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Are you voting for Obama?

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Reply to this thread if you are.  I need a confidence boost that this country can improve and try to get out of the rut that we are currently in.
Oct 3 2008 9:31PM
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do you think mccains better at it?
Oct 4 2008 10:37AM
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PhaedeD
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no thats not what im saying. im saying that the majority of the public likes obama because he can speak good and it kind of brings and ora that people like. they dont listen to the actually bullshit content he speaks about but rather just how he speaks. you take a piece of paper from him or a teleprompter and he is garbage. If you want to live in a socialist country vote obama i dont really give a fuck either way because neither one of them will help make marijuana legal.
Oct 4 2008 10:40AM
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That would be a good time but I'm pretty sure that's the last thing our country needs right now unless your under thirty
Oct 4 2008 10:44AM
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PhaedeD
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maybe thats exactly what the country needs.... if they legalized marijuana and taxed it just like they do cigs we could help get our selves out of debit. the government could make mad loot if they sold weed. but no its a drug fuck that its no more of a drug than alcohol. either way im not voting for obama because i dont want to be turned into a socialist/communist or anything like that anytime soon.
Oct 4 2008 10:47AM
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We've had too many rich white males as presidents
Oct 4 2008 10:54AM
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and also the thought of Palin becoming president if McCain was to die is scary enough to make me lose sleep at night
Oct 4 2008 10:55AM
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PhaedeD
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so what we need a rich black male now?

i mean dont forgot Mrs. Obama works on the board at a hospital when you are on the board at a hospital they ask you to do this and you usually have to pay to be on the board as in give donations and gifts. well she seemed to have some how pocketed a few hundred thousand from the hospital, now that just aint right.
Oct 4 2008 11:08AM
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Poppins
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dont worry about socialism or communism invading the american way of life, its already here. as long as there are limits on gay marriage and abortion, religion will be the thing we have to worry about. all obama can do for us is not spend money on the war. thats all this really comes down.

and we all know palin is an idiot, sure she put on a good show at the vp debate, but her interviews with gibson and couric proved how dumb she really is. and mccain WILL die in office, and palin will be the president. that is just not good. the BEST part about obama becoming president is that he will probably get assassinated, and then we will have biden (fuckin genius) in charge, and that will be the best.
Oct 4 2008 11:29AM
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slaydave
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i dont want palin anywhere near the white house. her and mccains impulsive decision making is dangerous.

i trust obamas promises over mccains promises...

Oct 4 2008 11:31AM
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SteezyMcDizzle
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I respect your desire for change. In fact its what I want too.
But I am not voting for Obama. And I am not voting for McCain either. I am not voting for anyone, because there is no one running that I believe in as a qualified candidate. There were a couple of people running in the primaries in both parties I would have considered voting for, but they are no longer running.

Take a look at Obama's contributors:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?id=N00009638&cycle=2008

Goldman Sachs $739,521 University of California $697,506 Harvard University $501,489 Citigroup Inc $492,548 Google Inc $487,355 JPMorgan Chase & Co $475,112 National Amusements Inc $432,169 Microsoft Corp $429,656 UBS AG $419,550 Lehman Brothers $391,774 Wilmerhale Llp $383,024 Time Warner $375,063 Sidley Austin LLP $370,916 Skadden, Arps et al $360,409 Stanford University $341,399 Morgan Stanley $341,380 Latham & Watkins $328,879 Jones Day $309,960 University of Chicago $294,237 General Electric $290,584


Oct 4 2008 11:32AM
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beer.
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the ignorant masses vote for a candidate who has no intentions of helping people in their socioeconomic background, purely based on their gut feelings for him.
Oct 4 2008 11:56AM
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SteezyMcDizzle
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Now lets look at the contributors for former Republican candidate Ron Paul:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00005906



US Army $78,755 US Navy $60,426 US Air Force $58,655 Google Inc $57,901 Microsoft Corp $50,073 US Postal Service $27,541 Lockheed Martin $24,725 Boeing Co $23,588 Verizon Communications $20,444 Cisco Systems $20,089 US Dept of Defense $19,498 Huffines Communities $18,600 Hewlett-Packard $18,567 Northrop Grumman $18,157 AT&T Inc $17,596 General Dynamics $17,555 Raytheon Co $16,379 IBM Corp $16,180 Apple Inc $15,953
$15,659





On Marijuana:




On Iraq War in 2002!






