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Whiteface vs. Jay

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dave...
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I'm a Jay weekend warrior(i own a pass), and I've been to whiteface once as a kid

my dilemma: i live 5 hours from jay, and I live 3 hours from whiteface

the passes are pretty much the same price, what should I do?

btw jay does not exist, Jay riders use code language
Jul 9 2008 9:21PM
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Parker.
Posts: 1637 - Karma: 108
i love jay, but i don't know if i love it enough to drive 4 extra hours (two there, two back) every time i wanna go skiing.  if i were you, i'd pick whiteface.
Jul 9 2008 9:38PM
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skiEER
Posts: 4089 - Karma: 79
id go to the closer i am only 45 min from Jay and i always end up skiing Burke more cause its only a ten minute drive
Jul 9 2008 9:41PM
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Malcolm
Posts: 15951 - Karma: 9,451

apperently jays supposed to get alot better this season. st sauveur sold it to some company(forgot the name) and theyre supposed to invest a ton of money on their mountain

Jul 9 2008 9:43PM
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psizzle
Posts: 1299 - Karma: 567
i go to whieface a ton and its been getting sicker every year, never been to jay but heard its sick but 5 hours is pretty long
Jul 9 2008 9:46PM
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Malcolm
Posts: 15951 - Karma: 9,451

actually im not sure if its supposed to be better or anything but theyre putting alot of money into it.
http://www.cjad.com/news/565/746915

Jul 9 2008 9:47PM
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martin.
Posts: 2115 - Karma: 34
I've been to both, and Jay is just amazing for tree skiing and powder and the like, but thier park is kidna lame. kinda. Whiteface, AKA "Iceface", is more of a "bomb down the mountain at mach 10" place. The park is better than Jay's though.

So:
Park-Whiteface
Skiing-Jay

Jul 9 2008 9:48PM
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LBJJ
Posts: 683 - Karma: 1,730
i ski whitey and its been getting better, they got some new stuff opening next season gunna be sick def worth it to go for whitey.
Jul 9 2008 9:49PM
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snwbrdmilf
Posts: 22441 - Karma: 2,806
Really I want to post and say not to cheat on Jay.

But, I must be logical. Think about the gas prices. It's an expensive sport, and it's only getting more $$. Go with Whiteface and make Jay a special event.
Jul 9 2008 10:16PM
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SnowRidgeParks
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at first thought i'd say Jay by a long shot... but then i look back on the two days i rode whiteface last season and actually for the 2nd and 3rd time ever skiing there rode good conditions. I used to ride face 5 times a year on average and before last season only had one good day. Used to hate it, but now I have some new feelings towards it. Park is getting better, not quite solid yet, but getting better. They're opening  some new terrain that looks sickkkk, and the summit is always dope. So I'm going to say, and I never thought I would say this over any mountain in VT, go with Whiteface.
Jul 9 2008 10:17PM
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Vino
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 Dont go at jay... it's boring.. valhalla and the face chute are the worst trails ever, and there's no Pow(it's only rain). go Whiteface and never go back to Jay..

[ PS. : dont you love my english? ]
Jul 9 2008 10:23PM
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JCsteezy
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i drive 6 hours from jersey to ski whiteface every weekenmd

i say whiteface is better
Jul 9 2008 10:24PM
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snwbrdmilf
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Your English is better than most Americans on this site.
Jul 9 2008 10:27PM
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Vino
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thanks for the comment.. by the way.. whiteface is the shit .. and jay peak is the poo
Jul 9 2008 10:30PM
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dandougherty
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i would say whiteface for sure, it's really big and steep (3430 vertical).  its icy sometimes, usally early season but when it snows it fucking snows, and it saves you 4 hours of driving so yeah id say whiteface

