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Possibly the most sad moment in getting my new skis

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A-Style**
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just got my anthems in the mail. they AMAZING i just stare at them all day.

howevverrrr, i almost cried when i saw the MADE IN CHINA sticker on the base. i know thats where like all skis are made, but it soo sad :( :( :(

any1 else feel the same way as me? heartbroken?
Sep 4 2008 2:42PM
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Aaaron.
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my skis are made in france
but that is what you get for supporting a K2 child company
should have bought moments...
how does MADE IN NEVADA sound to you?
Sep 4 2008 2:44PM
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A-Style**
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they should say MADE IN THE MOUNTAINS thatd make me happy
Sep 4 2008 2:51PM
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skiRay
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my K2smade in china (sick skis and still bombproof)

armadas made in austria (best skis eva)

and my new pair is handmade in reno nevada
Sep 4 2008 3:04PM
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theres_ghosts
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i took that sticker off mine and i never speak of it



ever
Sep 4 2008 3:15PM
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TimmyK
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very few skis are made in europe or the us anymore, k2 when they sent production overseas in i think it was 02 or 03 they actually had a increase in quality, well what they were saying
Sep 4 2008 3:18PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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oh no your skis were manufactured by a highly trained person in a highly controlled manufacturing facility for a cheaper cost than it would be to have them made in the us. boohooo.

get over the 80's rhetoric and live in the now man!
Sep 4 2008 3:48PM
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b-kul
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so a chinese ski is inferior to a u.s. made one?
Sep 4 2008 4:21PM
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eurotune2
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i second this, our worlds getting smaller you gotta do what ya can to stay ahead, manufacturing in china makes it easier for us to afford the skis, i am all for that until im out of school and can spend more on then, then maybe ill support a small/local company with "better quality"
Sep 4 2008 4:57PM
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cobra_commander
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my skis were made in Tacoma.
Sep 4 2008 5:31PM
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m.brus
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try not to lick your skis because you may get some poisoning from the lead paint...safety first
Sep 4 2008 6:39PM
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holyDINOSAURS
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at the atomic factory!

but yeah, almost all skis are made in europe. you just chose a k2 company
Sep 4 2008 7:43PM
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joystickpimp
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Ya i will never buy k2 or their child companies. Do u really think some chinese guy that is making half a penny an hour gives a shit about the quality of the ski he is making for a rich white guy. Outsourcing is for pussies. Plus that chinese guy is taking a job that you might want someday, because u love skiing and have enthusiasm for the sport, But NO some guy that lives in a communist country is making your skis.
Sep 4 2008 8:57PM
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A-Style**
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well i mean it was just like ah so un-steeze. haha but i dont realllllyyyy care where they made, its just how well the ski is made and such. look at lexus and acura, both helllaaa nice car companies, both made in like china (right?)
plus, i doubt k2, being one of the biggest world wide ski distributors, is going to let some rando chinese guy jizz on my skis and call them done. pretty sure they, and line, wouldn't have the good rep they do if that were happening
Sep 4 2008 10:04PM
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eurotune2
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you where close with china, acura and lexus are made in japan, IE: honda and toyota
Sep 4 2008 10:10PM
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no_steeze
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HANDMADE IN RENO, NV BITCHES
Sep 4 2008 10:10PM
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phishfood
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Sep 4 2008 10:14PM
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cobra_commander
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the china men do a pretty damn good job actualy.
Sep 4 2008 10:20PM
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A-Style**
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yo im sure they do fine job its just like an object so precious and loving and beautiful so close to my heart... and then i see the MADE IN CHINA sticker and its just..... meh.....

haha fuck im wack
Sep 4 2008 10:24PM
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SkiMenthol
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Most parts of Acura/Lexus (Honda/Toyota) are actually manufactured and assembled in the US.

My local shop stopped carrying K2 and their subsidiaries because of the shift to China because he claims quality went down since then. I have PE's and their pretty bomb proof, but my skis this season will come from Europe or the US.
Sep 5 2008 2:59AM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Word man.  Being made in a certain place doesn't mean shit, honestly, it's just marketing, 99% of the time that is...
If K2 started making their stuff in the US, and Atomics were made in China I doubt it would be a noticeable difference at all. 