On Economic Collapse:




on getting out of Iraq:




Its ironic that the one Republican candidate calling for immediate withdrawal from Iraq is the one that gets the most contributions from the US Military.







Oct 4 2008 11:57AM
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dwigt
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if i could vote, i would vote for Obama

Oct 4 2008 12:11PM
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Perma
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threads back, just got deleted for a minute. strange
Oct 4 2008 1:08PM
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Alex_G
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trust me, rez4fredrick and itmilo. have shown us plenty about ron paul...
Oct 4 2008 1:31PM
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jksl
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i'm voting for superman, because he has super powers.
Oct 4 2008 1:39PM
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EClay46
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in order to vote for someone you dont have to agree with all of there policy and oppose all of there opponents policy. if you believe that then you are just ignorant
Oct 4 2008 1:59PM
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PhaedeD
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sorry i wasnt writing my college essay bro.

sorry wasn't*, bro = brother, sorry.
Oct 4 2008 2:04PM
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PhaedeD
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new government programs and higher taxes on corporations is not the answer.

Oh and when you are in a debate with someone don't agree with everything that they say(obama) this just shows us again how much of a people pleaser he is and how he says things that people want to hear when thats really not how he feels.
Oct 4 2008 2:08PM
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PhaedeD
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political success comes from speaking well and not actions.... god i wish he would do something to show me he can lead a country. just like his main man joe said the presidency is not something you get on the job training for.
Oct 4 2008 2:10PM
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TheButterHashira
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I would probably vote third party. Bob Barr or someone. If the election were very close and I could vote I might swallow my pride and vote for mccain or obama. Most likely mccain though. They are about the same to me. I agree with obama on some things and mccain on some things but there are many issues that I disagree with both of them on.
Oct 4 2008 2:12PM
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Tex.
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so being successful is a bad thing??? wow i guess i need to go back to kindergarten.
Oct 4 2008 2:29PM
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Tex.
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thats awesome man, i'm glad your going to get out and vote. i would just like to know why obama is the better canidate for you and why you would never vote for mccain. you have every right to vote for who you want to vote for but can you give me some facts??





Oct 4 2008 2:36PM
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Tex.
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thank you so much for actually contributing something meaninful to this thread, it seems like everybody else won't vote for mccain because he's old and that palin can't name a newspaper that she reads and nobody will vote for obama because he's a celeb with no experience.
Oct 4 2008 2:40PM
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Tex.
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i bet you can't wait for christmas then, because obama promisses everything under the sun.
Oct 4 2008 2:42PM
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pmills
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no but you were calling someone else out on not being able to speak well, if you're going to be saying a man can't speak , you aught to express yourself the best you can to set an example.


Oct 4 2008 2:42PM
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Tex.
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awesome, lets downplay the future of our country by making jokes..cute.
Oct 4 2008 2:44PM
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(Jonesy)
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well if he dies, palin becomes president. that alone would be enough to dissuade me from voting republican.
Oct 4 2008 2:48PM
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Tex.
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mccain survived several years of being a POW where his arms were broken and he was tortured nearly to death several times... i doubt he's just going to die out of the blue..

his bouts with melanoma were nothing. also, if family history has anything to do with it.. his mother is in her 90's.


come up with a better reason.
Oct 4 2008 2:54PM
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Shpadoinkle
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I'm voting for Palin and that other dude.

Oct 4 2008 3:05PM
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Thizzed
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McCain and im black
Oct 4 2008 3:08PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Double whammy!
Oct 4 2008 3:14PM
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Thizzed
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McCain and Im black
Oct 4 2008 3:16PM
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PhaedeD
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cool story but typing on a computer is a little different than saying words out of your mouth in front of 1 million people.
Oct 4 2008 3:47PM
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PhaedeD
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harvard law review, illinois state senate?? what does that mean?
Oct 4 2008 3:48PM
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PhaedeD
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one more thing, if you are for change why select a vp candidate who has been in politics for 33 years and is an old rich white dude???
Oct 4 2008 3:49PM
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Sky.
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John Mccain is a crusty old man, this is what is going to happen if he becomes president, he is going to eat somthing that has to much fat/salt and get a heart attack and die and then our country is going to be ran by a crazy bear killing psychopath who only has a bachelors degree
Oct 4 2008 4:27PM
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PhaedeD
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i love how the only thing you liberals ever say is mccain is going to die. so fucking what obama is going to die in office to so whatever.
Oct 4 2008 4:42PM
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dangerdad
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I DONT CARE AT ALL THAT MCCAIN MIGHT DIE!!

the simple fact of the matter is that he has voted over 90% with bush and i absolutely dont want another 4-8 years of what we have just had.

