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DEBATE 10/15/08

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hype
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wellllll here it is
Oct 15 2008 9:01PM
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no_steeze
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yes, it is, we all know, let's begin another massive political argument between aspendukes, ax_murderer, corked7man, and other political thread whores!!!
Oct 15 2008 9:02PM
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Alex_G
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skiminnesota and jumister
Oct 15 2008 9:05PM
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pmills
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fail on my thread
Oct 15 2008 9:06PM
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MCIRONCOCK
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Ryno and...dicklover
Oct 15 2008 9:07PM
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hype
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hahaha i saw that...sorry man..... at least it will fall deep to the depths of threads, untouched and unheard of
Oct 15 2008 9:07PM
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Rajna
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hah i love seeing the different perspectives in the NS political debates...drew and rowen are by far the most interesting to see clog up a thread
Oct 15 2008 9:08PM
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pmills
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no worries, i'm stoaked for this set up, each across from the other at a desk.
Oct 15 2008 9:09PM
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clrumivier4life
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Was it just me or was McCain's story about "Joe the Plumber" a terrible answer.
Oct 15 2008 9:10PM
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Ben.
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not just you
Oct 15 2008 9:11PM
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A_Davis
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I will cast my vote for which ever meets the important criteria.
- How to get to chads gap from the bottom of alta
- Pee in her butt and I put on my robe and wizard hat made into national slogans
- skiing pipe in the olympics
- and the winner of the NS bumper sticker thread.
- Oh and a tax break for NS members ( we should be recognized as a separate part of society)
Oct 15 2008 9:12PM
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coolhandluke
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joe the plumber FTW!


wall street journal (is right-leaning not going to pretend to hide anything).  here's their take on obama's 95%.  (LINK)
Oct 15 2008 9:12PM
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eheath
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McCain has just proved to me he is retarded, obama says he wants to cut taxes, but then mccain thinks he said he's going to raise them! What an idiot! if he can't hear he shouldnt be in the white house! lolz
Oct 15 2008 9:14PM
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prontocuts.com
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joe six pack is prolly like "oh man what did i start?"
Oct 15 2008 9:15PM
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coolhandluke
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obama's plan balances the cut for "95% of working families" but raising taxes for the other 5%
lolz back to you
Oct 15 2008 9:15PM
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Quinny
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No, Obama said taxes would be lower for the middle class. Total income tax revenue would actually go up under his plan.
Oct 15 2008 9:16PM
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twsnow22
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this shows how deceiving politicians can be... overall taxes would go up with obamas plan 
Oct 15 2008 9:19PM
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pmills
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Did McCain give any programs he'd cut?
Oct 15 2008 9:20PM
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coolhandluke
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they both just made good points on how immediate domestic investment cuts longterm foreign dependence.

they just have opposing viewpoints on going about it.

i am not going to get anything done at work with this debate.
Oct 15 2008 9:20PM
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eheath
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I was kind of being sarcastic, but to any retard person in the united states, McCain just made himself look like a retard. The joe the plummer story is subjective, how much money does joe make? how much money does joe have? There are many other variable to consider whether joe could afford the taxes or not. Im guessing middle class is 40-50k to 200k yes?
Oct 15 2008 9:20PM
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J.D.
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"Increasing total tax revenue" means something completely different from "raising taxes".



Oct 15 2008 9:20PM
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pmills
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I'M NOT BUSH!
Oct 15 2008 9:21PM
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hype
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that bush thing was fucking great by mccain
Oct 15 2008 9:21PM
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Quinny
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But he would raise taxes in several brackets. Its not like that extra money is going to come out of thin air.
Oct 15 2008 9:22PM
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eheath
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Minus being retarded i feel like he is.
Oct 15 2008 9:22PM
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coolhandluke
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"balance the budget in four years?"

mccain says "yes"........ummmm nope
Oct 15 2008 9:22PM
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pmills
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it's too bad he's only 10% accurate about that
Oct 15 2008 9:22PM
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Ben.
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Not gonna lie, it seems to me that mccain is dominating right now
Oct 15 2008 9:22PM
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hype
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woops didnt mean to quote
Oct 15 2008 9:22PM
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Rajna
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even fox news supports it. lawl.
Oct 15 2008 9:23PM
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T.L.
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"Even Fox News" - golden
Oct 15 2008 9:24PM
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Ben.
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nvm i retract that statement.
Oct 15 2008 9:24PM
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pmills
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he's kicking around emotion, but i'm not sure how straight his answers are.

i agree though that people will like how McCain is dealing this out.
Oct 15 2008 9:24PM
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NC-skier
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^ me too
Oct 15 2008 9:24PM
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Quinny
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Find me a plumber that makes 200k a year.
Oct 15 2008 9:25PM
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eheath
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It seems like you dumbass old man who is about to die, he's fucking shaking as he talks. If i personally knew anybody who voted for McCain i would slap them. How could you vote for him? His ideas are stupid and its just going to be another bush.
Oct 15 2008 9:25PM
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pmills
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You didn't play my rules, and you hurt my feelings.
Oct 15 2008 9:27PM
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eheath
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Isn't that the point though? Isn't obama taxing big companies more? He's gonna make way less, so wouldn't he fall in middle class as a small business?
Oct 15 2008 9:27PM
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clrumivier4life
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McCain is really trying to distance himself from Bush.
Oct 15 2008 9:27PM
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Ben.
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ahahhaha heath you seem angry tonight
Oct 15 2008 9:27PM
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twsnow22
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he is a real plumber.. he was gonna buy a business and under obamas tax plan he would bump up into a different tax bracket..
Oct 15 2008 9:28PM
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eheath
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People are just retarded, how could you vote for McCain, just listening to him talk right now is pissing me off. The 1/2 of retarded 18 or older people in this country have no idea whats going on and don't realize that the last thing we need in the white house is a republican.
Oct 15 2008 9:29PM
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hype
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as far as the nasty campaing acts q.....mccain kicked ass....no questions asked
Oct 15 2008 9:29PM
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twsnow22
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alot of small businesses make more than 250,000 a year.. so they would pay more 
Oct 15 2008 9:29PM
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T.L.
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"joe the plumber" count - 3 i believe?
Oct 15 2008 9:31PM
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pmills
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i think by a lot you mean 2%
Oct 15 2008 9:31PM
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Quinny
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If Joe is truly middle class, odds are he's not making much more than 100k a year.
Oct 15 2008 9:32PM
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twsnow22
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i would just trust all of obamas statistics
Oct 15 2008 9:33PM
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coolhandluke
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awww heathy, threatening violence at the polls?
Oct 15 2008 9:34PM
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Ben.
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Middle class plummer? i would guess 75k
Oct 15 2008 9:34PM
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T.L.
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I guess in order for me to be the most patriotic i can be i have to attend a rally of his.
Oct 15 2008 9:34PM
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