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McCain's running mate is the Alaskan Governor??!

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aurora.
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what!? Sarah Palin, the alaskan governor, is apparently going to be McCain's running mate. I think its pretty strategic of the republicans to do this, but she stood for nothing while she was running and has no experience. You couldn't attack her or argue against her becuase she basically kept her mouth shut and never said what she specifically stood for other than the generic republican opinion. She is better than our former governor, but vice president???! I just hope people are smart enough to make sure they understand her policies and don't just vote for McCain becuase he's got a women on the ticket the same way i hope people don't just vote for Obama becuase hes black, as much as Id like to see a women as president or vice president....

this also makes the prez race in alaska a lot more heated becuase this year alaska could be a swing state (we are very very republican) and there's quite a few people upset with the republicans here becuase of Ted Stevens and Don Young, but i think people will see that an Alaskan is on the ticket and think thats more important....

i just heard the story on the morning news that it is official but I can't find any online articles about it becuase its too soon, but maybe later I'll post one.
Aug 29 2008 11:00AM
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skiminnesota
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yes, lets...


i still need answers to my posts..... i have a list of about 4 that i would like replied to........
Aug 30 2008 10:04PM
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skiminnesota
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nahh... im 99% sure its not you that i need answers from... i was fighting with other people... lol..


but if you want to join in just read over the last page...
Aug 30 2008 10:19PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat.  I think I'm still waiting on J.D. mostly, but Drew, you know I always like to hear what you have to say too buddy.

And on the, "Let's talk about issues" point, I concur...sorry if I steered away from that at all, but I think I did better than most of the morons in this thread.

Aug 30 2008 10:26PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Can I come out of the corner now?
Aug 30 2008 10:39PM
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skiminnesota
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1st amendment.... 


she is has the right to say what ever she wants, you might not like it, she might not be right, but  the day that people loose the right to be wrong, or right, or to give there opinion, is the day this country dies....


if you dont want to hash it out, over and over, assume that EVERYONE knows how both of you are going to respond, and leave it at that.... but dont ever try to infringe on anyone's RIGHT to speak there mind....

i did my best lawyer impersonation... ha 


Aug 30 2008 10:51PM
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skiminnesota
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i can agree with this,

i still think that IMO people would be ALL OVER MY ASS, if i made such a blatantly sexist, or racist poster about Obama, Biden, or hillary.....
Aug 30 2008 10:56PM
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skiminnesota
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i know my post came off with a ton of animosity in it, but i was getting super frustrated when that person dodged my question... ha
Aug 30 2008 11:02PM
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Shpadoinkle
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If you're calling me an idiot you are calling the rest of the Conservatives in this world idiots. Thanks. You have to agree with some of the things they say. It's just human nature.
Aug 30 2008 11:03PM
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skiminnesota
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hahah look at me talk...


i posted with out answering your question...


nope, i am not going to the RNC...
Aug 30 2008 11:05PM
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user098123
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No, most of the conservatives in this thread know how to explain their points in a logical manner. They also have the ability to understand what other people are saying and to analyze others opinions correctly.

Does anyone know who karl pilkington is? Totally reminds me of Aspen...anyways, you take whatever people say and completely twist their words and miss their main points and bring up mundane issues that are rather insignificant. Sorry for the harsh words, but I don't think I've ever seen someone miss point after point and spew as much bullshit as you.
Aug 30 2008 11:06PM
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holyDINOSAURS
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hahahahahahahahaha. oh my goodness. i cant believe i read this entire thread, and it ends with this.

thank you.
Aug 30 2008 11:13PM
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Shpadoinkle
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I try my best. I've already told everyone that I spit better than I can type. I try to understand you all. You know it's really hard to see what you're saying without tones and such. Monotone just doesn't work for me, but it seems to work for the Democratic party for some reason. I never missed points. I got to all the points, and I haven't spewed bullshit. You just have to read everything that I have said as if I were standing right in front of you speaking it. Like I said, I suck at putting my thoughts on paper. I try my best to make you all see what I am talking about. There is no need to call me stupid though. I'm just dyslexic.
Aug 30 2008 11:17PM
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FUUUCK
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Picking her was well thought out, I'll give em that much. It'll grab that vagina support the dems lost, and she cant really be attacked on much as of yet.

