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What has Obama done?

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Ski1erman
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why do you like obama?

what has he done?


what is change?


does he have a proven track record of change?


what are some of your concerns?


what about all the "gaffs"

"my Muslim faith"

"57 states" 

"typical white person"

"cling to guns, ect"


how has obama led?

what is obama's tax plan?

what is his energy plan?



NS make the best case you can for Obama!



Sep 10 2008 7:17PM
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RudyGarmisch
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He isnt republican.
Sep 10 2008 7:19PM
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Ski1erman
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shallow, and utterly pathetic reason.
Sep 10 2008 7:20PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Its actually not. In a two party system, you're basically left with the choice "who will fuck this nation up the least?"

As to why I think we need a democrat in the white house, might I refer you to the seven terrible years of a republican controlled house, senate and executive branch?
Sep 10 2008 7:28PM
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funk.
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When you are left with two options this is so god damn true.
Sep 10 2008 7:29PM
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Parkboy
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duh, mccain is a maverick, haven't you seen his campaign ads
Sep 10 2008 7:35PM
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k-rob
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i think it's funny that you ask people to make a case for Obama before making a case for McCain. in fact i think it's pretty freakin' hilarious. I am currently laughing my ass off.
Sep 10 2008 7:39PM
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artfullydodged
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Obama needs to be president... but not meow, we're in debt and the economy is not where it should be, we need a prez the will focus on the finances of our country instead of dumping billions into "change" or a war. you dont fix up the aesthetics of a car when the engine is hardly running.
Sep 10 2008 7:51PM
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freezed
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he's a vietnam vet. if you don't like him, you're unpatriotic.
Sep 10 2008 7:51PM
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fsscott
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dude he's black, ... that's all i need to vote for him!!!

cept i can't...

oh! and i heard that mcain drifts??? thats what my rents said
Sep 10 2008 7:56PM
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beer.
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reform the tax code, eliminate corporate loopholes, eliminate bush's tax cuts for the top 2 percent of our country

get the fuck out of here.
Sep 10 2008 7:56PM
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Bob_Gnarley
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Five years of republican controlled house and senate. The last three years have been controlled by your democrat friends.
Sep 10 2008 8:02PM
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RudyGarmisch
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The senate and house were taken in 2006. And really, the legislation democrats have actually gotten out of there into effect has been relatively nil cause our executive branch veto's everything.
Sep 10 2008 8:08PM
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hellomynameisjef
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watch the news

Sep 10 2008 8:08PM
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skiminnesota
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you know what rowen.... most of the time i respect you...

but this is just fucking stupid... 


you know what ? two can play at this game... the biggest thing mccain has GOING FOR HIM is the fact that he doesnt have D next to his name...


do you see how fucking stupid that sounds?

disagree with someone on a matter of issues, but party names? not so much....


vote based on values, ideas, proven track records, ect... but party names? now thats just shallow....


o, milf, war vet in 08! 

see what im getting at?
Sep 10 2008 8:10PM
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ATLskier
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didn't it originate when there were just the federalist and anti federalists in the beginning.

Sep 10 2008 8:12PM
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ATLskier
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shit, somehow I hit reply on accident, so add a question mark on my post, and I guess it was too hard for someone else to branch off to create a successful party that would last.
Sep 10 2008 8:13PM
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Melvs
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Would replacing "republican" with "neo-con" or one who falls in line with neo-cons be more acceptable, because that's more what it is.  Though it seems like the whole party has been taken over by it, so maybe republican does work.
Sep 10 2008 8:15PM
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Malcolm
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i would definitly vote for obama if i was was 18 and american. and i heard his tax plan is shit but thats just to try and make up for all the other presidents mistakes. i could be wrong but i dont really pay much attention to american politics. i actually know more about american politics than canadian

Sep 10 2008 8:17PM
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skiminnesota
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ummm dont know if you have got the memo, but mccain is hardly a conservative.... neo con? how bout i call obama a left wing nut case? or a socialsit....

really lets judge based on ideals, names are just that, names....

he is a liberal Republican.... (mccain)
Sep 10 2008 8:17PM
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skiminnesota
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and if you dont vote for palin, you are clearly sexist...

and if you dont vote for obama you are clearly racist.....
Sep 10 2008 8:19PM
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skiminnesota
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o, and i find it hilarious that there hasnt been one "pro obama" based on ideas post in here....


if someone wants to make a pro mccain thread, ill do my best to bring up good things about him.... but there are no "look obama has done this, this and this"  posts... all i see is "dont vote for the old man" posts
Sep 10 2008 8:22PM
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Melvs
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not a neo con by definition, but like I said, he seems to fall right in line with them when it comes to government. 
Sep 10 2008 8:22PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Thats right, because you dont make trite and terse remarks, ever.

I could get into all of the nuances that make up my opinion, but if you asked me to summarize in one sentence, that'd be it. Do you seriously think I arbitrarily base my political opinion on how the word 'republican' or 'democrat' sounds? Please...
Sep 10 2008 8:22PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Bullshit, half of your posts are about how bad Obama would be.
Sep 10 2008 8:25PM
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skiminnesota
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well i dont think i have ever posted "he isnt democrat"  dun dun dun! 



really go through the nuances... i would love to know how you think, and why you think the way you do...


you wont see me ripping YOU appart, i might go after some of stuff you might post... but really. parties?

let it be known   I HATE REPUBLICANS
Sep 10 2008 8:25PM
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skiminnesota
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yeah, in other threads....


but if you make a "what has mccain done" thread, ill post pro mccain, not anti obama...


this is a "pro obama" thread, not "anti mccain"



Sep 10 2008 8:27PM
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CMF
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when he said 57 states he was refering to guam, puerto rico and the other US territories. I'd be interested in a cited source on the muslim faith quote, although, i really don't care, it's apparent he is not a muslim.

Sep 10 2008 8:29PM
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RudyGarmisch
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You know what, while I'm doing my research study for the next two hours, go and read what I posted after my original comment.
Sep 10 2008 8:30PM
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Ski1erman
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Sep 10 2008 8:32PM
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Shpadoinkle
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No, his wife and son do, but that's what I head from my Dad who knows nothing about drifting. He actually called it drafting until I caught on.
Sep 10 2008 8:35PM
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beer.
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except for mine.  but you didn't read it, obviously.

there's plenty of reasons to vote for obama.  go to his website, you fucking idiot.  he has outlined his policies and stands on issues very clearly, and I support them.
Sep 10 2008 8:39PM
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skiminnesota
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your thread?


bring it back.....


Sep 10 2008 8:47PM
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