Full Tilt vs Intuition liners

i dont know alot about fulltilt's liners, but in my experience, intuition liners pack out way faster than a stock liner, but they do provide a superior custom fit. also do you have footbeds? if not, i highly suggest investing in a pair, even if you can only afford cut-to-fit ones

Are you asking whether full tilt liners or intuition liners are better?  Because full tilt uses intuition liners.  Thery're the same thing.

I'm not 100% on this but I think the FT pro liner is still one of the best that Intuition make, plus it is the wrap design unlike the Luxury and Freeride liners (which i prefer, personal preference i guess..)

In any case, they are all great choices - i'd look at the Luxury instead of the freeride because of the slightly stiffer flex tongue

In any case, get someone who really knows how to mold them properly and you'll be roses.

Pricing and specs looked different on each site, I wasnt sure, though I thought it was like that.

intuition definitely make FT liners

thats what i thought, but i wasnt sure, anyway, get the highest grade, stiffest liner you can

from what i know the FT's dont come with footbeds and intuition says they arent necessary in their liners since they can mold so well to your feet and provide some sort of arch support already. However, many still recommend a footbed as the arch support and such will far exceed just the liner

Ya I'm pretty sure Full Tilt uses the Intuition Power Wrap liner (which is the highest performance liner they make) on the Bumble Bee Pro. I used the liner last year and I didn' have any complaints. I would suggest you get that liner because it is a little stiffer (if thats what you like) and it also had more ankle protection. Everyone I know never used a foot bed when they got intuition liners but I guess if you have a custom one I'd use that.

I've definitely heard that as well

they may say that but always go with a footbed because there's no way a liner is going to provide you with the proper arch support in a boot

as far as getting them fitted, make sure you're not dealing with a kid or someone that thinks they know what they're doing. always insist on getting the head boot fitter or a race fitter. that way you know you're dealing with the right person.
if you're buying the boots online and they're a little big, there's a really good chance they'll never fit properly because there's only so much even the most experianced boot guys can do.

Okay, I want to set a few things straight for you all. I don't work for Intuition or anythig, just an avid follower.

Yes, Intuition make the Liners for FT and Dalbello but the liners are slightly different. the Original Intuition liners use more close cell foam (which gives them a greater lifespan) than either FT or Dalbello. Intuition liners are stiffer than there respective model in FT and ID.
The footbed truly isn't necessary with Intuition, it offers the same support as a footbed but is in complete contact with your foot, it feels better in my opinion. And does not lose shape over time. I haven't used one yet, and i've had 3liners from them.
Intuition liners don't really pack out from my experience. What you bake is generally very similar to the overall result.

I would always buy direct from Intuition as they use the highest quality foam and have amazing durability.

I would also, steer clear of the new tongue versions in your case (not all cases.) purely because FTs are designed to be used with wraparounds. It has something to do with the way the boot flexs and the support it provides down the front of the shell tongue

If you want stiff and super responsive then get the power wrap, amazing everywhere and a quality liner. The powerwrap plug has less foam to increase the volume but still has thick foam in the key places.
I also use the Alpine liner in my Park boots as they use the same cell system without the power wrap to make them more forgiving.

Look into TGR they usually do a bulk buy that gets you a fair discount off the price, check for the thread and it'll give you instructions as far as I remember.

Peace

if your going to buy a FT or a dalbello boot would it be worth it to upgrade to the separate liners intuition sells?

No definitely not man, the ID and FT liners are still absolutely fantastic and piss all over stock liners from salomon and others. It's just if you were to buy a separate liner, I would buy Intuition.
Peace

Dude, thanks for the info!

yea thanks man