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National Pot Growing Parks

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BMskier
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okay i thought this was a little funny so i decided to share. its kindof interestiong also.

mexicans are growing pot in national parks. its awesome. please read.

http://news.aol.com/article/most-pot-grown-on-public-land/171911


thats all.

Sep 14 2008 8:54PM
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anthony_B
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WONDERFUL
Sep 14 2008 8:56PM
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solitaryman
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Hahahaha "The plants are endangering visitors" what is this world coming to.
Sep 14 2008 8:57PM
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A_Davis
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in that case i would love to be endangered
Sep 14 2008 9:03PM
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Campeador
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Bogus report. The people who do this want to leave as little evidence as possible that they were ever there, so as to be able to use the spot again. They do indeed carry guns, but only to protect their crop from gang bangers, its self defense. In actuality, they're far more afraid of you than you should be of them.
Sep 14 2008 9:06PM
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Gnarshred
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its lame they are leaving trash all over the place though... We need some hippies doing this, not mexicans.
Sep 14 2008 9:06PM
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Parkboy
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bogus report?  you're a fucking idiot.  a group of these assholes with the mexican cartel just got busted near the area where my girlfriend lives.  they try to target people with a lot of property so if they get caught they try to frame the property owners.  this isn't a little dippy hippy pot growing pastime it's a massive drug operation that you and apparently many other dumb fucks in this thread have no clue about. 
Sep 14 2008 9:25PM
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Dukeybrains
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Yeah but who's tryna smoke that herme mexican ditch weed
Sep 14 2008 9:34PM
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Campeador
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I know Mexican people who do it, and they're not bad people. I disagree with Cartels but for the majority who do it, its between growing some pot in the forest and making an amount of money they can live on, or picking fruit in the scorching San Joaquin Valley heat and not making shit. Show me one report where someone has been framed by illegal mexicans growing pot on their property.


Sep 14 2008 9:34PM
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jholer2
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This is really sad news to me. I've never really been able to think of a downside to smoking, but destroying national park land is pretty terrible. Maybe the weed i smoke doesn't come from these areas, but knowing that there is a possibility makes me, for the first time, really question smoking. I'm still not gonna stop, but this is a huge bummer.
Sep 14 2008 9:34PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Agreed with you and parkboy for sure.
Sep 14 2008 9:37PM
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Rajna
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that's why you gotta smoke that indoor dank...
Sep 14 2008 9:47PM
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coolhandluke
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eastern washington is number two behind california for these huge thousand-plant busts.  hiking in the pasayten wilderness now gives you illegal mexicans with guns protecting their grow ops to deal with besides the normal wildlife.  thats far away from the san joaquin valley. 



the article here seems to infer framing of others:
"The Yakima Valley is a huge player. These are big operations that are difficult to track down," Beghtol said. "They use fictitious names, they put property in daughters', wives' names to conceal identity and try to thwart law enforcement from going forward with civil forfeiture."
Sep 14 2008 10:01PM
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natedogg789435
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beautiful
Sep 14 2008 10:08PM
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ElChapoTrapHaus
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what about if we took the power of the plant away from cartels and organized crime. The current U.S. drug policy is what helps to make this possible.  Strict laws on cannabis, are what makes it so valuable. The value of pot is what brings in the criminal element. Every model of legalization/decriminalization is going to have it's flaws, but it can't get too much worse than the current recourse of the laws we have now.   I don't think you would see Mexican people hauling grow supplies into national forests with guns, trashing the area.  Enforcement will not stop the problem. People that love their smoke, will always smoke.  People that see a way to take advantage of an open black market , always will.
Legalize it.

Sep 14 2008 10:13PM
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poh_money
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they are like wolves haha
Sep 14 2008 10:15PM
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Peter.
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haha crazy mexicans

how does a plant "endanger" the people? unless they are lighting them on fire for some reason
Sep 14 2008 10:23PM
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tBatt
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ahahaha
"Last month, officials burned thousands of marijuana plants seized in Cook County"

sounds like a pretty sick job to me...
Sep 14 2008 10:29PM
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NomenClature
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you have NO CLUE what your talking about.

People from Mexico, and the Mexican CARTELS have almost NOTHING to do with each other, so familiarity with one does not make you an expert on the other
(kinds sounds like the sara palin 'I can see russia" response)

The migratory Mexican Population is occasionally employed by massive grows, but they are also employed by the same groups to produce Meth in so called "superlabs" which run on diverted chemicals from Mexico because of their size.  Mexican illegals would be the ones digging holes, running water lines, and harvesting the crop (they wouldn't be at the grow for the whole summer, nor would they be the ones employed to protect it.  (in short, your mexican buddies have nothing to do with OPs of this magnitude)

Your mexican friends probably do grow reasonable plots that do not destroy the land, but you dont really seem to understand the logic put forth by the opponents of these operations. (as they are not talking about tiny little 50 plant grows)
    -The land they plant on is not theirs, which means that anything they do to the land is considered DAMAGE.
    -They Divert all of the water from the surrounding area to their grows, this is VERY BAD for the forest/wildlife.
    -They use fertilizers and other agricultural products in protected wilderness zones, this tends to produce burdensome (to the land and water table) plant growth.


