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I have a pretty bad boot problem. help = +karma

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HR8938Cephei
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so i had the foil boot for the past year and it was my first season and my first pair of boots i bought them online having no idea at all about choosing boots. so now i realize there is more to it than just picking out what sounds the best so now i have a major problem the when i tighten the boots to the tightest i can get them w/o cutting off my circulation my heel slips up and down really far. and the problem is i live in nebraska so there is one place that sells boots and the fitters are clueless.. what do i do?
Oct 19 2008 12:58AM
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MC_
Posts: 692 - Karma: 33
you buy my boots
Oct 19 2008 1:02AM
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Peach.
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go there try on all sorts of boots trying not to listen to the shop guys if they really are that clue less once you have one on walk around and lean forward to mimic skiing see how they feel also the shape of your foot makes a difference like wide narrow if you have a box foot (like mine) i would suggest the spk it fits like a dream. i hope that helped
Oct 19 2008 1:06AM
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~~JEFF~~
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Yeah bro the spk has no shin bang and way forgiving for the heels. And stick w/ the idea of trying out the boots by mimicing skiing in them. Least you gotta do is + Karma.
Oct 19 2008 1:09AM
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MEGAZORD
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What is the width of your foot, what size, your height weight.  This is all key to finding a boot for you.
Oct 19 2008 1:09AM
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HR8938Cephei
Posts: 1411 - Karma: 46
thank you for the help i will go and try that soon. although im pretty sure they wont have spks its nebraska so nobody knows what spks are haha
Oct 19 2008 1:09AM
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skihood
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Well your sorta screwed. Maybe ask around at your local mountain this year? Someone is bound to know something about boots.
Oct 19 2008 4:50AM
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RtC.
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Ignore skia888, the spk will be 100% worse for your foot. It is a bucket compared to the Foil.

As a start I would ask, are the boots fitting alrite everywhere else?

If the answer is yes, then the solution is likely easy.

Yes : Go to the local shop and explain your problem, and that is a localised problem only in your heel. There are two things that can be done that will more than likely solve your problem.
The first are heel risers, these are pads about 10mm think that sit under your liner on the running board, these push your heel up in the bucket so you won't move as much, this may stop it all together depending on the rise you are getting.
The second can be done with or without heel risers, we call it the banana or horse shoe. It's a bit of foam that sticks on the outside of your liner in the heel area. The liner is heated up in the molding ovens then this foam piece is applied to the back of the liner (it basically goes from the right side of your heel, up like 10/15cms then arches over and comes back down the left of your heel.) then you put your liner in the boot, and your foot, then let it mold for 10minutes. These two things should solve all of your problems if it's just in the heel. It should cost a max of $50, and a lot less if you are in with the shop.

No : It may be more complicated but new boots may be the answer.

Get at me with some more info and i'll try and help some more but that should get you going.
Do not take boot recommendations over the internet.
Oct 19 2008 6:05AM
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RtC.
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SPK is a no no
and you are not screwed.
Oct 19 2008 6:06AM
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HamFaceGirl
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you are screwed
Oct 19 2008 10:24AM
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KravtZ
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please dont buy spk's....the only thing they are good for is straight up park. if you ride anywhere else you will hate them
Oct 19 2008 10:39AM
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borskee
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sounds like your boots are a little too big on you

i had the same problem with my foils this past season but all i did was buy some of those gell heel pad and put and extra sole in the bottom of the boot and there was no more slip with my ankles

hope that helps

Oct 19 2008 1:21PM
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cobra_commander
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when you go in first shell fit your self, don't go buy any of the sizing listed other then the bsl, which should be printed on the one of the sides of the heel lug, 26/265 are right around 305, 27/275 are usualy 315-320 off the top of my head, so any way the shell fit, take the liner out put your foot in the shell, move your foot so your toes are touching the front of the boot, lean forward, keeping your toes touchig the front and get your fingers between your heel and the back of the boot, there should be no more then two finger widths between the boot and your heel, two fingers is ideal, racers tend to go one. you will be ok at 3/2 - 2,
so find the shell size that works for you this is very important.
Then put the liner back in the boot, and put your foot in, also it is a good idea to have a thin pair of ski socks on, like you would for skiing. before standing up buckle the boot, now stand up and flex the boot forward while holding the flex alternate using the top two buckles to pull your foot back into the heel pocket. then latch the insole buckle on the first setting that will hold it, then thighten the toe buckle, and lastly cinch down the power strap

When you stand stright up your toes need to be touching the end of the boot, when you flex forward they should come back a little. The boot should feel like a tight glove all around your foot especialy in the ankle, lower leg and fore foot. If it is crushing (not just tight and snug) your fore foot the boot is in all probability too narow and you need to go to a wider boot, if it is not very snug the boot is too wide and you need a narrower boot.  Once you find the fit that works best for you, stick to that line of boots, not brand, untill you find the flex that works for you. so Salomon Impact, Technica Vento, Lange Fluid, ect, Keep in mind however that when you start hitting the high end boots in free ride series the sheel usualy changes to a plug shell, expamples: Nordica Supper Charger, and the Technica Agent.

I can't garuenty you will get good results with that but for the most part it is how we do initial fitting, Its a fairly simple method that usually gets good results,

All and all remember that smaller is better then bigger when it comes to boots, be ready to spend more on boots, they are the most important part of your ski equipment. Also the shell size is the most important part of what I said except for what I am about to say.

If your family does go on a ski trip to some resort at say christmass, or presedents day, resort vilages allways have really damn good boot fitters at them, look online to find one with a good reputation, there is a pretty good list floating around TGR. Also be ready to drive in your area, Yesterday I had a guy who drove from Bend OR to Seattle WA to get fit because quite simply it is worth it to get a good fit. There really is nothing like a good boot fit.
Oct 19 2008 6:26PM
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RtC.
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He went and got fitted in a shop, some technicas were comfy apparently So he thinks he is going to buy them.
Oct 19 2008 6:36PM
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