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B.Snow
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So I started working out and I'm trying to put in a bit of weight, but I have a few concerns that you guys might be able to help me with.

First of all I wanted to know if its healthy, and if there are any negative effects on you, weather it be short or long term.

Second of all I was wondering if a high weight gain would maybe throw off my balance for skiing if I were to put on enough weight.

Thanks,
17 years ago
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4frnt_or_die
Posts: 780 - Karma: 3
Can't you just grow muscles ''naturally''?  Seriously....
17 years ago
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B.Snow
Posts: 1859 - Karma: 92
Yea I can/ already have... and I don't think you fully understand what protein does
17 years ago
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zackblain
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If you wanted to be like all organic and shit I'd get some soy protein. If I wanted to be like every other kid that wants to gain weight while lifting I'd say hit up some whey protein. No long term effects that I know of/have experienced. Short term effects: shitting, sometimes acted as somewhat of a laxative for me.
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JayDope
Posts: 6842 - Karma: 408
well alot of the protein u take will make u shit like crazy it always does for me...as for soy protein i wouldnt take it, its all like estrogen and shitt its weird.....ive always been good with the protein never had any bad effects just some shitting.....whey is good, or before u go to bed at night take casein protein
17 years ago
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Lateralis
Posts: 1228 - Karma: 332
i guess 4front thinks protein powder is just like steroids
17 years ago
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andrew.
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ive been taking whey protein for like 4 months now, and ive had no bad effects.  i havent noticed any abnormally large shits either, so i guess it varies from person to person.
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doritos
Posts: 7368 - Karma: 53
Get Whey, it's the best. If you really want to bulk up use Creatin, but that shit is really hardcore haha. As for throwing off your weight it won't be an issue as long as you work out everything equally. don't just do your upper body because you want to look bigger. Get your back because otherwise your spine won't be able to support the new weight in the front, and do your legs so that your weight is more balanced and so your legs can support the added weight. I recommend a A, B, and C day setup that looks something like this:

A Day: Chest and Abs
B Day: Biceps/Triceps and Back
C Day: Shoulders and Legs

Have 1-2 days in between each and you'll be golden.
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4frnt_or_die
Posts: 780 - Karma: 3
I know it's not steroids...  But i got friends that are WAY too much into body building and all...  after taking wheat proteins, they started to do more shit, like creatin... haha they're so fucking stupid...  But anyway, you can grow muscles without that, just eat well.  And it costs a lot less!
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Parkboy
Posts: 2303 - Karma: 31
why are they stupid?
17 years ago
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4frnt_or_die
Posts: 780 - Karma: 3
Oh and sorry for the double post, but I go to the gym and train (i'm in a football team) and i don't need to take extra protein and all of that.
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doritos
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Not everyone can dude, if you're like me and you have a lanky build with the metabolism of a rabbit on crack it's really hard. I worked out religiously with an individual, well-researched workout plan for an hour every other day for three months and the results were barely noticeable. Protein powder didn't completely solve the problem but I'm much more broad-shouldered now, I have a lot more definition, and the muscles feel a lot harder for longer without more exercise. And seeing as there's no ill effects of whey protein, why not? Creatin is hardcore but it's not that terrible for you either, definitely not as natural as protein supplements though.
17 years ago
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KravtZ
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yea man creatine is really bad for you
17 years ago
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hawaiiansteeze
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actually i really cant.  i get stronger but dont really put on weight and alot of people are like me.  but to the thread creator go to your local GNC or sometihng like that and they will tell you all about it and what you really want to know more than people on Ns.  but i used this type of whey and it really helped in the summer before football.  go to your local nutrition store is my suggestion
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Parkboy
Posts: 2303 - Karma: 31
how so?
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k-rob
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never needed it in my life, and my muscles are bigger and more well defined than almost every guy at my school. my friends attribute it to my race though, haha.
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notomatoplz
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lol at 4frnt and the people that think protein powder and creatine are hardcore. but you dont need creatine , you mainly just put on temporary water weight with it.

like most people are saying get a good tasting whey protein to take post workout. remember to devote at least one day a week to leg training and that way your legs will keep up with your upper body and you will still have the same jumping power as before. but remember, whey protein isnt like a miracle thing where you just start growing, it just gets to your muscles faster and can repair your muscles faster than any other protein after a workout. if you really wanna put on weight you have to be eating more than you are now and that has to be clean food, like complex carbs and lots of protein.

oh and no protein powder is just like it sounds, its protein. not some freaky anabolic shit that has side effects.
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whattheshit
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get some branched chain amino acids, maltodextrin, and dextrose.  that will increase protein synthesis by 400%.  make sure you get 2:1 ratio of carbs and proteins.  protein without carbs is useless.

get some multi vitamins such as orange triad and some omega 3's and green tea supplements for general health
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4frnt_or_die
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Well the main reason you go to gym is to ''look'' bigger or really be strong?  Muscles don't appear by themselves, and taking creatin to build them is a really bad idea.  Creatin inflates your muscles with water, so you may look big, but you're weak.  The reason I go to the gym is to be stronger not bigger, because being bigger won't help me on the field.

Anyway, it's your choice man.  You can be big fast, or grow strong muscles.  But I prefer being strong and not really look like it rather than being incredibly big, but being weak.

Anyway, my 2 cents.
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notomatoplz
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what repitition range do you train in?