I dont want the US to  invest my money in a war that will never end. I dont want the environment to be affected in any way that would jeopardize my skiing. I want the rich upper class to swindle off money by not paying a fair amount of taxes.

Oct 4 2008 4:50PM
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KramerC
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NOpe, obama is a commi
Oct 4 2008 5:07PM
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(Jonesy)
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he survived hanoi hotel. awesome. how many years ago was that?

that wasn't my only reason. i simply said that would be enough to make me not want to vote.

here's my reason for voting Obama: I WANT CHANGE.

I want to see our country move in a positive direction. I'm sick of being the most hated country in the world. Now i'm sure you'll try and combat this by listing a bunch of things that the Bush administration has done to improve our country as well as a few countries that don't hate us, so let me just congratulate you in advance. The negative impacts this administration has had on our country outweighs what good it has done.

Plus, i'm just tired of watching a cowboy with the mentality of a four year old run this country. But with a name like "Tex", i'm sure you aren't.
Oct 4 2008 5:08PM
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skithe49th
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haha greatspeaker....with a teleprompter, when both McCain and Palins prompters broke at RNC did they do this??

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Oct 4 2008 5:11PM
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skithe49th
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shit wouldnt go, here i think

Oct 4 2008 5:12PM
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skithe49th
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or
Oct 4 2008 5:15PM
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I-Ski-AK
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you all dont want palin to become pres, but that bitch was my governess.
Oct 4 2008 5:25PM
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iluvBread
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obama has no fuckin experience wuts so ever
Oct 4 2008 5:33PM
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skithe49th
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word, and its kinda fucked up how now that she was announced people actually give a shit about alaska, and what we think and all that.
Oct 4 2008 8:06PM
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Tex.
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wow man, i still have no clue why you want to vote for obama, i'm not even voting for him and will talk about his issues since you seem to either not know them or not want to talk about them. and i'm just some dumb hick named Tex. that must be a gun carrying, chain people to the electric chair killing far right republican.. i lived there till i was 15 then moved to utah hombre. but thanks for judging me based on my NS name.

obama's tax plan is fucking insane please tell me that its not boarderline communism, do you even know what his tax plan is??

he wants to tax people like my brother who went thru 8 years of school after high school then 6 more years of training and small things before finally making the money he deserves as a doctor. and he's suppossed to pay over 60% of that in taxes?? thats fucking bullshit.  he's got student loans to pay off too and lets not forget people like him are going to be the ones fixing up you, your family and your friends when you get sick or hurt.. thats how we should treat people that give so much back to the communtiy, tax the shit out of them.

and since this is NS, i feel its only appropriate to mention what type of effect his tax plan could have on the ski community. Isn't it logical to assume that because he will raise taxes on ski resorts that they will raise the costs of pretty much everything? but i guess as long as you can still buy your 99 cent cheeseburger at mcdonalds that's all that really matters. but what about you're groceries?? that shit is already going thru the roof and you will probably see either a cost increase or customer service and product quality go to shit at where it is you buy your stuff if his tax plan goes into effect.

but what about the 95% of people he promises to give tax cuts too?? won't they have more money?? well yea, if they keep their job after corperations lay off all their co-workers they will have more money but then the federal budget will have no money.

and obama wants to give everybody cheap (if not free) healthcare!!  oh man, i can't wait till you have to wait 4 weeks do see a doctor for a sprained ankle. (don't worry about me though, remember how earlier i said my brother is a doctor, its chill if you give me a call i'll make a reservation for you) 

how does obama plan to come up with the money to put his energy plan into works if he does in fact give 95% of people a tax brake?? i really don't understand?? its like a math problem with no X or Y..  pulling out of the war wont even come close to enough money to pay for all of his plans.

wow man you were totally right about me, i sure did list a bunch of things bush has done to improve the country.. you sould write a fucking book about me.
Oct 4 2008 8:09PM
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ax_murderer
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sarcasm?

thatd be ironic coming from someone whose name and icon are V....
Oct 4 2008 8:48PM
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PhaedeD
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no but its besides the point the guy isnt going to die in 4 years get over it. i just keep constantly reading it. if you want to make a good valid point go ahead but can we get over the omg he is going to die.
Oct 4 2008 8:52PM
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