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DIN range question (probably easy)

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SkiMN
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Currently, my skis have PX12 JIB's on them, so it's a 12 din binding. The shop had them set at 9 about half way through last year. I am not any taller than I was than, and I am in the same boots, but I have gained weight, and may continue to do so. I don't know how much fatter I have to get to push it up, but if that puts me up to 10, should I be looking at a 4-14 din range on my next pair of skis?
Sep 13 2008 8:52PM
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Aenigma
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You'll release just fine at 10, you just might notice that it's not quite as smooth.  Once you start getting to 11 you will want to be looking at a higher DIN, however.
Sep 13 2008 9:00PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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If youre about 6'9" and like 220 lbs maybe MAYBE ur shop would put you at 9.

Id go to another shop and get a second opinion.
Sep 13 2008 9:42PM
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SkiMN
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Um, no. There is a reason I didn't bother with any of my stats, you can't make judgments about din over the internet. It isn't all about your size.

I would also have you know that the last time I got these skis mounted the shop put them at 8, that was prior to last season. I was 6'1" 1-something at the time. Midway through last season I got a remount at a different shop. Having gained weight, that shop had me up to what looks to me like 9 on the scale.

Also, if I had to guess, I would say that there wouldn't be many 4-14 din bindings out there if you had to be 6'9" and 220 just to ride at 11.
Sep 13 2008 9:54PM
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Cant-Er
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Sep 13 2008 10:01PM
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Cant-Er
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sorry to post again but i posted a din chart above ^^and if you have any questions about it let me know... i do all most all the Binding Release Checks at my shop so i know a little about bindings...

but if two shops are getting two different DIN's it is probably b/c one shop is using a different DIN Chart.  im not sure if this is a fact or not but i compared one older chart to a newer one and the older one produced higher DIN's...  we received a new DIN chart today at the shop so from what i know they update them every year.  

if you have any more questions that i may be able to answer just pm me or something.... later hope this helped.
Sep 13 2008 10:08PM
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Myfirstname.
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m not saying it will work perfectly for you, but this came to the exact same din i hade my looks set at. Not sure that a din 10 for lokks and markers is the same though.

http://www.dinsetting.com/
Sep 14 2008 12:27AM
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wiglaf
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At the bottom of that chart it says its for type I skiers. You should post the chart for type III, i think more people would find that useful.

Sep 14 2008 2:52AM
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LC.
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there is nothing wrong with riding a 12 din binding at 12.
Sep 14 2008 3:54AM
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PacificRimJob
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definitely depends on the binding.

Buddy of mine was usin some Z12ti's, turned all the way up.

