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Wilmot Mountain Terrain park

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concept311
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Top stop the Hi Jacking of the Cascade thread I just made this one.

to anwser IRIDEWI POSTS
(I really hate to be hijacking the Cascade Thread, but in reference to wilmot, could we get some rails with street style takeoffs this season? like the down rails that were at the top of last years park)

Where you talking about the box top Rail and the double barrel Rail that was at the top of the park most of the season?

was it this one?
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Sep 14 2008 9:38PM
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Pman13a
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when i went to wilmot last year a couple times i thought they had a really good selection of stuff
however almost nothing was maintained so that kind of negated the positive of having a lot of things

but hopefully you get more of a park crew their this year squirrel
Sep 15 2008 3:22PM
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HPskier
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il be down to help maintain but im gona apply for a job at viking in chicago so if that doesn't work out i think i can help with park crew, but not sure yet
Sep 15 2008 5:26PM
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IrideWI
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yes! haha thanks for making a new thread, now we can pool ideas about the parks this season. But in reference to the photo, that is one of the two rails that I was talking about. It was fun last season and a really smooth rail but it might be cool if some rails were set up street style, kind of like the huge down rail but more mellow? (kinda hard to explain I will try to find some photos). Im gonna be riding wilmot mostly on saturdays this season, and on a pretty regular basis, so if your gonna be there on a saturday, just message me sometime before then and il be down to help set up shit on a saturday.
Sep 15 2008 7:52PM
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jibgilmon
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im deff going for park crew haha
Sep 15 2008 9:39PM
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IrideWI
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kinda like this?

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the way that the beginning of the rail is even before the take off, and then the street style takeoff sort of comes up onto the side of it, but after about 1-2 feet of the rail itself. Kinda hard to explain, not sure if you get what im saying, but a mellow down rail for learning spins onto would be dope. Also, you guys have sick boxes, especially the setup for that rail jam with the huge gap to flat and flat down box, and large down rail. If the setup was like that all season, it would be dope. The flatdown box that you had setup was perfect dimensions, angles, and everything! The only thing that I would reccomend fixing would be building bigger takeoffs onto some of the larger rails. 
Sep 15 2008 10:08PM
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jibgilmon
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I agree with Ian squirrel, this wuld be so sick if wilmot made this and kept up with the lip
Sep 15 2008 10:12PM
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HPskier
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hell ya that would be sick to have some more rails like that at wilmot
Sep 15 2008 10:31PM
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concept311
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those are all great idea's we could easily  put that rail like that. That rail in the picture was at vail I remember that one from when i worked there. was set up on a pretty good pitch in the park so it worked perfect.


Next question

Hip or quater pipe?
Sep 16 2008 12:50AM
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jibgilmon
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Better question: Will it be maintained?
If the park crew (hopefully I'll be on it lol) can maintain it, and we get to snow to make it double sided so hip is both ways, I'd suggest a combo like this but smaller cuz wisco/ill sucks on the border for reliable snow lol

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Sep 16 2008 1:05AM
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japanada
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No 1/4 pipe. Upkeep would be a bitch. I remember when I worked there and even with the pipe dragon they couldnt up keep and 1/2 or 1/4 pipe.

A hip would be really fun, especially if you could land on both sides.
Sep 16 2008 2:13AM
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jibgilmon
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ya hes right, if its too much work just make a hip thts useable both ways thtd b sick enough
Sep 16 2008 2:39AM
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IrideWI
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defenitely a hip
Sep 16 2008 7:52AM
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Reed.
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a hip you can take straight if you want to.
Sep 16 2008 1:02PM
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HPskier
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ya a hip for sure, not enough snow for a qp
Sep 16 2008 5:13PM
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concept311
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I was thinking the same thing about a hip i think more people would use it. And a Qp would be hard to maintain. Maintenance on a hip seems like it would a lot easy. given we  can get enough cat time.  The guy who is going to be the park manger this season lives 8 mins from wilmot and will be out there alot so everything should be maintened pretty good.

Park Crews Job will be to Redo/Fix 2 features every day. 
Sep 16 2008 10:01PM
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jibgilmon
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sounds sick man.... and bout the crew wut do u know about extras? like season pass or anything lol
Sep 16 2008 11:20PM
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HPskier
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HE WANTS TO KNOW IF YOU GET PAID!!!!!!!
Sep 17 2008 12:00AM
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jibgilmon
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dude i already know tht theres pay..... and its not polite to ask what it is unless ur on the spot applying lol
Sep 17 2008 12:40AM
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concept311
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that i'm not sure. as far as pay goes. its still so new i'm sure they don't have all the deatails worked out one of the guys was still trying to talk to managment and have them aprove a budget for it.

