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Best true park skis OUTSIDE of the park?

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lepp0012
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I'm narrowing down my new ski selection for this year. I'm pretty much deciding between the Walls and Anthems, but I'm starting to get a little interested in the Reno Jibs and the Suspects. Anyway, I'm looking for a solid park ski that can still rip on the rest of the mountain, since I have a lot of friends who don't ski park and I spend a fair amount of time everywhere else. Also, I live in MN, so when I say all mountain, I mean hard pack, ice, and groomers. I'm 5'10" 175lbs.

So, who can help me evaluate how these skis ride outside the park?

Thanks for the help!!
Aug 21 2008 10:47AM
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LC.
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Walls ski really nice on groomers. The old Troublemakers and Scratch FS WRS/Ghetto are the nicest skiing park skis I've been on though.
Aug 21 2008 11:12AM
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518
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Volkl walls, 100%
sick EVERYWHERE
Aug 21 2008 11:44AM
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80*s4eva
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Yeah Rossi park ski are really good outside park.. This years S4's are the same as the Scratch's FS WRS and getto.  You should get some
Aug 21 2008 11:50AM
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RtC.
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I would say the Jibs man. I have ridden the walls as well but preferred the Jibs so much more.
They are a lot lighter, like so much it is noticeable.
they are snappier and have a ton more pop than the wall. They also look way sick.
Their edge hold is unmatched on a park ski (in my mind)

The anthem would be too soft for a well performing all mountain twin. But will be fun to Jib and slash around on.

jibs are cheaper than all of them other than the anthem too and the quality is far superior.

Where do you ski?
Aug 21 2008 12:38PM
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ReedSkis~
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anthem yo, nice width under the foot
Aug 21 2008 12:46PM
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pmw
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all those skis are great, but the 08 dumont kills in park, and also rest of mountain so take a look at those.
Aug 21 2008 2:03PM
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lepp0012
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I'm definitely intrigued by the Jibs, but there aren't any local shops that carry them... I'm always hesitant to buy anything that I've never actually seen in person, but who knows. As far as graphics go, I actually like the Anthems the best, but that's the last thing I'm worried about.

I ski mainly at Welch and Lutsen out here in MN. I don't make it out west enough to really use that as input in buying skis since 95% of my skiing is in the Midwest (sad, I know).
Aug 21 2008 3:34PM
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skiRay
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AR6, T-hall, Pipe Cleaner, Dumont, Wall, reno freebird
Aug 21 2008 3:40PM
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SEABURN
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the walls are only good outside the park because of the good ol' volkl stiffness, but I've seen many a messed up wall, the durability of that ski isn't fantastic. I'd tell you to try the jib, still stiff, but lighter and more poppy.( i know someone said that, but they were right)

Aug 21 2008 4:52PM
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freshlyDIPPED
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Karmas FTW check my sale...
Aug 21 2008 5:47PM
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Wapile
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Armada AR6 or 4frnt MSP
Aug 21 2008 6:21PM
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skiRay
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MSP isnt a true park ski.
Aug 21 2008 6:30PM
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Balto
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ar6 ftw

Aug 21 2008 6:39PM
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Wapile
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Crap, didn't see the "true" part.
Aug 21 2008 7:11PM
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a--1
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anthem for sure 93 waist
Aug 21 2008 7:31PM
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Duncan*
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arent they the same as suspects (they are as far as,dimesions,hey are made the same?) i think u are nly pay ing more for the name and double edge armour
Aug 21 2008 7:39PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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too soft. It is great for mellow trees/pow days, but if you are doing something that is intense, or just going fast on groomers, anthems=noodles.

But, I love my anthems.
Aug 21 2008 8:33PM
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Rosski423
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you should look into lib techs new skis, the magne traction holds extremely well on ice
Aug 21 2008 8:43PM
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pmw
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dude you your paying really al lfor the name,but thats the 09 dumonts.the 08 ones are the ones with the sunset on them and capped side walls

Aug 21 2008 8:51PM
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Franny
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Deff the anthems.
Aug 21 2008 8:56PM
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Ar5king
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check out last year's line blends.... BUTTER

90 waist
Aug 21 2008 9:01PM
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Tanner-D
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Freebird isnt really a true park ski
it was designed for the whole mountain
The freebird will rip anything though soi highly recomend them
Aug 22 2008 12:40AM
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linepowder
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ar6's and salomon ten eighty are good in the park and out
Aug 22 2008 12:48AM
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jsaya_SagStraps
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 me too, no doubt theyre n oodles, i felt scared at high speed. especially with no edges
Aug 22 2008 1:43AM
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lepp0012
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That's kind of what I'm afraid of. I'm sure they'd be awesome in the park and for softer snow (which exists maybe once a season out here), but I don't want something that'll be a total noodle when flying down groomers... so is that the case?

I have Fujitives right now, which are total noodles. How do Anthems compare to those as far as high speed stability?
Aug 22 2008 9:32AM
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skiRay
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it was the original moment ski for park. until the jib replaced it. also to add, the scratch fs/ gheto/ s4 is good outside the park
Aug 22 2008 10:56AM
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reverendwrong
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To a fellow MN rider:

it really dosent matter, I ride my JO's literally everywhere(i do have 2 pair so one still has good edges) ive used them on: ice,groomers,pow,park, trees, 15ft cliffs, and urban. The thing u are really looking for is a ski you like flex wise. I agree that ur K2s are too noodly. Go to a shop find a ski with the flex u like, and go rip. You dont need a special ski to ski certian things, it makes it nicer but I have a one ski quiver...well actually 3 if u count both pairs of JOs and my race skis. Id say go get some JOs cause they are the shit, but different strokes for difrent folks. Go to pine or summit and ask the ppl there you should be able to find something you like.
Aug 22 2008 1:51PM
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Tanner-D
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ya i guess tah is right
but on there site last year they described it as turning into an all mountain ripper
It will slay almost everything but deep pow so Id recommed them
Aug 22 2008 1:54PM
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JHDski47
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Lib tech NAS ......those kill it outside the park.  Magne-traction holds real well on the ice and carves like a racing ski
Aug 22 2008 5:34PM
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