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McCain's running mate is the Alaskan Governor??!

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aurora.
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what!? Sarah Palin, the alaskan governor, is apparently going to be McCain's running mate. I think its pretty strategic of the republicans to do this, but she stood for nothing while she was running and has no experience. You couldn't attack her or argue against her becuase she basically kept her mouth shut and never said what she specifically stood for other than the generic republican opinion. She is better than our former governor, but vice president???! I just hope people are smart enough to make sure they understand her policies and don't just vote for McCain becuase he's got a women on the ticket the same way i hope people don't just vote for Obama becuase hes black, as much as Id like to see a women as president or vice president....

this also makes the prez race in alaska a lot more heated becuase this year alaska could be a swing state (we are very very republican) and there's quite a few people upset with the republicans here becuase of Ted Stevens and Don Young, but i think people will see that an Alaskan is on the ticket and think thats more important....

i just heard the story on the morning news that it is official but I can't find any online articles about it becuase its too soon, but maybe later I'll post one.
Aug 29 2008 11:00AM
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funk.
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You missed the fact that iggy was trying to point out that it was odd that McCain picked someone with such little experience when there is a high risk that he will not be in office the full four years.


My take on the matter is that there is something fishy going on and we will see what it is sooon.
Aug 29 2008 6:35PM
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Shpadoinkle
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I already responded to that point that he made.
Aug 29 2008 6:37PM
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iggyskier
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ugh.....you are exhausting.

That is not the point at all.  The point is just this....nothing more...nothing less.

When you are in questionable health, and you are choosing someone to possibly take over your position upon your death, you usually pick someone with more experience than Palin. 

That is it.  ok?

and yeah, you are not bursting out bubble.  Of course you would pick Palin over Obama, so would many others.

it is just funny when you have MaCain saying Obama just doesn't have the experience for the position when someone who could take his place has less experience than the person MaCain is attacking.



But as was stating above, you are missing the point over, and over, and over.


Aug 29 2008 6:37PM
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horner
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She's kind of hot, I'm voting for McCain.
Aug 29 2008 6:37PM
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wrenegade
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Holy crap, I can't help but laugh at this thread. Then cry. Dear god.

I'm a big fan of McCain. Big fan. Loved him him 2000 against Bush, love the fact that he's a long time senator and was a Captain in the Navy. However this move was pretty dumb. She was chosen for 2 reason. One, she is a women (being good looking is only a bonus). Two, she is relatively unknown, so it is hard to criticize her on what she has or hasn't done. That's it.

You can't possibly think that Governor of Alaska for 2 years (or just under), plus mayor of a small town can compare to 4 years in the Senate, plus 8 years in the state Senate. I don't think Obama has much experience either, but he does have more than Palin. Also, I have to say that being in the National spotlight for the past 4 years does count for something, because every single one of his decisions has been looked at more closely than anything Palin has done. I don't not like Palin, it's just hard to see what she was really done. Mitt Romney would have been a much, much, much better choice. Generally speaking, I think being Governor (except for states like Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, Rhode Island, etc, just cause they are so damn small) provides better experience than the Senate. Obviously Massachusetts is not one of these.

Speaking of the the Senate though, you americans have got to wake up kick these people in the ass. The house too. What does this congress have, like a 9% approval rating? Less bills passed into law than any other congress ever? Not that President isn't important, but there is more than one man running the show.
Aug 29 2008 6:39PM
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funk.
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Her daughters are hot.
Aug 29 2008 6:39PM
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Moisty_Goat
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kind of my ass, she IS hot
Aug 29 2008 6:39PM
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josh.
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aspen why do bother posting in topics where smart people are talking, you just make an ass of your self.
Aug 29 2008 6:40PM
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Shpadoinkle
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So we are essentially voting for VP's instead of presidents.
Aug 29 2008 6:42PM
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Moisty_Goat
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he speaks the truth
and if mcain got elected then that would mean i had been to the vice presidents house and know her kids! I bet bristol would go over great with tabloids/the public or whatever
Aug 29 2008 6:44PM
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funk.
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If you lived in AK you'd see what she did. (I know we're small).  But Me, My friends, and my family most all vote democrat.. The vast majority of my community votes democrat.  But we all have come to like what Palin is doing.  She's really turned the state around from the Murkowski era.  I really don't know what the hell she could do on a national level but she certainly held her own going from 7,000 people to 600,000 people.  And its not like other presidents have had any foreign policy experience either.  What governor has?  not Clinton.. not Reagan.. 

haha I'm a dem trying to convince a republican that his VP candidate is a good one. lol.
Aug 29 2008 6:45PM
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wrenegade
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DEAR GOD!