released so harshly. lol.
Sep 14 2008 7:19AM
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no_steeze
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you don't want to ever max out the din range or be one from the top, 10 is safe but any higher is too much for the binding. also i'm really surprised your shop put you at 9 unless they're race skis but nobody would use 12 din race bindings, shops like to put you at like 4 of 5
Sep 14 2008 11:52AM
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Cant-Er
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if you are a type II skier you just go down one letter and if you are a type III skier you bump down two letters... hope that makes sense.  pm me w/ any questions. later
Sep 14 2008 1:19PM
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A_Longley
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i'm 5'9" ans 72kg and 158lbs my din setting is 12 and my bindings have a range of 8-18
mojo 18x bindings are sick
Sep 14 2008 3:00PM
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Cant-Er
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just to clarify all i was trying to do is explain how a din chart is used... i in no means was intending for ppl to use this din chart and set their own din... you should have your bindings worked on by a shop and certified binding technicians... and have them Binding Release Checked anually, which can also be done at your local shop for fairly cheap. i work on many bindings a year at a local shop as a certified binding tech and have seen some really bad stuff come in and just want to make it clear i completely understand the liabilities of bindings and wasnt intending to create any liabilities... so yeah just go to your local shop and let them fuss w/ your bindings it is at most places pretty inexpensive from my understanding... hope this clears things up, later.
Sep 14 2008 9:06PM
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Avifarer
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I was at the shop today and the guy told me you should never have your din over 80% of the max din. I probably didnt word that right so...if you have a 10 din binding dont be riding over 8.
Sep 14 2008 9:14PM
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LC.
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Again, not true at all. A lot of people say this with no real reason. Bindings have to release predictably at all values or else manufacturers and shops would just be opening the door for lawsuits. The only reason to get a 12 din if you ride at 10 is so that you have a little room to crank them up if you want to at some point.
Sep 14 2008 9:20PM
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Silence
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No such thing.
Sep 14 2008 9:24PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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as unsafe as it is i usually adjust my own din according to my riding style. i start my din a little lower and through out the day adjust them to how easy im coming out. im 5'7 135 lbs and my heel is at 7.5 and my toe at 8.
Sep 14 2008 9:29PM
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SkiMN
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Ok so I use that chart and I'm not very far off what I thought I read on the bindings. I could easily have missed my guess at what the binding said by that same amount.  That said, I released just fine (smoothly and in a very timely fashion) at whatever DIN the shop had me at. Let it suffice to say that I'm not getting any smaller, so unless I gain 4 shoe sizes on my feet my DIN won't be going down. I'm pretty comfy with my looks even if I did have to get em tightened, but I have new skis on the way and I need new bindings anyways. Is an 8 (conservative guesstimate) the same on a 3.5-12 as it is on a 4-14?
Sep 14 2008 9:32PM
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Silence
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Sorry to say it, and i'm not posting here to hate on anyone in particular but there is so much rubbish information posted in this thread with the exception of bindings designed to release reliably (with a certain margin for error) at all points of the DIN range.
No issue with people adjusting their own DIN, privided they know what they are doing and don't try to shift liability onto someone else when they break their knee..It's stupid though, you should just get a shop to do it.
Not everything is about DIN either - peeps think that when you release on a din of 10 then just crank it higher and all is good..often something as simple as forward pressure needs adjustment and then a DIN of 7 would release perfectly well

You should look at this
https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/353082/





Sep 14 2008 9:42PM
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Silence
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Without getting technical, yes.
Sep 14 2008 9:45PM
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Hedekar
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Here it is again, for those who might have missed it the first time around.
Sep 14 2008 11:07PM
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SkiMN
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If you would like to get technical, I'm listening. I've heard rules of thumb like one or two from the top and bottom of the range, but I don't totally understand the implications of being higher vs lower in the range.

I was reading the sticky as I went over this thread the last time. I thought that this thread was safe, until that DIN table go posted. While that is entertaining, I should have used hypothetical DIN's in my original post. Either way, I'm not open to suggestions on where to set my DIN, or even whether or not the shop did it right, because this is the internet, its good for opinions and thats it.
Sep 14 2008 11:19PM
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Videogroove
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Hello guys

I need your opinion if it is possible :)

My weight 88 kg, height 176 cm

With this characteristics of body can I use bindings with DIN range till 16-18?

FKS 180
Salomon STH 16
or
Marker Jester 16

It is good idea or it too much DIN for me?

K+ for all people who write useful replies ))

Thanks in advance for replies!
Jul 31 2013 3:20AM
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-SnowSnoli-
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No offense but if you are a competent ski man, You would know most charts are complete bullshit as they do not have all the factors accounted for when setting someones din.

While a good base to go from... most the time charts are wrong.
Jul 31 2013 3:43AM
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tomPietrowski
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But they give an exteamly good starting point. What's more inportant though is the guy did not give enough information to work out his din. We also need his BSL, age and an idea I skier type. I agree din charts will often give a lower setting then you will end up using but they give a goo starting point.
Jul 31 2013 5:14AM
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BWalmer
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This is possibly the most miss-informing thread I've seen in GT in a while...and it sucks that "industry" folk are adding to it...

OP, just do whatever your trusted (this is a key word) shop tech tells you, if he says you'll be fine, go with that, if he recommends new bindings, go with that. There's a lot of personal preference when it comes to bindings that people try to push on others that just leads to false info, but your tech shouldn't steer you wrong. Also note, sales rep =/= shop tech...the sales rep will almost always just try and sell you new bindings (since that's their job), ask to speak to the actual tech who will be working on your skis.
Jul 31 2013 9:09AM
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BWalmer
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Holy fuck, I just realized this thread was from 08...you've probably got it figured out by now, haha.
Jul 31 2013 9:10AM
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tomPietrowski
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Was just about to say that bwalmer I was replying to the guy who asked a question just a couple of posts up.
Jul 31 2013 9:24AM
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