Jul 9 2008 10:33PM
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steezyjibber
Posts: 15967 - Karma: 11,026
eh i have a gore/whiteface seasons pass
not a big fan of whiteface
however you say its a 2 hours shorter trip
do whiteface and you get gore too
Jul 9 2008 10:35PM
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PeeDuBzz
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whiteface is awsome... their park keeps gettin better. they added a sick dfd and tons of rails and shit.
Jul 9 2008 11:31PM
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smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,375
find a partner and split the gas to jay. 3 hours vs 5..... go to jay. 2000 2001 jay peak had the most snow in the USA
Jul 9 2008 11:37PM
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Joan
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ok i ski at whiteface, ive only been to jay once and it was icy and shitty, so i have a bad first impression. But whiteface will be adding a whole new section of the mountain expanding with a new chairlift. My friend, who is also the park manager, has been working up there on the trails and says they will be unreal, lottss and lotss of new glades that will only expand to the mountain that is already sick mountain.

As far as thier park goes its bene getting more and mroe solid every year, and the park staff really takes info account the rider imput. Id say there, but there is no denying jays sickness either
Jul 9 2008 11:43PM
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BobYohan
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damn, we'll see if this is a good thing. investing money need not have anything to do with skiing, jays real estate and 'village' has always been understated which is one of the things i love about it.  hope i can still buy my avila/jay Big Pass.

but whatever jay SUCKS ass anyways, i for one will NOT be goin there again this winter, im fed up with it sucking so much, see you guys at stowe! right guys?
Jul 10 2008 1:25AM
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Vino
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does it mean jay peak won't be on the '' Grosse Passe'' anymore...
Jul 10 2008 11:55AM
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skibum00
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Whiteface Avg Snowfall - 168"
Jay Peak Avg Snowfall - 388"
That's 220 extra reasons to go to Jay.



Jul 10 2008 12:05PM
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FUUUCK
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white face is huge but it just doesnt get the same snow.

park vs. pow.
Jul 10 2008 12:09PM
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KL.
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YO dude seriously get a whiteface pass because it is a shorter drive. sick skiing, really good park, and u also get a pass to gore which has really good glades that no one knows about for pow days. There is also a sick crew of kids at whiteface and gore
Jul 10 2008 12:24PM
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smuggs
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is whiteface really averaging 168 inches of snow!!!!!! thta is fuckin stoopid. no question jay peak
Jul 10 2008 12:41PM
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Malcolm
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nope i dont think ull be able to ride at jay anymore with an avila pass
Jul 10 2008 12:52PM
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skibum00
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I pulled that number from their website.
Jul 10 2008 12:55PM
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FreshCoast
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FYI:  The plan is to replace the cables on the tram this offseason.  They are also tearing down the hotel and building a new and bigger one.  They are making a new base area past the current tram base and planning on building a huge indoor waterpark and another hotel.  Then assuming that they can get all the permits they are planning on finally cutting trails in the west bowl and putting up a lift, however don't get too excited because its supposed to only intermediate terrain (but hopefully it will open up some new glades).
Jul 10 2008 1:17PM
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yelsel
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Honestly Jay sucks. Its always raining up there and then it freezes over. If you like skiing on ice, Jay is the place to be. Everyone up there is snobs, tree skiing is non-existent, and its sooo incredibly expensive.

Just go to Whiteface its way better and they get sooooo much snow you wont be disappointed.

Jul 10 2008 1:39PM
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PASKIINGSUCKS
Posts: 9097 - Karma: 777
What she said, worst conditions I skied all last year.
Jul 10 2008 2:37PM
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ahmedthesailor
Posts: 314 - Karma: 38
im glad jay has a lame park, less gay little snow boarders. but seiously, if people keep talking about jay im gonna shit a brick. Lift lines were bad enough last year...
Jul 10 2008 2:41PM
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mariob
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where do u live
Jul 10 2008 2:45PM
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dave...
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jul 10 2008 4:37PM
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skiRay
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dave, go to whiteface. everyonecalls it whiteface, but for real, its not that bad. when it snows, it really snows.. the glades are obviouly not like jay, but they are steep and challenging. also as jake said, the new Lookout peak is impervious to wind, and will hold snow.. but overall, its worth getting a pass. also, a lot of really good skiiers are there.. you'll get to know everyone too.
hope to see you there!
Jul 10 2008 5:37PM
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canudoa9
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i would say that you could have some other choices other than just Whiteface and Jay
Jul 10 2008 6:25PM
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Treestman
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So i go to college thats 3 hours from jay and 1.5 form whiteface, and i got both passes.