NO!

People are just trying to make the fucking point that who your VP candidate is, is part of what you consider when you are voting for a President. In a case such as this, where you the 2nd oldest candidate in history (even putting health issues aside), this decision counts a little more than usual.
Aug 29 2008 6:45PM
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iggyskier
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FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING GOD.........no.  But the VP should be something taken into consideration.
Aug 29 2008 6:47PM
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funk.
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When the Presidential candidate has serious reoccurring health problems then YES the VP plays a serious role.
Aug 29 2008 6:47PM
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Moisty_Goat
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so what happens if mccain wins?
do we get screwed out of governor?
or does her like lieutenant governor or whatever take over? and who is he?
Aug 29 2008 6:49PM
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funk.
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word

I just asked this in AK cult.. but seriously I don't want to loose her as governor.  What happens? do we have a short notice election?
Aug 29 2008 6:50PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Alrighty then, I thought so. I still think that if it came down to it then she would make a great president. Stop trying to change people minds.
Aug 29 2008 6:53PM
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papasteeze
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Agreed!   


I WANT A FUCKING CHANGED GOVERNMENT.


Everyone vote for the pretty face like they voted for the actor.   We will be fine.  Turst me.  Change is good and everything is fucked up in the US  voting in any long standing career politician will not bring about change.

VOTE FOR THE PRETTY FACE IF YOU WANT SOMETHING TO REALLY CHANGE!


ha!  obama and his change this and change that.....  bleh....


JD is right McCain is likely to croak, vote for change, vote for someone radically different, vote for the hottie from ALaska!


Aug 29 2008 6:54PM
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ax_murderer
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the guy threatened to kill 2 government officials and tazered his own 11 year old stepson. do you think he should have been fired? he was suspened and then the union shortened his suspension. i cant imagine anyone advocating that he should keep his job as police man.


i cant wait to see what she does. shes young, very conservative, and she'll really mix things up i feel like.
Aug 29 2008 6:54PM
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ax_murderer
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in small 1 on 1 settings like the debates McCain is going to own obama. did u see the interviews with the preacher? obamas great at speeched but gets all confused in a smaller setting
Aug 29 2008 6:56PM
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funk.
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wait.. but McCain can hold up on the spot?  I really don't think he's going to do well in the debates..
Aug 29 2008 6:59PM
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ax_murderer
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a good reagan republican. i want her in mccains place, im feeling good about his choice.



Aug 29 2008 7:00PM
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funk.
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So say Palin goes to DC.. and Parnell gets elected to Senate or House or whatever.. then I'm really confused on who our governor is.
Aug 29 2008 7:00PM
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ax_murderer
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well he was great in the warren interviews so we'll see
Aug 29 2008 7:00PM
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Shpadoinkle
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How come McCain wants to debate and Obama won't take him up on it?
Aug 29 2008 7:00PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Thank you for an honest, intelligent reply.  I may not agree with you on most issues but at least you're informed, and I can respect that.



Aug 29 2008 7:04PM
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mmmmm...Pie
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I'm not sure how to feel about this...

On one hand, it's an obvious pitch to try and get attention/votes because she is a woman. Not to mention the fact that McCain criticizes Obama's lack of experience and then chooses a VP with even less experience than Obama.  Although, Obama is running for President, so experience matters a little more than if he were a VP candidate. And it's politics, so hypocrisy is to be expected. Regardless, the fact is McCain is 72. His dad died at 70 (I know it's not any kind indicator of how long he will live, but it does put some perspective on his age), and McCain has had some health problems. Palin would not be good for this country as the president, as she lacks national experience, especially in the area of foreign policy.

