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Alpha 1 VS> ARV

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AALT
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I got arv's never mounted or skied so im thinking i ski 70% park or 60% park and 30% pow. So i like the width on the ARV and the softness on my 07/08 ARV but like the rockered on the alpha and like the butterness on the alpha and shit. I want a good ski for great in the park and real nice booterage and floatage for powder. How much rocker is on the Alpha?

13, 100lbs about 5'1"

ARV 165

Aug 11 2008 2:41AM
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AALT
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oops ARV 165   120-89-109

Alpha 1 170    94-111-81-100-85


the demensions on the alpha are hella weird so im not sure about em.
Aug 11 2008 2:43AM
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kiwi_as
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haha yeah the elf shoe things pretty hard to get your head around. It sounds like you're asking whether you should sell/trade your ARV for the Alpha 1s, but I'd say stick with the ARV. To me taking the elf shoe thing to a park ski seems like more of a gimmick to sell units, and you won't really be able to know how they really ride for awhile until people that don't have connections to Armada have bought and ridden them. So yeah I'd say stick with the ARV, especially considering you like them already, and they sound like a good ski for you.
Aug 11 2008 5:54AM
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Uncle_Remus
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putting elf shoe in a park ski is not a gimmick its the beggining of a trend look at the moment reno rocker thats a park ski with reverse camber, elf shoe is a armada camber that is reverse in the tips and tails more ski company's are creating narrower skis with reverse or "elf shoe" camber technologies and this season it looks like almost every snowboarding comapny has put in a "park rocker" in at least 1 of thier freestyle boards. so last but not least elf shoe or what ever you call it is not a gimmick
Aug 11 2008 7:39AM
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Klick_2_klaim
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think... less catch on butters for the a1, and think awesome idea for rocker.
Aug 11 2008 10:23AM
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FUUUCK
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isnt elf shoe just a different name for prajekts dual camber idea?


anyway the ideas cool but the ski is way too ugly.
Aug 11 2008 10:28AM
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AALT
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so its like yes or no.. sell the arv's and get alpha's?   like does the elf shoe mean rockered? i like then just wish they were wider or something.
Aug 11 2008 4:18PM
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Duncan*
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personally i dont like the a1 i would stick wit the arvs and wiat fo some product reviews
Aug 11 2008 8:08PM
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freeskimccoy
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then get moment reno rockers, they are wider then alphas and they have been making em longer, therefore way sicker
Aug 11 2008 8:09PM
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AALT
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im 5'2" im 13, the rockers are like 181..... the biggest i want to go would be like 173 the 165 are already taller than me.
Aug 12 2008 12:05AM
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Mr.LemonPie
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Elf shoe is not the same as reverse camber or rocker or early rise. It is how the ski gets wider like a normal ski right after the binding, then narrows at the tip and tails, it is a 5 dimension ski. I think all the skis that have this have some sort of reverse camber, but I cant think of  another company besides armada has a 5 dimension ski.

Aug 12 2008 12:22AM
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Mr.LemonPie
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sorry for dub post, but to the thread creater i wouldnt get alpha 1s unless you have already tried a rockered ski in the park and like it. Because elf shoe is even different than that.
Aug 12 2008 12:24AM
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FNJ
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Elf Shoe TECH

http://armadaskis.com/product/skis/technology.php?section=elfshoe
Aug 12 2008 1:35AM
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AALT
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thanks man, it explains it. thats sick, but ima stay with my ARV's.
Aug 13 2008 8:33PM
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