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Best Way to Make a B.C. Booter?

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Farquaharson
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what's the best way to make a bc booter. a couple friends and i are gonna go backcountry as soon as enough snow builds up i was just wondering whats the best way to make one
Oct 8 2008 7:20PM
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MC_POUTINE
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get below the fresh snow to harder snow then make blocks or huge chunks and build the kicker out of that. make sure you have a good in run too
Oct 8 2008 7:22PM
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TheQuailman
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whenever you make a jump, people are always like ok its good now, and they try to hit it and they just like plow through it.

So yea, I just pile up a ton of snow (looks like way more than necessary) and then carve the jump out of that (haha pun).  The pressure causes the jump to get pretty compact, but yea it all depends on snow and stuff, and someone can probably tell you better than I can but just take some test runs where you 'hockey stop' on the top to make sure its legit

best of luck
Oct 8 2008 7:24PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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searchbar there are some good threads

but pretty much frame out the jump with big blocks of snow as stated in the first post then fill the middle with some more hard snow, throw some snow into the cracks between blocks on the outside so there are no gaps between blocks etc. also make sure the front two corners of the jump are structurally sound, they are the most important parts. after you build it let is sit for a while, you can salt it if you want but if you let it sit for an hour or two it should do the trick also, your best bet would be to leave it overnight
Oct 8 2008 7:28PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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oh yeah someone said hockey stop on the lip....dont do that, that will toilet bowl the lip. stop before the lip on the in run and slide up the lip softly
Oct 8 2008 7:30PM
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Skibumsmith
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I have never had a problem with a jump cause I didn't let is sit. I just pile up a ton of snow and stomp on it and shape it a bunch. Like really stomp on it hard. If it starts to break apart throw some more snow on it later. Make sure you don't get the snow from in front of the jump or you will have to fill it back in for the in run. Stomp out a good in run and fill in holes. Make sure the lip is big enough too. I learned that the hard way. I would have a small jump and a huge gap. That makes it harder to do tricks on. Good transition is key. Some of this might be obvious but that's as much as I can think of.
Oct 8 2008 7:45PM
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no_steeze
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make a massive pile of snow and then pack the shit out of it, if it's a decent size booter you should be able to walk on it. ski step it, beat it with shovels, and just make a super stable booter and then let it sit, also slide out your inrun or else you'll knuckle the jump. just make sure you have a good spot before you dig
Oct 8 2008 7:48PM
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InfernoHits
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blocks are fast and easiest
Oct 8 2008 7:51PM
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traylortrash
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yeah, I was wondering this as well.... 
Oct 8 2008 7:51PM
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Ben.
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cant you also salt it to make it melt a little and then harden again?
Oct 8 2008 10:26PM
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Skibumsmith
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I don't carry salt around with me so one day I had a few nalgene bottles full of water and poured water evenly over the top. It froze within a few minutes. Worked OK.

Oct 8 2008 10:30PM
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TylerS
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Yea, block method is definetly the way to go. Other things that you definetly should do is sidestep the tranny, inrun and jump.
Oct 8 2008 10:43PM
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the-big-lepowski
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Screw jumps. Drop cliffs.  Jk......but seriously
A good transition makes a huge difference.  If you are trying to gap something, obviously go for a long, low-angle tranny.
Oct 8 2008 11:33PM
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garrett.
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salt
Oct 8 2008 11:38PM
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skier_boy26
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yea get to the deeper layers for better building and stability, but early, that may be dirt :/

probably the worst thing with bc booters is most people dont realize the amount of time necessary to usually make one. so allow plenty of time. also, be sure to step back and really see what the jump is shaping to be like, because while you're up close, the jump may seem large/proportionate for what you want, but at actually speeds, it may be just a glorified speed bump.
Oct 8 2008 11:40PM
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special_k10101
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blocks are the way to go.  i also recommend getting a snowboarder to put their board in back of the base of the jump when you are building.  it prevents you from losing snow down the hill, and makes the jump stable until it's finished.
Oct 8 2008 11:44PM
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TheStamos
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Go out and find your spot right now, i mean if you know the area. Pile a shit ton of brush on top of rocks and make a big mound, then when it snows { if it doesn't disappear completely or get drifted over } you have a jump area for every fresh snow of the season, .word.
Oct 8 2008 11:45PM
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[~_~]
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usually if it's early spring snow, you want to dig a foot or two down into the surface of the snow.