Ever heard of a legal concept called "plausible deniability"? well, its the reason why they plant on others land, not to induce an ill-fated investigation against someone who obviously did nothing wrong.
Sep 14 2008 11:31PM
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[~_~]
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You call that destroying? I think confiscating the plants is "destroying."
Sep 14 2008 11:33PM
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jholer2
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I do call that destroying. Damming creeks, growing non-native plants (regardless of their magical powers), and trashing the area in general, in a national park is not really that cool in my book. National parks are preserved for a reason, and the way things are going they're going to be the only natural places left. I don't necessarily blame the growers because i think weed should be legal anyway. I'm just disappointed that it has come this far.
Sep 14 2008 11:41PM
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SHastatahoe
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http://www.redding.com/news/2008/sep/13/pot-raids-net-another-record/

This is where I live.  Every year they set records, and pull millions of dollars in plants.  It is a huge problem because our town is surrounded by parks.  We have all grown up to know not to just wander into the woods around these places that we visit with our families.  I have no problem with people smoking pot, but this shit is getting out of hand.  Firefighters come across gardens all the time, and have to be very carefull.  We had major fires this summer in some of the parks, and several mexican growers were killed because they had no where to go. 

A lot of people, even those who don't smoke pot, believe that legalization will stop this trouble.  I think it will too.  These places are frequented by families, and it endangers the american people.  There is too much money involved, and the cartels are not going to stop growing because of law enforcement.  They are not losing any money sending illegals up here to watch a garden. 
Sep 14 2008 11:42PM
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k-rob
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bahahahahaha crazy cartels. at least they're catching them.
Sep 14 2008 11:48PM
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lushlaxstr
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ha sick
Sep 15 2008 1:01AM
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skithesprings
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"Last month, officials burned thousands of marijuana plants seized in Cook County"

how would i go about applying for this job?
Sep 15 2008 1:13AM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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Here's a tidbit on just how long this shit has been going on and for how long they've been doing it.  It's not uncommon in Northern California.  Keep in mind, this is only one single county in northern california.

Mexican Nationals are seriously just that dumb.  Hmm lets grow hundreds of thousand of pots plants in an area where their shade of green stands out like a sore thumb when the whole rest of the surroundingforest is pine trees and manazanita mostly.

read it

http://www.redding.com/news/2008/sep/13/pot-raids-net-another-record/
Sep 15 2008 1:22AM
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SHastatahoe
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buck, scroll up like 4 posts and read mine, you are stealing my content, bitch.  jk.  when will you be in chico/redding next?
Sep 15 2008 1:53AM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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wow you're right.  its been a long two weeks and I have a lazy habit of not wanting to read all the replies. as soon as i saw this thread pop-up it made me go straight to redding.com.  It's like a natural alarm goes off:    its september, let the raiding begin.  wonder what the nubmers are gonna be for this years new record.  its amazing where the funding dollars come from to do this shit.
Sep 15 2008 2:02AM
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SHastatahoe
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Yeah, but then you see all the excess money funneled into RPD.  Then RPD rolls 4 cars deep on a speeding stop,to check for meth in the grandmas whip.   

Either way, its cool watching blackhawks flying around town.  The funny thing is that we probably have never smoked any of the ganja grown around here
Sep 15 2008 3:31PM
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spudz
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you would think that POTHEAD!
Sep 15 2008 4:49PM
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BOONE_SKIS
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I always ask myself, why don't we ever stumble upon shit like this when we're in the national parks? We always miss out. damn. ha ha.
Sep 15 2008 5:11PM
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BMskier
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do you know how clutch of a find that would be idk say on a college orientation camping trip or somthing?
Sep 15 2008 7:59PM
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TheButterHashira
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Its like in that movie without a paddle. I don't know if they were in a national park though.
Sep 15 2008 8:06PM
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BOONE_SKIS
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If that ever happened the park rangers would be able to find them by smoke signal...
Sep 16 2008 2:57AM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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don't buy pot, it supports cock fighting. lol

http://www.redding.com/news/2008/oct/31/pot-raid-uncovers-alleged-cockfighting-ring/
Nov 2 2008 3:36PM
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RICK_ROSS
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haha
Nov 2 2008 4:06PM
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DaveCoulier
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Searchbar noob
Nov 2 2008 5:37PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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You's a bitch.
Nov 2 2008 5:38PM
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Ski_Midwest
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might have to go for a nice hike this weekend...lol
Nov 2 2008 5:52PM
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