I do know that you get a free pass. which all employees get.
Sep 17 2008 1:36AM
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japanada
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Id imagine that you would get paid, I know when me and powdahchowda worked there teaching and being part of the 'park crew' we got paid.
Sep 17 2008 2:16AM
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concept311
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Yeah Chris there trying to separated it a little bit from ski school this year.
Sep 17 2008 2:24AM
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japanada
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Thats good. Hopefully they will get enough guys so that there is always someone there.
Sep 17 2008 10:31AM
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HPskier
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i was jk i wouldent care what the pay was it would be a sick job
Sep 17 2008 6:27PM
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-PowAir-
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so wilmot is finally getting a new cat? About time.....i love seeing the old tuckers cruise around...thats wilmots signature.
Sep 19 2008 1:43PM
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japanada
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True that! I remember when I worked there and it always seemed that wilmot was a few years behind everyone else.
Sep 19 2008 9:06PM
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concept311
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When i was at the MSAA Fall Seminar which is the Midwest Ski Area Association's. Everyone was asking what we had for snowmaking  and grooming. Everyone laughed when we told them how old some of the machines where that we had. But yes should be sick with a new groomer. Hopeful I will be able to take that or use the Br 275 when ever we need it. Last winter was a bitch trying to get cat time cause they only had one good grooming machine.

Wilmot has some of if not they oldest snowmaking Lines (Pipes) in the country.
Sep 19 2008 9:33PM
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HPskier
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word wilmot's stuff is super outdated
Sep 19 2008 10:58PM
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IrideWI
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I might draw up some ideas for the park...shall post up later
Sep 28 2008 3:22PM
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jibgilmon
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awesome dude sounds sick and dont forget the main park (where it normally is) is pretty much no jumps this year because theyre getting moved to sundance/or another steep run ;)
Sep 28 2008 4:20PM
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HPskier
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yo get a dfd box, that would be so sick to like press and stuff
Sep 28 2008 4:26PM
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concept311
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I still think there needs to  be a jump on hideway where the normal park is kind of sucked last year not having one. atleast if i have my way there will be one.
Sep 28 2008 7:00PM
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HPskier
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i think there was a jump at some point in the main park, but it was hard to get speed for it
Sep 28 2008 7:39PM
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concept311
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yeah i'm sure there was but i'm sure it sucked. not my doing.
Sep 28 2008 7:54PM
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jibgilmon
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ya there was two, and they took them out and changed some thigns around to get speed for the a frame nd other stuff.... but ya i guess they need like one but whats the point? theres no room and no speed. IF they still have a mini area for the tiny rails like they did last year above that green run i think they shuld put a small one there if possible
Sep 28 2008 7:55PM
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IrideWI
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where those three rails were above broadway? that would be a horrible place for a jump
Sep 28 2008 8:07PM
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concept311
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Here is a map of where the parks are going to be for this season. Of course like always things can change.

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Sep 28 2008 8:28PM
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IrideWI
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I like that plan...ALOT. It just came to mind a few minutes ago that another thing worth improving this year might be somehow keeping families and ski school kids from going on the takeoffs for the rails and jumps, etc...not sure if that is really possible but thought it might be a good idea...
Sep 28 2008 8:42PM
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jibgilmon
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ya that is a good plan and ians right there isnt much snow to make good take offs in the first place so we dont really need them caving them or ruining the lip lol
Sep 28 2008 9:08PM
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IrideWI
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does anybody have photos of wilmot's rail collection?
Sep 28 2008 9:11PM
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HPskier
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ya check out concepts photos there one thats like wilmot rails or somthin
Sep 28 2008 9:27PM
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IrideWI
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i cant draw to save my life
Sep 28 2008 10:52PM
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jibgilmon
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it doesnt need to look good as long as we get what ur doing lol. and btw if u have the time to deal with it it might be easier to make in google sketchup

Sep 28 2008 11:25PM
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HPskier
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haha wut?
Sep 28 2008 11:57PM
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japanada
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Ive always thought that sundance would be sick for some jumps. We used to build little kickers their back in the day.
Sep 29 2008 1:07AM
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jibgilmon
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ya dude its pretty good thts where they had the big air i think. it might've been the one next to it tho i dunno
Sep 29 2008 1:41AM
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japanada
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The big air is on supieor right before the head wall. Sundance is skiers left.
Sep 29 2008 10:34AM
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OAK_TREE
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That would be a good idea if Wilmot wanted to have jumps. It seems like they are all for the rails but not the jumps. Like the last few years it seems to me that they have gotten more rails/boxes which is dope but have really let the jumps go. I feel that they should just improve on making the jumps better. By better I mean make them with a take off and a landing. last year (which was a bad year for jumps at wilmot) it seemed like there was no landing for the jumps.

I like the plan Concept, I hope Wilmot this year will be dope and I will be going there a few times at least. But Reed, I don't think that Sundance will have any jumps this year.

Does anyone know if Sunburst Passes are still good for 50% off lift ticket prices. That was a really nice promotion to have.
Sep 29 2008 10:57AM
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OAK_TREE
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Upon further review I have switched my mind and agree with Reed. Wilmot should move the jump line (yeah line) to the run skiers left of Superior. That way there can be a multiple jump line close to ski patrol so if anyone does get injured ski patrol is right there. I'm thinking they could have a real nice sized line of about 3 to 4 jumps. They don't have to be big but don't make them small. A good size would be about 25-40 feet. I know I'm missing a bunch of stuff that I had thought of earlier but that is all for now.
Sep 29 2008 4:49PM
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HPskier
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it should be a line there's enough pitch to put two or three jumps there
Sep 29 2008 5:31PM
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concept311
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