Cut some big blocks, build a frame. Fill it, stomp it, shave the walls, and you're good to go.
Oct 9 2008 12:26AM
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manwiththemetalleg
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I find ituseful to make use of your skis and boards also, in order to help pack snow in. As said previously, digging down and getting the harders blocks of snow is the best and fastest way of building a decent kicker. The following is a small kicker we built using blocks and ski's. It sent you along and off the edge of a medium sized cornice, which meant there wasn't need for a big jump. So positioning is also important, as we could have spent twice as long building a bigger kicker to get the same amount of airtime.

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Oct 9 2008 6:28AM
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manwiththemetalleg
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Finished product
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Oct 9 2008 6:39AM
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AdiibA
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actually the most importand thing is where to build one, building the booter itself isnt hard
Oct 9 2008 8:08AM
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Shark.
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i hate those kids

but yeah make huge blocks and create a sort of outline of the jump then fill it in. a good run in is pretty necessary too

Oct 9 2008 12:53PM
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NW_Rider
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get some rock salt and salt it in like 20" lifts, so every 20 inches of snow you pile up, add a LIGHT layer of salt, let it sit for like 5, then keep adding layers till you get the desired height, should make it sturdy all the way through.
Oct 9 2008 1:08PM
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Twinjibber77
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Have "smart" snowboard friends that do it all
or
Make large blocks, use snowboards to shape and hold walls steady

Oct 9 2008 1:44PM
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OneLove_skier
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^^^ ya big chunks of snow
Oct 9 2008 1:48PM
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AltaByrdSkier
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ya huge chunks of snow
Oct 9 2008 2:19PM
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the420skier
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NO NO NO NO NO!
massive blocks for the whole outline of the jump then once it big enuf throw snow it it, for the lip make another layer of thinner blocks at the lip then shave it into a lip, but make sire the transitions are good thats key
Oct 9 2008 2:34PM
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Literature
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Piston Bully. Quick, fast, easy, and a really wide lip.
Oct 9 2008 3:32PM
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Farquaharson
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oh for sure. definitely the way to go. but anyways thanks for all the suggestions guys...all i need now is some snow for fuck's sakes

Oct 16 2008 11:35PM
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chicken
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Use Skis to hold the blocks so you can just toss them instead of having to have good aim (like in that pic)
start by throwing snow from a couple feet below the jump, when it gets to high to easily throw the blocks uphill move above the jump (out of the way of the inrun) and throw from there. when the jump is shaping up you can move to right beside it because you will know exactly where the jump is and you wont waste time filling in holes in it. Do a light step and let it sit as long as you can (overnight is ideal but lunch is usualy long enough, then step it hard and shape it and session the fuck out of it.


Oct 17 2008 1:14AM
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hemlockjibber8
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with snow you fuckin retard
Oct 17 2008 4:03AM
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griffon
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqXXfEyQ_TI

maybe this helps?

Oct 17 2008 10:15AM
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J.robinson
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i prefer to use a shovel.
Oct 17 2008 12:48PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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you will need shovels, salt, and a little water.

Blocks arent a necessity, but make work easier than shoveling a shit ton of snow. You will need a bigger jump than you think, and it is a lot of work to do it right. I layer salt every few blocks so they fuse together, and use salt and water when packing down the finished product. I prefer a longer style jump vs a kicker. Which takes longer, but is way safer I think.

the inrun is really the most work, you have to side step a lot, which is tiring. and sometimes its awkward. BUt make a nice long one of those and youre pretty set for a good time hoppin around.


Oct 17 2008 1:11PM
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chicken
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kickers are way better, and safer but alot harder to make good
Oct 21 2008 2:00AM
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punkrock32
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The most important part to a good BC jump is to make sure its feasible.  Make sure there is more than enough speed for the potential jump, as well as making sure there is a good (flatter) spot to build the jump, with a long, steeper landing.  Once its been decided that this is a good spot, have a few kids shovel, while one or two steps out an inrun.  The best way to build a jump is by the snow block method, but an easier way is to start building the frame of the jump just by throwing snow, and then fill in the middle.  Leave it to sit overnight, or bring salt as mentioned above if you want to hit it the same day.

Oct 21 2008 2:30AM
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KLovelace
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pwa! er isch voll nid duutsch!! was fur n akzent isch das?

naja.. susch guet gmacht.
translation-good tips here.
Oct 21 2008 2:47AM
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