wonder how this'll play out.
Aug 30 2008 11:33PM
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J.D.
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Cottonwood: I think it's a piddly little nothing of a scandal and I personally couldn't even care less. Fuck that dude, he should be fired. But a) she shouldn't be abusing the rather limited powers of her office, in principle (makes me wonder if there's even the slightest chance she'd abuse a much more powerful office, which I wouldn't be willing to take). And b) regardless of what ANYONE thinks of the scandal, being deposed as governor shortly before your name is on the ballot for VP is going to cost your ticket a fair number of votes. The media is excellent at making a big story out of nothing and dragging it out for days, and no small number of people are going to be shocked and apalled that the VP candidate was actually stripped of her governorship. If it happens.
Aug 30 2008 11:43PM
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aurora.
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hmm....dont you have more time to be articulate and eloquent when typing instead of speaking....for me at least typing gives me more time more accurately explain my points??? just a thought....

but i was wondering if anyone knew who would become AK governor if she does become VP becuase our luit. gov is running for congress? i think? so if he wins and she wins....who the hell will run alaska? will they have another election? will the gov just be appointed? my government teacher didn't know the answer so i was wondering if anyone with some political and government knowledge would know?
Aug 31 2008 12:03AM
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TerminatorX
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indeed it is.
Aug 31 2008 12:03AM
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Delphi
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The youth of this country identify with obama because they have no clue about anything, they just go with the bush hating trend and immediately jump on board with someone who promises "change" from the last administration. Its people like them that will ultimately doom this country by voting for nobama. McCain isn't the best choice either by any means, but he sure as hell is better than Obama. I'd feel alot more comfortable if he had romney as his vp, but it wasn't in the cards. As for Obama, his small business tax plan has the potential to be ruinous to the hardworking small business people of this country, and coming from a family that runs a small business, its easy to see that I don't want obama, although that is just one of the many reasons. I think if you ask a voting aged teen on the streets fresh out of highschool why they want obama they wouldn't be able to come up with anything concrete and logical. I wont even get into the people that obama has been involved with over they years, what with Jeremiah Wright, the avowed america hater, and the various others (capitol building bombers, communists, etc.) It's just plain scary that our country seems to be so willing to elect someone like this guy. And for those of you who comment on republicans on NS, it's usually the liberals who spew the shit their parents do.
Aug 31 2008 12:04AM
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J.D.
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This is such complete media-manufactured, GOP talking point bullshit that has no bearing on how Obama would perform as president. They have nothing else on the guy so they dig up vague "connections" to create scandals out of. It's sad, and it's tabloid-style idiot fodder.

Speaking of ignorance, can you explain what exactly about Obama's tax plan will harm your family's small business? Can you point out that part of his tax proposal to me, or are you just taking someone else's word that it's going to have deleterious effects on your financial situation?


Aug 31 2008 12:17AM
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almostaskier
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I wouldn't care? I'd find it mildly humorous and move on with my life? NS would probably ignore your post, unless you used CAPS OMG! Seriously, we need some ritalin over here.
Aug 31 2008 12:17AM
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Shpadoinkle
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I try, but then when I go to bed at night I realize "Oh fuck! I missed a point I should have made." Dyslexia.

Aug 31 2008 12:18AM
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Delphi
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Uh yea J.D. Under his plan, the companies overall earnings will be taxed higher and the owning shareholders of that company get their earnings taxed as well because they are the owners. Therefore, because the overall earnings are being taxed higher, there is less money to put back into the business and the owners get less money. To add insult to injury, their earnings are also taxed. Add the fucking bullshit income tax in Massachusetts on top of Obama's income tax plan and they get even less. Even in my case, with him in office, I'll be giving up half of my paycheck every 2 weeks and my parents will make less money from the business they worked their asses off to build.
Aug 31 2008 12:23AM
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skiminnesota
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thankyou....

as long as you wouldnt have problem if the rolls were reversed....


Aug 31 2008 12:25AM
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aurora.
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well, dyslexia is a learning disability....
you should see someone about that so people just don't think youre rediculously stupid.......


sorry, i drank too much haterade....
Aug 31 2008 12:29AM
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Delphi
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dyslexia isn't as much a learning disability as it is a reading disability. Sure, not being able to read as proficiently as others may hinder learning, but first and foremost its just a reading thing.
Aug 31 2008 12:36AM
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Shpadoinkle
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On what account? That I missed a few points in my posts? Please.

Aug 31 2008 12:39AM
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speedy29
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How bout Obama being accused by members of his own party that he and the majority leader of the Illinois state senate had them add Obamas name to bills that would look good for him even when he never had anything to do with the bill.

Or accusation that he may or may not have gotten in a fist fight with a member of his own party over a disagreement.

He considered a man his mentor who was a member of a group that send bombs to government buildings and started a riot in a residential nehborhood.

He got a sweet deal on a house with the help from a man who had purchased an ajoining plot of land that man just so happens to  have been convicted of bribery.