On the other hand, she's someone who has backbone and does what she believes in, which is very respectable. Other than the investigation into her abuse of power, she seems to have a pretty good record. And, as some of the people who live in AK have said, she is well liked by the public - both democrats and republicans.

I think in the end, I dislike her because of where she stands on the issues. However, I do see her as a somewhat respectable choice for VP. If I was a republican, I might be alright with the choice, even more so if McCain was younger.
Aug 29 2008 7:07PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Dude, the stereotype of a "Washington insider" has nothing to do with whether or not you commute to work.  I think it's more about being a career politician.

As for his racist comments, I'm not saying the guy attends KKK meetings when no one's looking, but those are pretty major slip-ups.  Yeah, if you're talking in front of people all the time, you're gonna make mistakes, but saying you understand Indian-Americans because you frequent 7-11 is just a ridiculous statement to make while campaigning for the Presidency of the United States.

I wasn't comparing Biden to Bush other than to say having experience in something doesn't make you the foremost expert on it.

The three-state or three-region solution, however you want to slice it, would have resulted in one of two things: three separate, independent attempts at genocide or years and years of US/NATO peacekeepers preventing that.  As it stands, we're on the verge of an agreement that will have US combat forces out of Iraq in the next 3 years and it looks like the country has a damn good shot at some semblance of stability.  This is a direct result of the surge which Biden opposed.

And I know for most people, foreign policy in Africa is not an issue at all, but that's something that really interests and concerns me.  And Biden's discussion of Darfur in the Democratic debates before the primary showed a severe lack of knowledge of what's going on there.  For one thing, saying a no-fly zone could be enforced by a "handful of planes" (which was almost his exact wording IIRC) is asinine.  For another, saying that a no-fly zone over Darfur would do ANYTHING in 2008 (besides probably cut off humanitarian aid to 2 million people in refugee camps) is even more ridiculous.
Aug 29 2008 7:18PM
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Quinny
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Are you joking? Clinton has been the only Democratic presidential candidate with any substance in the last 30 years. Lets see...we had Jimmy Carter who is arguably the worst president in history, Walter Mondale who was so terrible that Regan crushed him by a very comfortable margin, Dukakis who was simply the least bad in a field that included Al Gore and Jessie Jackson, Gore himself proved to be a very arrogant yet painfully bland individual, John Kerry who is an embodiment of platform ambiguity, and finally we have Obama who presents us with an extremely vague idea of what "Change" is...apart from anti-capitalism bordering on gross socialism.
Aug 29 2008 7:33PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Hahaha...yeah, if nothing else, as a 22 year old male and a pilot, I'm voting for the smoking MILF with a seaplane! 




Just kidding...but seriously.


Aug 29 2008 7:36PM
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funk.
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She hunts, eats moose, hamburger, ice fishes, rides snowmobiles, has run a marathon, and owns a float plane.[16][79] Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association. She admits that she used marijuana at a time when the state had legalized possession of small amounts (though possession was still illegal under federal law). She says that she did not like it and does not smoke it now.[13] In December 2007, Palin posed for a photo spread in Vogue.


