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Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is
[Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have
an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen
zero evidence of that.”
Speaking to the New York Observer:
Biden was equally skeptical — albeit in a slightly more backhanded way
— about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream
African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a
nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein:
“He’s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national
security… “We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy
who is an extreme danger to the world.”
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002: “Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.”
Biden on Meet the Press in 2007, on Hussein’s WMDs: “Well, the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued — they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued.”
Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007: “I don’t want [my son]
going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail
Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I
don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and
so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic
rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have
voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to
end the war. “There’s no political point worth my son’s life,” Biden
said, according to Radio Iowa. “There’s no political point worth
anybody’s life out there. None.”
Biden on Meet the Press,
April 29, 2007: “The threat [Saddam Hussein] presented was that, if
Saddam was left unfettered, which I said during that period, for the
next five years with sanctions lifted and billions of dollars into his
coffers, then I believed he had the ability to acquire a tactical
nuclear weapon — not by building it, by purchasing it. I also believed
he was a threat in that he was — every single solitary U.N. resolution
which he agreed to abide by, which was the equivalent of a peace
agreement at the United Nations, after he got out of — after we kicked
him out of Kuwait, he was violating. Now, the rules of the road either
mean something or they don’t. The international community says “We’re
going to enforce the sanctions we placed” or not. And what was the
international community doing? The international community was
weakening. They were pulling away.”
i want all of you to pay close attention to the last one....
Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005: “We can call it quits and
withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can
set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our
enemies to wait us out — equally a mistake.”
It's a good thing that his vp doesn't just agree with everything he says. Although I thought it would of been cool if he picked a republican, he seems like a good choice.
a vice president should have a dynamic view on shit different from the president. if you dont, then how are policies going to be examined? they'll just pass like they did with bush.
Just another brilliantly evil politician out to take even more of the freedoms and sovereignty away that this country was built/based upon. He's a member of the CFR (as is McCain and Obama), he voted to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, he voted for the patriot act, then voted against renewing it in 2005 to follow the democrats, then he voted to renew it again in 2006. Oh and we can't forget he was quoted saying, “all Serbs should be placed in Nazi-style concentration camps” when Clinton attacked the Serbs in 1999.
But none of this matters because he's "been through hell and back" because his wife was killed in a car accident. That must make him a better person.... right?
so Change, Change! Barack wants change, well let me know how choosing a 36 year carrier politician and Washington insider is change from the status quo?????
Very true, until a man named Dick Cheney came along. I think he has shown that the VP can fuck up quite a bit more of our nation than most people think.
oh i got a pretty good hold on how it works. yes there is many political advisors who literally think for the president on 90% of the issues, but in the end it comes down to the president to make policy. he will have a diverse group, unlike bush's administration.
I love how everyone makes such a big deal about the vice president..
he doesnt really do too much, other than sit on top of the senate, as a tiebreaker, and act as a vice-head of state... (something that biden would actually be good at, seeing as he's not bad with foreign relations)
with all that said.. I think Obama chose wisely for the most part.
Now lets see who McCain picks. Lol... how about a young, black guy... that will stir this thing up a bit... haha
well people always talked about how obama would handle everything because hes not very experience, and bidens been in senate for like 25 years or something so that was smart i believe
I just find it funny you're listing quotes about how this guy considered saddam a threat, when I think its more than likely you were all for the iraq war in 2002...
my point is, all i ever see is Barack (Barry) standing on this high pedestal saying, "i was against the war" and now his VP choice, (the man who is supposed to bring foreign policy experience to the ticket), was a polar opposite to Barack on the issue of War in iraq
Its backwards for Obama to pick a running mate that was in favor of the war.
His main criticism of Hillary was that she voted for the war. That was the main point in every debate he had with her.
By the way, were any of you aware that Barack bought his house with the help of a corrupt business partnership, which involved his partner using Saddam Hussein's oil for food scandal money?
And I'm tired of reading that Obama came from low beginnings. He went to the most prestigious high school in Hawaii, that today costs around $17,000 a year to attend. It was all paid for by his grandmother, whom he turned around and attacked for being a racist when he was confronted with the Reverend Wright racism dilemma, what loyalty.
YEAH DREW! you're right, i did copy paste, direct quotes from Joe Biden......... not political spin columns, but DIRECT QUOTES...
what i am getting at is basically i find it hilarious that all we ever heard about is how "i was against the war" and then he goes at picks someone who made his feelings pretty clear on the war, and Saddam....
do i have to get you the sound bites of what Biden said about the messiah (barack, or is it barry? ) himself?
Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007: “I don’t want [my son]
going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail
Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I
don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and
so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic
rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have
voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to
end the war.
August 2007... seems like a quick change of mind if he were to come out in opposition now. Plus the dude thought he could get away with stealing all his speeches from a British politician back in the day. But he seems like a non-important entity on the ticket. Keep the focus on Obama's cult of personality is the way the democrats plan to win. We'll see how well they can keep up this "change" rhetoric bullshit for the next couple of months.
I mean just look at how bad Obama has helped fuck shit up in Kenya. Look up Raila Odinga, extensions of Sharia law, affirmative action for Muslims, awesome. Besides that fact that Odinga is communist in all but name, and Odinga's father established the Kenyan communist party.