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Vice Presidential Debate

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kepler.
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I know it's not till Thursday but I'm already gearing up for one of the best events of the year.

I don't care what your party affiliation but the fact is that Biden is so much more ready for this than Palin. It's going to be a disaster. So who's making popcorn and watching the spectacle with me?

Oh and feel free to start a big political argument here. I know someone will.

Sep 29 2008 4:12PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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You don't put the whole drum up there, she can use a gallon or so per question.
Oct 2 2008 1:29AM
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snowbladesforlife
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You must be joking. It is easy and fun to degrade people based on their degree choice. When is that last time you actually met someone smart who had a BA in anthro?

There are certain degrees that have no value whatsoever and should not be taught anywhere.


Just look at graduate test scores by major. Business majors are retards.
Oct 2 2008 1:36AM
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Elijah.
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I can't wait. Should be a good show. I'm excited to see how Biden destroys Palin..
Oct 2 2008 1:36AM
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RudyGarmisch
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I DID IT FOR THE LULZ

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Oct 2 2008 1:55AM
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grubix2
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Palin could be the downfall of the republicans in this election.  I'm not exactly sure why she was chosen... other than the fact that she's a woman.

The republicans spent the entire early part of the campaign criticizing Obama's lack of experience.  So what do they do?  They chose a running mate who's only political experience is mayor, and governor of a state of less than 700,000 people.  Absolutely no experience in Washington.  She doesn't really bring anything to the table.  Other than negative publicity.

She's pretty much lacking in every category.  Including foreign policy, which is the bread and butter for the republicans.  They won't even let her speak out of fear she will keep making a fool out of herself.  And after Lady McCain made the comment about Russia being visable from Palin's house, people are getting the vibe that this could be George Bush with 2 X chromosomes.  She in no way helps the republican ticket in any way shape or form.

If this were a straight forward world.  Obama/Biden would win this election hands down, no questions asked.  But Obama's black and his middle name is Hussein.  Americans are closeminding and easily persuaded.

Kerry Lost to Bush because of moralistic and conservative christian ideals.
If Obama loses to McCain because he's black, I'll be ashamed to have been born in this country.
Oct 2 2008 3:55AM
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FUUUCK
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She already is. I respect Mccain for the most part, Palin has done nothing but prove she isn't up to the job.
Oct 2 2008 9:06AM
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Kornn101
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i knew someone would start spewing this crap. once the mccain camp starting bitching the other day, it always trickles down to the peons.

its almost as bad as how they are gonna try to immediately paint biden as condescending or sexist after he owns palin on every single topic. all this talk in the media about how palin has to 'take it easy' not to offend people is fucking retarded.

in the dem primaries people went straight after hilary and she went straight after everyone else, thats how u fucking debate, u argue ur principles and the issues, u dont take it easy just cuz u might hurt the retards feelings.

send this bitch back to alaskan joe, its gonna be a shitshow.
Oct 2 2008 9:24AM
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canuck
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Dude, read the article in the link, after reading it, there is no way you cant say this lady is biased.
Plus her book sales should do a lot better if Obama is elected.
Oct 2 2008 9:46AM
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beer.
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"Her attitude was dismissive and the look on her face was one of disgust," Meyers said. "Clearly, she was agitated by what most critics view as a well-delivered speech. It is quite obvious that Ms. Ifill supports Obama as she struggled to say anything redemptive about Gov. Palin's performance."

that article is pure shit, and so is your argument.  people write books.  she's a moderator in a debate that will be watched by thousands, and scrutinized by intelllectually-dishonest republicans to no end.  are you aware our supreme court justices have also written books that espouse their views?  they are a little more important than someone moderating a vp debate.



your stupid little trick of painting anyone with common sense as biased is doneski, bro.  is it biased to say bush sucks?  no, because he does.  palin sucks ass as well, and if you disagree, you have no logic or common sense.  sorry.  there's bias, and there's the truth.
Oct 2 2008 10:02AM
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pmills
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Oct 2 2008 10:05AM
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Quinny
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I can conclude two probable things from this post. First, that you're probably an idiot. Second, that you probably attended a pretty substandard school. I in fact have met plenty of people from all departments that are bright people. I have also met plenty of people from all departments that I would not consider very smart. You can't judge any serious field of study by the conduct of a handful of people. I'd go so far to say your assessment boarders upon bigotry.
Oct 2 2008 2:34PM
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pmills
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i'm going to go out on a limb and say that the Meteorologist degree is the exception, those fuckers can't predict shit.
Oct 2 2008 3:29PM
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Parkboy
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meteorology is fucking hard, so much data crunching it makes my brain feel like fried chicken
Oct 2 2008 3:40PM
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J.D.
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Wait, how did we go from the VP debate to meteorologists?

For people complaining about the moderator, I know nothing about her, but you'd better have more than the expression on her face during a speech and circumstantial evidence to go on. My suggestion is that you actually WATCH the debate and see if you honestly believe the questions are biased. Then you can get back to whining about how the media is so liberal.
Oct 2 2008 5:56PM
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Ryno
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This is Bidens debate to lose, no question about it.