And to the person who says the Chinese person doesn't care...ya sure, but neither does the US worker making minimum.
Sep 5 2008 3:43AM
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RudyGarmisch
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The goddamned aroma got in my skis.

That and blood and semen.






Animal semen.
Sep 5 2008 5:52AM
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Aaaron.
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Sep 5 2008 9:56AM
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Klick_2_klaim
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acura and lexus are both manufactured in their japanese factories, along with all high performance honda's. your si models, etc.
Sep 5 2008 11:35AM
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untracked.com
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Unfortunately some of the worst quality control was in the US. Thus why it was cheaper for K2 and K2 Inc to move more production to the factory in China. US quality control for K2 was at about a 30% return rate, since moving to China that number is below 1%. As a business it is hard to make that decision, but if you can bring in skis for less money for both the retailer and cunsumer while putting a higher quality product then you almost have to make the move to China. I agree it is sad we are losing our jobs, but it is also sad that a lot of people don't work as hard as they should for what they are getting paid.
Sep 5 2008 1:12PM
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DangerToes
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my tunisian made skis have been better than any us, china, or euro mades ive ever had
Sep 5 2008 2:17PM
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b-kul
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hahaha right on.
Sep 5 2008 5:36PM
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dorikin
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From an economics standpoint it makes 100% sense. One thing I hate about economics: they never explain, or rather can't explain why despite the marginal costs and benefits, I just don't want my skis produced by some chinaman that has never skied in their life.

Sep 5 2008 5:40PM
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masta_LE3B
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i was about to say that "im proud to say that iv never owned an aisian made ski, only white people made skis" but then i remembered that my elizabeths were made there, i think? are the lizzies made in china as well?
Sep 6 2008 5:35AM
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coolhandluke
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by unpaid unskilled laborers. 

what garbage.
Sep 6 2008 5:53AM
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Lemuel
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i don't think my chronics have the china sticker on them. i got the last pair made before construction in china. hahahaha. no just kidding , but my invaders are still bomb proof after a year and a half. just because they are made in china doesnt mean they are shit. i dont care, i will still be k2/line products
Sep 6 2008 9:46AM
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angus_k_
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meh its not like its a bunch of chinese children getting payed with opium dying on the assembly line over there. The sports equiment factories are actually pretty legit, and if the quality is good and the prices are lower, why wouldnt you source to china.
Its the same thing for bikes, some people arent so down with the made in china stuff, but its almost always cheaper, lighter and comparable quality. Having your shit made in your country is an expensive luxury.
Thats not to say you shouldnt try and support local companies, especially if they are just trying to get off the ground. But just cause it has a "made in China" sticker on it, doesnt mean its shit.
Sep 6 2008 1:22PM
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ValPow
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bollacks,

fischer and elan make loads skis, i believe ficsher make armada's in austria (amoung others), elan are in slovenia and produce skis for lots of brands, which brands i'm not sure without researching it but i'm pretty sure europe is still producing alot, alot of racing skis aswell i think
Sep 6 2008 1:31PM
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THEDICKBUTCHER
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not all industries in china have 12 yr olds working for them.
Sep 6 2008 1:34PM
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SHastatahoe
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I have a pair of 4frnts that say "made in slovania"

I did'nt know there was a country called slovania.
Sep 6 2008 1:53PM
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dorikin
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4frnt had some of there models produced in algeria on tunisia or something also. They just have them produced wherever it is cheapest, it would seem.
Sep 6 2008 2:08PM
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camohard
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I think his point was more about the fact that slovAnia doesn't exist.... it's a typo and supposed to be slovenia.
Sep 6 2008 3:25PM
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snowbladesforlife
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What are you 15? That is the most retarded shit I have ever heard.