Biden made the whole you have to have an indian accent to work at a 7-11 or dunkin donuts saying this directly to an indian america cause he didnt think it was inapporpriate at all.

Obama has fucked up too he's not perfect neither is Biden. McCain has done his share of messed up things too and im sure Palin has made mistakes too.

This election shouldn't be about who fucked up more but what the canidates are going to do as president

BTW im also a registered independant who has a mixture of liberal, conservative, and moderate values
Aug 31 2008 12:43AM
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J.D.
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How much money do you make annually? Because if it's less than $150,000, Obama will actually be cutting your income tax, probably more than McCain would. He has also slated tax cuts favouring companies which employ workers within the USA. Have you read his plan? People making millions per year will see substantial tax hikes, but middle class and upper middle class will actually pay less than they have under Bush and less than under McCain.
Aug 31 2008 12:45AM
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Delphi
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and JD these aren't vague lines connecting Obama to these anti-american terrorists. Ever heard of the weathermen? I suggest you learn about them because Obama is in bed with a few members. It's not media perpetuated either, because the media is so god damned liberal these days that they don't tell us about shit like the slime obama hangs out with because it could be harmful to his campaign. Just like the John Edwards scandal, where the fuck was the media on that one?
Aug 31 2008 12:45AM
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skiminnesota
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i would also like to see the endorsement of Obma's energy plan by Palin...
Aug 31 2008 12:47AM
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J.D.
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What the fuck are you talking about, they didn't shut up about Edwards for DAYS when that broke, and he wasn't even running for anything anymore!

Obama is not in bed with domestic terrorists. This is what I mean by tabloid idiot fodder. You might as well tell me he has a two-headed alien bastard child. If you actually believe that Barack Obama doesn't love America, I think you're an idiot, just as I think anyone who believes John McCain doesn't love America is an idiot. Stop with this sensationalist dramatic bullshit and go back to your substantive disagreement with his policies, I believe you were addressing his tax plan. So far I don't see how it would affect you negatively; I think you've got the wrong idea. If you were to read over the plan, I think you'd see it actually benefits you. Even if you found it does detract from your income, you could then at least point to the specific part of the plan that hurts you?
Aug 31 2008 12:54AM
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J.D.
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Her glowing review in a speech in early August was posted on a previous page.
Aug 31 2008 12:54AM
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Leo.
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  1. Confusion with before/after, right/left, and so on
  2. Difficulty learning the alphabet
  3. Difficulty with word retrieval or naming problems
  4. Difficulty identifying or generating rhyming words, or counting syllables in words (phonological awareness)
  5. Difficulty with hearing and manipulating sounds in words (phonemic awareness)
  6. Difficulty distinguishing different sounds in words (auditory discrimination)
  7. Difficulty in learning the sounds of letters
  8. Difficulty associating individual words with their correct meanings
  9. Difficulty with time keeping and concept of time
  10. Confusion with combinations of words
  11. Due to fear of speaking incorrectly, some children become withdrawn and shy or become bullies out of their inability to understand the social cues in their environment

wrong disease?

Aug 31 2008 1:02AM
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Delphi
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You're a moron. The national enquirer broke that story 3 weeks before any major media source did because they were too scared to touch it. They caught Edwards locked in a closet at the hotel his mistress was staying at at 3 in the morning.

And his tax plan hurts my family. I could care less about myself because i Don't have to pay for the shit they do. Their business is their livelihood, and in turn, mine. When you tax their earnings on top of income tax because they own the business is just fucking ridiculous. Sure im pissed that taxachusetts already takes huge income tax from my paychecks, but thats chump change to what my family stands to lose. Also, his bullshit over a second round of econ stimulus checks is just as stupid. Its like rewarding the lowest income double while passing over the upper people twice, how is that fair? They don't get checks because they made too much money to qualify for it. I would have qualified except that I have stocks that sold and pushed me over the limit. Thats money i cant touch yet, and even though i make shit money in the summer, I get no check. Reward the people who don't excell or haven't had the chance to excell or are just too fuckin lazy to strive for something more while you leave the people who actually have worked hard out.
Aug 31 2008 1:02AM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Dude...they're not talking about stripping her of her governorship.  It's a deposition, as in the legal sense - she's gonna have to answer some questions and give statements to the investigators.  She's not being deposed like the CIA deposed Pinochet or something like that.

