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Armada 2009 JP vs Juliens Stiffness (flex) Help
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hey guys...thinking about grabbin a pair of these for the season, im just wondering the flex in these...compared to lets say the Ep pro or Hellbent?? Thanks alot
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if anyone wants to get rid of a pair of 175cm also..let me know
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EP's are like the softest ski available so JJ's are definitely stiffer than them, and I'm pretty sure that they are stiffer than the Bents, although I'm not sure how much.
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whats the butterability?
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i think they are softish in the rocker, but stiff underfoot
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yea i know the eps and hellbents would obvs be softer im thinking..but could they be comparable to them..lil more stiffer??
any help would be sweet for those who have flexed them...ridden them..etc..
any shop reps that know this???
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review is in the sig.
Flex on these bad boys is really burly and quite stiff underfoot, but fairly loose in the rockered section. This makes it able to ski ice/crud without chattering so much, but also gives you the freedom to butter.
any questions, give me a shout.
Cheers,
Ryan
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Just picked mine up from the shop a couple hours ago! They feel so sick. The flex is nice, at least I think so. It's not a noodle by all means, but definitely not stiff at all. Playful would be a good word to describe them, and they feel suuuuper poppy as well. Plus you have to factor in the rocker as well, good luck in your choice! JJ's would be wise
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how many time have you had to say that in the last month, lol, thanks!
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heh, no dramas. Just doing my civic duty.
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i just got a look and flex of them today, super sick defiantly buying them asap. I found the flex was quite stiff under foot which is nice and mid soft in the rocker, but defiantly burly under foot as stated above.
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its definitly on the stiffer side of the rockered skis for sure
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09' JJs have soft tips and tails, but not as soft as the hellbents, definitely not EPs. They'd still be crazy good for jibbing in the pow.
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I rode 09 JJ's last season. THEY ARE STIFF. then again I'm only 165 lbs and 5'8" Ep's are the softest then the bents.
I'm in the same perdicament. I want something diff than bents cuz my buddy has them. The Ep's are real fun but just a bit too soft for my liking the JJ's are fucking sweet but a bit to stiff and the same for the chopsticks even though they are probably the lightest of the bunch. Maybe I'm just being a picky lil bitch, but I want some rocker, I'll probably end up with bents or chopsticks maybe even some praxis or maybe moments AHHHH this is tough
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pretty much already been said, but the are REAL stiff underfoot. softer tips
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^^^ yea man same boat....im 150lbs 5 7...i dont know what to gett!!!
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i felt them, they are not that soft, but were actually light. the rocker is almost non existent, so i don't think you could compare them to the hellbent
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well just looking at them you wont see it but when your shreddin you will definately feel the rocker man.
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nah, i have seths from a couple years back. I know they're wider with mini rock, now but I want something even more wider. I have Ak's right now
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JJs are definitely not stiff, but they are stifer than EP Pros and Hellbents. The JJs are medium-stiff underfoot, with quite soft tips and tails. I would NOT consider than I stiff ski. Defintely medium flex, possibly classified as soft.
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the seths this year have slightly more rocker than last year. It is pretty noticeable especially when you hold them base to base and push them together.
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Ya, a lot of kids on this site have never ridden a ski that is actually stiff, like real world stiff, not ns stiff. Not that it's a bad thing or anything, but there are some stiff motherfucking skis out there like XXL's and Bandits.
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The flex is pretty damn nice. Definitely stiffer then Ep's or Hellbents. Biggest difference is "noodleness". If you stand up a Hellbent or EP and shake it, the ski will flap around everywhere. That is fine for Powder and buttering and actually probably beneficial. The JJ's are definitely more solid in the flex, but by no means stiff.
If you are looking for a jib ski, the JJ is probably not what I would look at.
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I think the JJs are stiff. my opinion. I think their flex is real damn close to, if not the same, as the ARG.
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