And I think I would rather have my skis pressed by someone who actually cares about keeping his job rather than some guy in America who is lazy and high as shit while doing it.
Sep 6 2008 3:46PM
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SkiMenthol
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I get the whole China vs. US/EU thing but a lot of people have been saying K2's reppin cheaper prices and I'm not too sure about that. With the exception of the Silencer, their price points are right on with Atomic, Rossi, Salomon, and other companies that aren't sourcing to China. I don't know about everyone else, but if I'm going to drop $500 on a new pair of skis, I'd rather have them made in the mountains in Europe than the city in China.
Sep 6 2008 4:21PM
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masta_LE3B
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ya man its a proven fact china stuff is lighter they use nueculer cores with a cross hatch blend of poly fiber and panda claw for extra edge control, thats why k2 must be so much better! heck they mite as well rename them selves "K-better-than-the-rest"
Sep 6 2008 5:08PM
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Celone
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nice mine are also made in reno nevada and they are handmade by real skiers.
Sep 6 2008 6:15PM
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poofartpee
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line has been made in china for like 4 years know...
Sep 6 2008 7:41PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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real skiers who know nothing about manufacturing, and are just taking a shot in the dark and hoping to get it right?
Sep 7 2008 1:22AM
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masta_LE3B
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bought time someone cracked down on that fake ass ski company
Sep 7 2008 2:25AM
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shortdawg
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yeah... you're an idiot
Sep 7 2008 2:27AM
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Ben.
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my bibbys were too. idk where solomon is made...
Sep 7 2008 3:10AM
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aurora.
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yea its true. Ive been to the fischer factory in austria (claim!!!) and it was gigantic. they make skis for several other companies. and of course the race ski market is huge as well....europe ski manufacturing is big mostly becuase of racing..

on a side note....the fischer factory was amazing.....i got to see how skis were made start to finish and our tour guide was the guy that invented some crazy new race binding....it was a little wierd becuase the people working there and doing all the machinery are all poor imagrants and it was kind of sad. they dont have very good health benefits and the guys that do the edges get cut up really easily and a lot of the heavy machinery is dangerous....the fischer factory normally doesnt do tours but my coach used to be on the austrian ski team and knew some people at the top so we got to go in...they wouldnt let us bring cameras or cell phones in becuase they had the new seasons skis out....
Sep 7 2008 3:33AM
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dorikin
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About k2 pricing: Their pricing all went up this year. This is straight from the mouth of a shop owner. I can't remember exactly, but I believe Hellbents were going for $550-600 at the beginning of last season. They are going for like $700 now. Depending on the exact numbers this could vary but by my calculations we are looking at around 15% increase in price from one year to the next. This is bullshit. Of course they will blame the price on increase in gas prices, the economy, etc. But wtf. The decrease in costs by moving production to China is definitely NOT getting passed on to the consumer. We are getting fucked. Is it just me or is snowboarding not this expensive? I love skiing more than anything else, and so much of my money gets pumped into this industry. I don't buy shit. I never buy new clothes or electronics or CD's, DVD's anything I am in college, I pay for my bills, and anything else I can scrounge up usually ends up in the ski industry. However, I haven't had a new pair of skis for like 4 years. Everything I buy is used, or seasons old. I can't afford $650 -700 for a fucking pair of skis sans bindings and mount.

My point: Take Moment skis as an example. Sorry to single you guys out, but their skis are serious quality, they spend the time to make sure the designs are sick, the construction is legit. Their pricing is equal to or less than K2. Probably less than on average. Yet, they hand press their skis in the US of fucking A. What happened to economies of scale? K2 is making crazy amounts of skis, why are their prices still so high, when a much smaller, core company, who has way smaller scales is able to offer product at the same price point?

Sep 7 2008 11:40AM
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A-Style**
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thats so crazy i'd never thought about like that kinda stuff. never thought the skiing industry could be injuring people like that, kinda reminds me of blood diamonds, how diamonds are like craved for in america and shit but there's like conflict and terrible stuff associated with their refining.
Sep 7 2008 12:59PM
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snowbladesforlife
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You are comparing manufacturing skis to blood diamonds?

There might be some of the most stupid shit I have ever read in this thread only
Sep 7 2008 1:27PM
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