment, and we are inadvertently advertising their products to our customers/clientel.

I couldn't even begin to count the amount of times I have been asked what equiptment a student should get/might consider, or what shops they should go to.

A lot of shops will also give discounts to instructor's because a lot of customers (students) look for where to shop, and ask the instructor's. Personally, over the years, I've probably sent at least $100,000+ worth of business to one of the shops by me.
Nov 7 2003 12:34PM
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TimmyP
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instructors get proforms i got my v-pros($645) for 350 on the pro form
what the fuck there is no fucking snow in buffalo i am pissed off
Nov 7 2003 12:40PM
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permanente1600
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you guys, all of this sounds awsome, im gonna go out and try to get a job at my local shop now. any suggestions on how to get the job. normal applications sometimes dont work too well.


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Nov 7 2003 3:11PM
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manus
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shoot the shit with the people there, get to know them a little and prove to them that you know your shit. Then apply.

If you don't really know that much and are just trying to get the job for the benefits, come up with a reason that hiring you would benefit them.

If all else fails, beg, plead and grovel.
Nov 7 2003 3:15PM
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permanente1600
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nice plan. im gonna go in today, ask to talk to the manager,then be all buddy buddy and tell him that im looking for a job and that i thought his store would be the best place to start because i know that it is a good store (you know, kinda flatter him/ her) then ask for an app. we'll see what happens. i'll keep you posted


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Nov 7 2003 3:19PM
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mtbakerskier
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better bring some knee pads with you too.
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Nov 7 2003 5:35PM
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Girays_Brother
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fuck man thats a lotta posts west

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Nov 7 2003 5:40PM
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3ski6guy0
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ya, theres lots of perks in hte ski industry
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Nov 7 2003 5:46PM
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permanente1600
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i just wish i was in it.


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Nov 7 2003 5:46PM
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Dallan!
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work in a store its so chill





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