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Skiing pros... unprofessional?

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Ben.
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It just seems like even the pros in this sport are hating on the styles of other skiers, and thats something you don't see in any other sport, really.
Aug 11 2008 8:23PM
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Ben.
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idk it just seems to be more out in the open in this sport. like say skateboarding people may hate on say, shrink wrapped jeans. but they dont hate on specific people as much
Aug 11 2008 8:26PM
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quebecfreestyler
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There are many more reason why skiing pros are not that prfessionnal.


Some are really good at representing the company they ride for while some other are doing a terrible job. Maybe if everyone would work their ass off and act like they would do in a regular job the ski industy andthe sponsorship scene would be much different today.

Aug 11 2008 8:38PM
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Caveman.
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What was the Pep rant? Does anyone have a link?
Aug 11 2008 9:14PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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All sports talk crap. Look at that swimmer, and that was in the fucking olympics. He said he was gonna smash the americans, that is pretty much a big bash on our team, and the olympics are supposed to be way better than that.

Aug 11 2008 9:19PM
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Ben.
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thats exactly what im talking about. it makes me lose alot of respect for athletes that arent acting professional. any other sport thats a very rare occurrence. and to the guy talking about the olypics, yeah that happens but its rare. it happens all the time in skiing. why is that still considered acceptable
Aug 11 2008 10:00PM
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iluvBread
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you need to really open your eyes if you think it';s not in other sports
Aug 11 2008 10:02PM
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Ben.
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i realize it happens, but it seems less frequent. take skateboarding for example. with the exception of the occasional popup (sheckler) its pretty chill and people are pretty accepting. i guess it just goes to show how much more skiing has to grow.
Aug 11 2008 10:05PM
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kyle-decker
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"unprofessional"? they are skiiers, they aren't business men....
Aug 11 2008 10:09PM
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Ben.
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they are professional skiers whos job is to represent their companies in a respectable manner. something that some pros dont seem to be doing. its a job no different than anyone else.
Aug 11 2008 10:15PM
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iluvBread
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hmmm interesting....god job you convinced me

Aug 11 2008 10:16PM
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iluvBread
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i guess i was only tinking about basketball and football and baseball
Aug 11 2008 10:17PM
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Ben.
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i realize sports like that it happens. i was more speaking the action sports community where people seem to have more respect to each other, and are stoked for each other when someone wins or progresses the sport, regardless of whether or not it fits their "mould" of style. which comes to the general single mindedness of skiing but thats a whole nother thread....
Aug 11 2008 10:20PM
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babujib
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i was thinking about jacob westers comment on the "jon brogan ride away" thats a pretty low blow too
Aug 11 2008 10:23PM
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Blurst
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verytrue  theya rnt getting paid millions of dollars like soccer players also they are not in the spotlight  so the publicity is less
and plus skiing is a super lax sport to begin with 
Aug 11 2008 10:44PM
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Dbouch
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This sport is going is so many different directions right now, so its only naturally for the pioneers of the different styles to disagree on which way is the right way.
Aug 11 2008 10:48PM
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joly.sp
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just because jacob wester has an opinion on afterbang doesnt mean its unprofessional.
Aug 11 2008 11:28PM
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snowboardersrule
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its done all the time in all sports, professional or not. and it happens in skateboarding alot too. hesh kids rip on hiphop kids, and vice versa. and everyone rips on shaun white. and when your business is image, which is what pro skiers are in the business of, sometimes your business includes rivalries, which includes trash talking and truthful/unfriendly opinions.
Aug 11 2008 11:32PM
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Malcolm
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what? how could you say such a thing.
Aug 11 2008 11:38PM
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ThaLetterM.
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i think it should be a rule that if you are a pro skier in the industry, and you talk shit about another skier, the beef is declared unsettled, and a cage match MUST be fought between the conflicting parties to settle the beef.
Aug 11 2008 11:39PM
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yellav
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Aug 12 2008 12:23AM
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R.Fahey
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You just called an opinion "wrong". 
A lot of really good skiers go pro regardless of if they talk shit, or how they represent themselves.  Look at the biggest, most popular skiers (Tanner).  Doesn't give a shit, and used to talk shit on lots of people, and get into trouble.... then he started making millions. 

And some people think it doesn't happens in other sports, but how closely do you follow those other sports.  Do you spend hours a day reading forums and interviews about them to see what people have said?
Aug 12 2008 12:37AM
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WoodyE
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does anyone else think that this could be related to why halfpipe skiing is having such difficulty getting into the olymics,at least part of it?
Aug 12 2008 12:47AM
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quebecfreestyler
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This is exactly why there isnt that much money involved in professionnal freeskiing.