When it snowed, i went to jay, and for park i went to wf. But due to the diustance of jay from me i only got 10 at jay and about 40 at wf.

O, and i got the passes real cheap, combined i spent 440.

now i have barely any money this year, so its gonna be a hard decision for me. i dont know.


Jays park was realy crappy until march. but the snow is so much better
and its true whiteface is real icy, but the park was pretty good all year long
Jul 10 2008 6:42PM
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JCsteezy
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again.... whiteface
and the second picture on the link vvvv is all the new glades
http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/onmtn.php
Jul 10 2008 7:31PM
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jaypeakid89
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yo man my family owns a house at jay and is close with bill stenger who is the president and now one of the owners of jay peak. I wouldnt get your hopes up about any of that stuff happening. I was just up there last week and no work was being done on the lifts also the west bowl has been in the works for the past ten or so years. As for the hotel they are supposed to start that this summer but we will see if that happens.
Jul 10 2008 7:41PM
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snwbrdmilf
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Aww I was just going to post that.
Jul 10 2008 8:00PM
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Malcolm
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yea if anything jay will lose money since so many people from st sauveur wont be going anymore. i could be wrong tho theyre probably going to make it into somekind of tourist spot
Jul 10 2008 8:27PM
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StanMcStanson
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Whiteface's park has gotten pretty decent the last few years.  I've only been to Jay once, and got some mad powder, but the park was pretty crappy.  Whiteface is usually icy, but has some sick tree skiing that often have hidden pow stashes.  I would choose Whitey, but haven't skied enough at Jay to make a judgment.
Jul 10 2008 8:44PM
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raddar
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i heard jay is closing down for good.  not even turning the wheels on the tram once this coming year.  spread the word, not even worth traveling up there
Jul 10 2008 8:56PM
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Vtsnowski
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Go to timbuktu so worth it
Jul 10 2008 8:59PM
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Malcolm
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whered u hear that?
Jul 10 2008 9:02PM
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liukangkid
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i hear gore is supposed to be putting in some new trails for next season

and the difference is definitly not worth an extra 2 hours
Jul 10 2008 9:50PM
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skiRay
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yeah gore is putting in a few new trails/ lift i believe.. although they get a bit more snow than whiteface, its not nearly as steep. and dont even get me started on the park
Jul 11 2008 12:57PM
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JHDski47
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easily jay.  the face chutes are the most fun thing ever when theres powder.....which there always is and theres nice rocks to hit in the woods along with the best glades ive ever ridden.  I live like 5 and a half hours away and still go up there.
Jul 11 2008 2:34PM
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FreshCoast
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My source for that information was Bill himself and check out this article: http://business.transworld.net/2008/07/01/jay-peak-resort-sold-to-long-time-resort-president-bill-stenger-and-group-of-private-investors/   Says they already broken ground on the first hotel.  Its happening.
Jul 11 2008 2:59PM
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Vino
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i think jay peak isnt on the mssi pass anymore ... read it
http://www.jaypeakresort.com/en/jay_peak/295/

Jul 11 2008 9:50PM
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FellowJibber
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its definitley not worth the drive all the time. if i were you, id stay at home and play jibberish on your computer all day
Jul 11 2008 10:03PM
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ahmedthesailor
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jay sucks, always icy, supa gay
Jul 11 2008 11:31PM
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