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linejibber550
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KISS, Motley Crue, and AC/DC are the fucking coolest rock bands ever! theres more but i cant think of em someone add more hardcore rock bands to the list
Oct 19 2003 7:26PM
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ReggaeConcept1
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um, i wouldnt call it hardcore. i think that Underoath is hardcore. those bands are more like old hard rock, not hardcore. underoath and bad luck 13 are hardcore


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Oct 19 2003 7:34PM
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IN FLAMES!!! most hardcore EVER
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Oct 19 2003 8:14PM
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icecreamsandwich
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he called them hardcore rock...not hardcore. and underoath is not really hardcore. they are more on the emo side. but yeah...they are awesome.


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Oct 19 2003 8:15PM
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ThisAngelicRage
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You want HAAAARDCORE? What about CARRY ON, CHAMPION, BANE, MAROON, HATEBREED. Suckahs.






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Oct 19 2003 8:52PM
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weazelzb
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Oct 19 2003 8:57PM
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Bob_Loblaw
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motley crue is horrible. acdc is good. some kiss is ok. u suck.
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Oct 19 2003 9:41PM
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JibbaJabba
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those are all butt-rock bands. hardcore be ItDiesToday, AsILayDying, and more names that elude to death.

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Oct 19 2003 9:57PM
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linejibber550
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i didnt mean HARDCORE as in hardcore i meant hardcore as in real rock not 'who can play the loudest G chord and scream the loudest'


Oct 19 2003 10:07PM
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winterparksuks
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whitesnake,pantera,fear factory,slayer,soundgarden (in there own way
they are hardcore)
black sabbath, iron maiden,gun guru,and the misfits are all pretty sick



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Oct 19 2003 10:19PM
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linejibber550
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ya def iron maiden, misfits fucking kickass but i dont really classif them as rock i guess they are but they are pretty much there own genre noone really has tried to copy them, and they have there own sound




Oct 19 2003 10:24PM
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lanks
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underoath. another amazing product of solid state recs. woot


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Oct 19 2003 10:31PM
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weazelzb
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van halen


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Oct 20 2003 6:33PM
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Nickskier
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last time i check, In Flames was metal. In fact, most of what people say 'hardcore' should be called metal, but call it what you want.
Oct 20 2003 9:55PM
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icecreamsandwich
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^ yea i agree.


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Oct 20 2003 10:42PM
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ThisAngelicRage
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There's a difference between metal and hardcore. Basically, hardcore has a breakdown and metal doesn't. Metal sometimes has a bridge or a solo but no breakdown. And a breakdown is what makes the song which is why metal sucks and hardcore doesn't suck. Well some metal doesn't suck. But anyways, people just assume anything with screaming is metal which isn't true.






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Oct 20 2003 10:54PM
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JibbaJabba
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^ what the fuck are you talking about metal not having breakdowns? listen to It Dies Today or As I Lay Dying, I would call them metal and they have the most brutal breakdown EVER.

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Oct 20 2003 10:58PM
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ThisAngelicRage
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that's an illegitimate argument fool. Not to say it couldn't be..... metalcore?? The basic difference difference between the two genres is as stated above but things mix and there are other technical differences that I wouldn't bother listing if I were paid.






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Oct 20 2003 11:04PM
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JibbaJabba
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^ fuck you and your genres. That's why the scene is so lame because everyone is so concerned with what everything 'is' so that they now how to classify themselves. Metal and hardcore are so close together that it is pointless to differentiate them. It is the same as people classifying emo-core and screamo as two different genres.

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Oct 20 2003 11:29PM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
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ah, see being technical about things is waht ruins them. yes it may give it a category, but then you have to learn the categories. so fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that, because thats excessive effort so fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you.
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Oct 20 2003 11:38PM
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TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsJik
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what's butt rock? I keep hearing that term...in reference to rock n' roll...the only true rock n' roll in my mind is 74-93 metal

and van halen isn't really that hardcore..their one of the softer bands...try Queensryche or anthrax, or some of the acid rock from the 80s you'll head bang your head clean off



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Oct 20 2003 11:40PM
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JibbaJabba
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butt rock is a general term for hair metal

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Oct 21 2003 12:47AM
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Line1260
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wanna hear some real rock and fuckin roll? get hip to The Dragons, Riverboat Gamblers, Supersuckers, stuff like that. suckas


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Oct 21 2003 12:49AM
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ThisAngelicRage
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'fuck you and your genres'

I have gone through this on NS before and I will again, yeah yeah classification, judgement, and genres and all that shit may suck but what it comes down to is that you either have to classify people or sub cultures. Keep it possi fellas.