I love it.  You can totally tell she used to smoke weed.  She acts like most all of your cool moms.  No joke.
Aug 29 2008 7:52PM
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papasteeze
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no seriously, I am changin my stance on things, I agree with Obama now, we need change, but his life is way to political,  we need a fresh new thinker to bring about new serious changes.  Vote for the MILF!
Aug 29 2008 7:54PM
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natedogg789435
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it was a good idea for mcain to do this, i didnt read the thread but i think he made a good choice
Aug 29 2008 7:58PM
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skiEER
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no but he should take that stuff into account when he picks a vp and with mccain the vp is even more important
Aug 29 2008 8:06PM
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Shpadoinkle
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I think a conservative woman in high office could be a good change. She has great family values, and I believe that it could be a great step in the right direction. A majority of democratic female voters loved Hillary. I didn't like Hillary though just because of her views, and there was too much testosterone in all the wrong areas aka Bill is her bitch.
Aug 29 2008 8:08PM
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Hannah.
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i think its cool he picked her
its really sad though that her baby has down sydrome
Aug 29 2008 9:11PM
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josh.
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so you like her because she has good family values, and not because of her political views? and how would a woman be better then a man? a good decision is a good decision regardless of sex.
Aug 29 2008 9:45PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Don't be so closeminded. I love her politics. I would love her to be my governor. I bet she would be really pushing drilling off the coast of FL.
I don't care on the sex of a person, but women think and act differently than men - it's a proven fact.
Aug 29 2008 9:55PM
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beer.
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good advice.  you should take it.
Aug 29 2008 10:02PM
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josh.
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yes they think more with there emotions i.e. they get caught up in the moment and make irrational decisions, where as men think more intellectually i.e. think things out.  
Aug 29 2008 10:03PM
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Campeador
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Obama received help from a crook to buy his Chicago house for a special deal. A crook who used money that came from the Saddam oil for food scandal. Obama supported this same crook named Rezner who received millions of dollars from the government to fix low income housing, housing that was never repaired or repaired very poorly. All the while Rezner still had money to contribute to Obama campaigns (makes sense if you want to keep receiving government funds). Obama got a special deal on his house because Rezner bought out the adjoining lot using money funneled to him from by Saddam's cousin in the UK, money that was made in the oil for food scandal. All the while people living in the low income housing that Rezner was supposed to repair suffered severely cold winter conditions due to very poor heating systems that were never repaired. Obama is great at "helping" the people he "cares" about when it comes to serving his own political ends isn't he? Or maybe he's just the best pupil of Saul Alinsky the world has seen. Anyone who doesn't believe me read "Rules for Radicals" it basically defines Obama's playbook.

Biden on the other hand is a plagiarist, a moron who cannot even come up with his own speeches. A moron who's doesn't even have his speeches written for him by his aides but rather steals from the British Labor Party thinking no one will be smart enough to figure it out.

Seems more important to me than firing a state trooper.
Aug 29 2008 10:03PM
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aurora.
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haha yeah i know im torn too. she really has exceeded my expectations.....especially since her only platform when running was "i am not murkowski"...i think she sincere about anti-corruption but i feel like she has a hard time dealing with oil companies and the gas line. i really want to see something done with that but it just keeps getting postponed....i dont know enough about the subject to blame it all on her..but i feel like she isnt really doing as much as she could.

REGARDLESS....she has done a lot and our PFD is gonna be like $3000 this year which is twice as much as it was under murkowski! yay!

its a really smart choice for mccain....and someone deserves a pay raise for deciding that should happen..
Aug 29 2008 10:07PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Do you have a girlfriend?
Aug 29 2008 10:08PM
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josh.
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what does that have to do with the way the diffrent sex's act? do you have a boyfriend? does he get tired of you trying to sound smarter then you are (kinda like fox news).
Aug 29 2008 10:13PM
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aurora.
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hahaha...this is the only quality post you've had.....

i just read an article that said this morning before the announcment someone went in a revamped palin's wikipedia page and deleted all the miss alaska pagaent stuff and the part about her being under investigation. They also reworded a lot of things to make her sound more grandiose...haha...i just thought it was funny....

also on her main website they deleted her statements saying that she supported obama's energy plan and wants to impliment it in AK....

i think joe said earlier: obama-palin 08
Aug 29 2008 10:13PM
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Campeador
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having a girlfriend is overrated.
Aug 29 2008 10:13PM
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ax_murderer
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Palin is very conservative.  She would never run with a wacko like Obama, y'all wish.

It does still say she is under investigation, which is ridiculous.  They are doing it because of union complaints probably.  The guy tasered his 11 year old step son and threatened to kill two government officials.  Do you think he should keep his job as a POLICEMAN?
Aug 29 2008 10:18PM
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Shpadoinkle
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I'm going to give you a thumbs up on the cockblock you just gave yourself.

My boyfriend is liberal. We just don't talk politics. Except for today - he stepped over the line. Bad boy. He knows how smart I am. I'm an intelligent person. Just because I talk slow doesn't mean I'm stupid.
Aug 29 2008 10:22PM
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beer.
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truth.  girls are crazy, from the male standpoint.
Aug 29 2008 10:24PM
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josh.
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hahahaha good one

but as asian allen would say

can we get a golden wheel chair over here


Aug 29 2008 10:24PM
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