If he gets sucked into trying to make Palin look like like a moron he will come off as condesending and the public wont like him. He needs to ignore the shit she fucks up during the debate (like stats or whatever) because the media will handle that later. I think he should focus on presenting himself and his opinions in a manner that is relevent to the people; he needs to just ignore Palin and just focus on himself and he's won it.
Oct 2 2008 6:07PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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True.
It would be nice if he could just demolish her but then people would get their panties all up in a bunch and shit.
Oct 2 2008 6:08PM
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J.D.
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According to the McCain campaign Palin is going to attack, attack, attack. Basically try to hit Biden so that he has to play defense. What he needs to do is be able to smile and take the hits, cheerfully point out why she's completely wrong about everything without being condescending, and make exactly no gaffes. It would also be to his advantage to get out one or two decent clips or sound bytes so cable news has a reason to put his face on the TV.
Oct 2 2008 6:11PM
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Ryno
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Do you think he can come up with a sentence short enough to be considered a soundbtye? lol.
Oct 2 2008 6:32PM
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canuck
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HOw about this , a chapter title in her book is
"The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama,"
She is biased.....
Oct 2 2008 6:57PM
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canuck
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http://www.essence.com/news_entertainment/news/articles/theobamasportraitofanamericanfamily
Another puff piece by Ifill.... the "unbiased moderator"/journalist.
Oct 2 2008 7:07PM
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iggyskier
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Give me a fucking break.

SHE IS WRITING A BOOK ON BLACK POLITICIANS.  So obviously it is biased for her to be writing about the first black person EVER nominated to be the presidential candidate for a major party....right.

I think it would be wise and make for a very well researched book for her to scrap that chapter. 
Oct 2 2008 7:09PM
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pmills
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Sorry, that was my fault, trying to bring it back on topic i guess you could say due to the high atmospheric pressure i'm expecting a shit storm
Oct 2 2008 7:33PM
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Italian.Stallion
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First, going to a good school doesn't make you that intelligent.  Look at bush, and what he's turned out to be.  Most people don't like him.

Second, McCain did not beat Obama in the debate.  I actually heard it was a tie from a specialist.  The polls could show something different though.

no hate
Oct 2 2008 7:55PM
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pmills
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What channel are you guys watching the debate on?
Oct 2 2008 7:59PM
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Parkboy
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^it's pretty clear that no matter who you prefer to be president, McCain has been sinking after the first debate. All the polls reflect it, and AP reported today McCain is admitting defeat Michigan.
Oct 2 2008 8:01PM
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Ryno
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PRE-DEBATE FOOTAGE!!!

Oct 2 2008 8:54PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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You're predicting a storm based on high pressure?  Shit storms must be anomalies.


Oct 2 2008 8:55PM
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pmills
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as i said meteorologists are talking out their ass regardless so the fact that there is high pressure and that a shit storm is approaching really have nothing to do with one another... BUT i'll take you for your word for it.
Oct 2 2008 8:57PM
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pmills
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IT IS ON!!
Oct 2 2008 9:02PM
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Ben.
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here we go!
Oct 2 2008 9:03PM
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pmills
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AH can we count meterological references?

Barometer what?
Oct 2 2008 9:06PM
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Ben.
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did she just wink at the camera?
Oct 2 2008 9:08PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Well, nothing but bullshit so far.  No surprise there.
Oct 2 2008 9:09PM
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Ben.
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someone needs to tell her we arent 7 years old, she doesnt need to talk to us that way
Oct 2 2008 9:13PM
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skodeo7
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God I love seeing Palin get fucking owned. She is sidestepping SOOOO BAD.
Oct 2 2008 9:14PM
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pmills
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oh snap here comes the straight talk
Oct 2 2008 9:15PM
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Danger.
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Biden is the man for completely shutting Plain and her arguments down. She can't even refute the main arguments..
Oct 2 2008 9:16PM
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slaydave
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this is beauitful... fucking beautiful...
Oct 2 2008 9:16PM
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BootySpunk.
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LOL@ Biden laughin as Palin attempts to "own" him..this is amusing
Oct 2 2008 9:17PM
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Ben.
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i expected her to do worse though....
Oct 2 2008 9:19PM
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Mr_W00
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youve got to be an idiot to want  4 more years of the Bush empire, with his little puppet McCain
Oct 2 2008 9:19PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Yeah, I don't know what debate you guys are watching, but she's doing better than anyone expected and probably at least as well as she needed to so far.  Biden's getting a little flustered.
Oct 2 2008 9:20PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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And another attempt at intelligent discussion on NS is shot dead by platitudes.

Oct 2 2008 9:22PM
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pmills
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sound byte count  (according to the onion first to 7 wins.

Biden 1
"ultimate bridge to nowhere"
Palin 0



Oct 2 2008 9:22PM
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gaudette
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oohh you betcha
Oct 2 2008 9:25PM
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no_steeze
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wow, sarah palin is really, really, really, dumb!!!
Oct 2 2008 9:25PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Soooo....I guess you're not watching the debate then, huh?
Oct 2 2008 9:27PM
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ax_murderer
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haha word my buddys head is spinning, shes holding up very well.



my debate teacher was telling me she has a great debate coach, from liberty college, i guess he knows what he is doing, and he has been coaching her.

but besides that, go palin!
Oct 2 2008 9:29PM
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Ben.
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wait. did she just change the subject back to energy? someone cant answer the question
Oct 2 2008 9:30PM
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skodeo7
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Honestly I almost feel bad for her at this point and we are only half an hour in.
Oct 2 2008 9:30PM
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