17 years ago
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Jordan
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Well, as a kid who has tried creatine and drank protein drinks here's my input: Creatine is not too good for you in the sense that you are gaining water weight. Also i think its a good chunk of the muscle that you put on from the Creatine is lost the second you stop taking it regularly. I have some Whey protein drink. Its strawberry milkshake flavored and its amazing. haha, but i really don't find it helps me put on weight. What i do use it for is after a hard practice or running to rebuild my muscles faster. But then again I dont drink it everyday so I can't help you there. I have heard that whey is the best for you, I don't know if you have a Vitamin Cottage out where you live, but that's where I got my protein mix. Lastly, really check the shit you put into your body in terms of vitamins, protein, creatine etc.... it can really screw you up if you take the wrong shit.

That's my two cents.
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4frnt_or_die
Posts: 780 - Karma: 3
Im sorry but English is not my first language, so by ''repetition range'' do you mean how much time per week or what?
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whattheshit
Posts: 6562 - Karma: 107
no like how many reps/sets

10 reps by 3 sets.

but really it depends on how much weight you are lifting. 

say 7 reps 3 sets with a lot of weight for strength  or 10 reps with 3 sets in low weight for muscle tone.
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4frnt_or_die
Posts: 780 - Karma: 3
oh well then i lift 3 sets of 12

i prefer less weight and more reps

unless we go for a ''who can lift the heavier'' then i just go for 1 or 2 reps lol
17 years ago
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JayDope
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This is the workout i do, there are no shoulder exercises becuase of my shoulder probelms in the past, working out ur chest and traps do work out ur shoulders anyway

Chest

FlatBench 5 sets 6-10 reps

InclineBench 5 sets 6-10 reps

FlatFlies 5 sets 6-10 reps

CableCrossovers 5 sets 6-10 reps

Dips4 sets to failure (add weight to a belt around your waist if necessary)

Back

Widegrip pull ups 6 sets to failure

T-barrows 5 sets 6-10 reps

Latpull down 4 sets 6-10 reps

Onearm dumbbell rows 4 sets 8-15 reps

Arms

Biceps

Hammercurls 3 sets 8-10 reps

Crossovercurls 3 sets 8-10 reps

Seatedbicep dumbbell curls 4 sets 8-10 reps

Preacherdumbbell curls 3 sets 6-10 reps (one arm at a time)

Triceps

Tricepull downs with the cable 3 sets 8-10 reps

Reversetricep pull downs 3 sets 8-10 reps

Nosebreakers4 sets 8-10 reps

Tricepkick-backs 3 sets 8-10 reps

WeightedDips 5 sets 8-10 reps

Closegrip bench press 3 sets 6-10 reps

Forearms

ReverseBicep curls 3 sets 8-10 reps (use ez-curl bar)

Wristcurls 3 sets 15 reps

Forearmtwists 3 sets 25 reps

Traps

DumbellShrugs 4 sets 25 reps

Barshrugs 3 sets 10 reps behind and infront so 3 sets of each

Farmerwalks 3 sets to failure

Legs

Squats4 sets 8-12 reps

Angledleg press 4 sets 8-12 reps

Quadextensions 4 sets 8-12 reps

Calveraises 3 sets of 15 reps

Calveextensions 3 sets 15 reps

Abdominals

Declinebench boxer situps 4 sets 20 reps

WeightedCrunch machine 3 sets 25 reps

Planks3 sets 1 minute (superset with crunch machine)

Medicineball twists 3 sets 30 reps

RomainChair 3 sets 15 reps

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notomatoplz
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oh well its funny how you said you train for pure strength rather than muscle growth when 12 reps is the optimal rep number for muscle growth, if you are training to get stronger you are gonna wanna be doing like a 5x5 program, google it.
17 years ago
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comeatmebro
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creatine sucks man. all it does is add water weight to your muscles, as soon as you get off of it it looks like your muscles get noticeably smaller. it suckssssss.

just use whey man. it's the best pretty much unless you start getting into a few other things.
17 years ago
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doritos
Posts: 7368 - Karma: 53
It's all about balancing, I do 1x15, 1x12, 1x8 and it works awesome.
17 years ago
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gmack24
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holy shit man when did you return... I've had solid gains using cell-tech, but if you stop lifting or taking it you lose everything so I stopped because I tend to go on random 5 day bingers sometimes,  I just rock amino acid pills now and lift like an animal and do mad cardio for my legs, def seeing big results
17 years ago
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4frnt_or_die
Posts: 780 - Karma: 3
to gain strenght or muscular endurance, you have to do 10-15 reps with less weight

to gain mass, you have toi do 7-10 reps with more weight


anyway i not studying in that so its all based on my football coach and our gym's trainer
17 years ago
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richards
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dude just make a protein shake befoer you work out and down it.
but only when you work out
17 years ago
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Edward.
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hahahaha. protein is all natural. and it does no harm to your body unless if you mix it with things that are unnatural
17 years ago
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Edward.
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well unless if you are constantly keeping yourself hydrated and peeing often it basically shrivels up your kidneys and shirnks them since all creatine does is regenerate your muscles by using up water in your body

17 years ago
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Lateralis
Posts: 1228 - Karma: 332

creatine isnt bad for you unless your always hydrated and your not drinking with it. i myself love booze way too much and i dont work out anymore because id rather drink everyday so dont be a fool and stay healthy

17 years ago
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shibby
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Just down some of this shit bro.

Not to thread jack but does anyone know anything about Vitamin B pills and HIIT's for training?
17 years ago
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