Well, I guess they killed him, didn't they?  But you know what I'm saying.
Aug 31 2008 1:05AM
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skiminnesota
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already touched on that, so if you could expound on the copy paste you did earlier that would be great...



yeah, she ENDORSES getting AMERICA'S natural resources......  


im not seeing anything about inflating tires, getting off middle eastern oil in 10 YEARS...

i see her agreeing on natural GAS, not the whole obama plan...


so doesnt this speak volumes about McCain,? he is willing to work with people of different opinions......







"and it is gratifying to see Senator Obama get on board."

doesnt this imply that OBAMA joined her? not the other way around?

because last i heard she wants TO DRILL IN ANWR!!!!!
Aug 31 2008 1:42AM
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J.D.
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I don't think they're going to kill her. In any case, it would be a media circus.

SkiMN, you can take her comments as you like, if you don't think she seems really supportive of Obama's policies from what she says there, good for you. By the way, inflating tires has no part in Obama's energy plan. That was a GOP gimmick. Way to bite right into it.
Aug 31 2008 1:47AM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Wait...what?


So you realize when they say "depose," their talking about a legal interview, right?  Not taking her out of office.

Aug 31 2008 2:07AM
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J.D.
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Yeah I got you. I'm saying it would be a media circus, particularly if the cameras are allowed into the event. I can just see the questioners grandstanding and hammering her as hard as they possibly can to garner attention and further their own careers... and the media will eat that shit up. My point is, stuff like this is very bad for the ticket. You do not want drama like that right before an election, even if it's stupid and pointless, because a lot of people who will be voting will actually take it seriously and get all excited about what a big deal they think it is, particularly after Wolf Blitzer tells them so. I think it will receive huge coverage and be harmful.
Aug 31 2008 2:20AM
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J.D.
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... And she could face calls for impeachment, depending on how far these guys are willing to take the grandstanding. I wouldn't put it past them. 15 minutes of fame and all that. Obviously there isn't nearly enough time to go through with that procedure, nor would it likely succeed, but the mere threat doesn't help her.
Aug 31 2008 2:25AM
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speedy29
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HAHAHA
A deposition is a statement taken by a lawyer usally pretty informal extremly unlikely any one but her and her lawyer and and the person taking the statement would be in the room. I belive that they can do a deposition over the phone too but im not completly sure
Aug 31 2008 2:37AM
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J.D.
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True. It is, however, often recorded, and there is no reason to suggest that someone wouldn't try to videotape it... even if not, I don't know what the rules are like on privacy for this sort of thing, but would there not be disclosure? Someone who knows Alaska state law would know better than I would.
Aug 31 2008 2:40AM
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speedy29
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It could be taped but I'm guessing that she had another reason besides he wouldnt fire a bad cop to give to the public. I dont think they would have her be running for Veep if she were guilty of something illegal the GOP knows what their doing.
Aug 31 2008 2:45AM
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J.D.
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Well, I think she was probably in the right in terms of wanting the guy fired (I don't know the details, but generally tasering people for no reason is grounds for termination), although I don't think using her position to lean on someone to make it happen is responsible... and I'm sure they took this whole thing into account before they nominated her, even though JM only met with her the one time, which doesn't seem like much vetting. I just think that when it happens, however it happens, whether the press has direct access or just ends up interviewing some jackass who had something to do with the event a dozen times afterwards because he wants to make a name for himself... again, media circus.
Aug 31 2008 2:49AM
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speedy29
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true but im hoping that people dumb enough to belive what they hear on tv are also the ones to lazy to go out and vote.

another point but if black people are willing to vote for Obama because hes black I bet their are a good amount of women who would vote for the McCain ticket cause shes a women.

I also think she would be a good leader of the Senate just think next year shes going to be tell Obama and Biden when their allowed to get up and talk.(hopefully)

Aug 31 2008 3:07AM
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Skierguy1234
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but do you honestly think that if McCain dies of a heart attack in his first year she would be able to run the country?
Aug 31 2008 11:53AM
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Commonwealth
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....and that makes you an expert on the subject?
Aug 31 2008 11:53AM
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Shpadoinkle
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You missed my point by about 5 miles.
Aug 31 2008 12:40PM
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Shpadoinkle
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HAHA! Ok, Dr. NS. That's like EXTREME dyslexia. I have something more like ACUTE dyslexia. Sometimes I have to think about right and left. Sometimes I have trouble finding the right words. But like I said, just because I talk slow doesn't mean I'm stupid.

Aug 31 2008 12:46PM
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Leo.
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no i mean those are the basic diagnosing symptoms of dyslexia there. and nowhere do I see anything describing what you claim as dyslexia.
Aug 31 2008 2:28PM
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[~_~]
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Haha the second I saw this on the front page of our paper I said "awwwwww fuck."
Aug 31 2008 2:42PM
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