Unless you got the raw talent and the attitude to get out there and win everything, you wont be making money without tkaing this sport as a job in some kind of way and trying to do your best to live from it.
Aug 12 2008 12:54AM
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yellav
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im pretty sure peps more worried about having fun then you guys all crying about him hating on gagniers ugly ass one footers
Aug 12 2008 12:55AM
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SkiPat
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I don´t hate on tanner but first he is not makin MILLIONS and second I think he is a badass skier but his whole behaviour like acting like a 12 year old stoned kid is one reason for it that skiing isnt in the olympics. If I would be a FIS guy and would see Tanner as the best athlete in skiing pipe, hanging around smokin blunts and stuff I also wouldn´t think that it is good that our sport goes olympic.
I know how he loves the sport but those FIS nerds can not imagine this love, they can only see the behaviour of its athletes.
Aug 12 2008 5:04AM
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Static
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"respectable manner" I don't think that matters, you might have proskiers and reps confused.
Aug 12 2008 7:20AM
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Franny
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If there were no hating then we wouldn't have a movie called claim.
Aug 12 2008 8:31AM
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PBraunstein
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first off... im sure tanner has mad over a million dollars.... come on... redbull?.... and i think you trying to relate tanners "attitude" to skiing halfpipe not being in the olympics is fairly naive... i mean come on... there was nobody more "thugged out" and blunted as snowboarders were when they were accepted in... dont you remember how us skiers took all that style and attitude from them?... it has nothing to do with how people represent our sport, it has to do with money... and right now we dont have a big enough audience (last olympics over 20 million people watched snowboarding halfpipe... last X-games only 1 million viewers for skiers halfpipe)   not to mention that a lot of it has to do with most of the FIS assholes being way to traditionalistic... i mean skiercross still isnt an event when boardercross is... that doesnt make any sense either...


but back to op.. i think that skiers need that attitude and the shit-talking so that we get people pushing themselves and each other..  and whomever stated that a bunch of next level riders that are all doing new shit that all have different styles are undoubtedly gonna hate on each other a little... i mean im sure that there's plenty of big name pros out there that have a lot to say about toms style and the way he skis... but this is what will get those same athletes out there working harder and better to find and have a style that noones seen and dial tricks that noone else has.




Aug 12 2008 11:47AM
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PBraunstein
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oh and to add to my thoughts on the FIS assholes... i forget to mention that they still neglect to accept womens long jump... which i think is stupid (women are going just as far as men are now, some of them even farther) and they claim that their reasoning behind not letting them compete is that its "to dangerous"... what kind of fucking douche bags are these guys?
Aug 12 2008 11:50AM
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skimanskimanskim
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Haha, seriously? who cares
Aug 12 2008 12:12PM
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BlueSteele
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Sorry man, but in this industry there just aren't many who do that.
Aug 12 2008 12:21PM
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alpineplease
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1 footed grinds are unprofessional.
Aug 12 2008 12:29PM
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pscull03
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anything can seem professional

its all about the STTEEEZE son
Aug 12 2008 12:40PM
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Ben.
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that would be precisely my point...
Aug 12 2008 1:00PM
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Static
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damn that's fucked up, I'm glad you posted that tidbit
Aug 12 2008 1:07PM
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valentine*
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i always saw skiing as the one sport where everyone supports eachother
yeah so people have diff style and they point that out but they arent trying to like trash anyone, only help

Aug 12 2008 1:15PM
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EClay46
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if you recall at the OLYMPICS, yes the olympics the french 4 X 100m freestyle relay team said they were going to smash the americans. was that shit talking?
Aug 12 2008 2:10PM
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Ben.
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im not talking about mainstream sports. im talking the action sports community
Aug 12 2008 2:11PM
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Duncan*
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thats true not very many ppl that i no of follow a sport like do for skiing
Aug 12 2008 2:15PM
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LeoSpaceman
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no matter what at least a few people in any given sport will be shit talking, and in skiing i'd say there's some MORE shit talking to be done..
Aug 12 2008 3:06PM
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albatross.
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there are two types of skiing pros, the ones that flip through redbull rings of fire for money, and the ones that try to make the skiing they like redefine professional skiing (which in its current state is like a evel knievel show).

Skiing at this point is so backwards that when legitimate skiing pros raise concerns about where the sport is going they get shitted on. everything that isnt a neon print multi slowmo high def spinny flip is getting shitted on.



and the industry has the nerve to call ns haters while shitting on pretty much everything good that has attempted to surface in skiing for the last 5 years.



what im trying to say is, the pros are unprofessional cause freestyle skiing decided to become professional in its mannerisims, and in doing so lost alot of backing including that of people on their payrolls NAW MEAN

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Aug 12 2008 8:50PM
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schmies
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Well in comparison to 'professional level team sports', where athletes are out doping up on steroids, having sex with their underage drunk teenage daughter's friend, lying under oath to Congressional Investigation committees, raping women, carrying guns, getting shot with their posses in strip clubs, running underground dog fighting and gambling circuits and killing said dogs through electrocution, I think the current crop of skiing pros are doing just fine.
Aug 12 2008 9:08PM
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LeoSpaceman
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sounds like peter olenick
Aug 12 2008 9:12PM
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albatross.
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redundancy gives this paragraph girth.
Aug 12 2008 9:13PM
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General_Shredgnar
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hahahaha. Impressive conclusion.
Aug 12 2008 9:52PM
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skiEER
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your overreacting just because he shit on rollerblading
Aug 12 2008 9:57PM
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papasteeze
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HA!    a quote worth bringing to the top of Page 2
Aug 12 2008 10:01PM
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MadSteezin
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Thats because we have a whole site that basically anybody who is a "freestyle skier" uses. So its bound that style will be disputed between people on here.
Aug 12 2008 10:09PM
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travispersaud
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boxers talk a lot of shit ahah they fight before their fights
Aug 12 2008 10:28PM
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