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Oct 21 2003 3:11PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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^no

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Oct 21 2003 3:30PM
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Nickskier
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dude, one of the problems is they all overlap onto eachother. No, there will not be a final agreement on what classifies a metal or hardcore band. So seriously, everyone can stop busting out all their 'superior knowledge'.
Oct 21 2003 3:56PM
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TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsJik
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hair metal? butt rock? where are these terms coming from?

In my day it was glam rock--Poison, Motley Crue, Cinderella,
Hard Rock--Skid Row, G n' R, Ratt, Dokken
Heavy Metal--Queensryche, KISS, Leppard, Nugent

sorta like that was how we did it...but mostly it was just ROOOOOOOOCk and RoOoOoOoOll!



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Oct 23 2003 11:49PM
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my nickname is negatron
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you bettter still have my jagermeister shirt, or I'll fucking drive a train through your anus. – jibtech
numbers are for jewish investment bankers - sleezemcfly
Somedays I like it crunchy, other days I take it up the ass! - Lanemeyers
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Oct 24 2003 12:01AM
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JibbaJabba
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all the bands you just mentioned are nowadays classified simply as butt-rock

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Oct 24 2003 12:06AM
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TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsJik
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oh god no!!! jibbajabba, tell me it ain't true!!! I'm gonna go head-bang myself to sleep now...and dream of how the world once was



I was born, a six gun in my hand...they call me Bad Company

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Oct 24 2003 12:29AM
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JibbaJabba
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yeah sorry but its true.

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Oct 24 2003 9:05AM
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TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsJik
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crap.



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Oct 24 2003 6:21PM
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lagwagon
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sick of it all is pretty hard core or the unseen or the exploited.
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Oct 25 2003 4:01AM
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RiverRipper
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Lagwagon please dont post on the subject of music anymore...I saw Sick of it All and thought you had potential on that one but then you mentioned The Unseen and Exploited as hardcore...which they are far from being.

ThisAngelicRage is the only one here who mentioned real hardcore bands...despite my hate for Carry On for what they were. Hardcore is more than music too, its a life style for a lot of people. For real hardcore check out Blood for Blood, The Promise, Terror, Mental, Outbreak, Modern Life is War, Embrace Today and the always popular but god knows why American Nightmare (Give up the ghost). Old school hardcore is Black Flag, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Slapshot, SSD, and Agnostic Front.

Hardcore breakdowns are pretty much mosh parts, and hardcore moshing is not like metal moshing. Its not pushing and shoving, it involves more punching, spin kicks, and stomping. There is an AFI (leaving song 2) video on MTV that has some real moshing going on, plus has edge kids X-ing up, but they also show kids putting on masks which is gay...funny thing is they were playing Hatebreed and Madball for the kids to dance to.


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Oct 25 2003 8:51PM
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Nickskier
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Converge.. whatwhat? I think the saddest day is their best song.
Oct 25 2003 10:16PM
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Vtsnowski
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rock on man, rock on




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Oct 25 2003 10:19PM
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icecreamsandwich
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im going to see unearth and killswitch engage this wednesday. yeay.


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Oct 26 2003 12:55PM
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JibbaJabba
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^ that will be a sick show

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Oct 26 2003 1:25PM
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ductapeboy
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yes yes it will. but really... how can you say there are no break downs in metal, but there are in hardcore? there is a huge over lap in the two genres, but that is just cuz of a huge sweedish metal influence in modern hardcore. hardcore music originated from punk. then came your hardcore punk, then sweedish metal started taking shit from hardcore, and then it all came together to get what we have now. and most modern bands are metal core bands... but it is really become extremely silly to try and destinguish all all this crap. hmm.
any ways.... unearth is a great band, and wednesday is gona kick ass.



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Oct 26 2003 6:26PM
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pag
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rock on!
Rock'n roll will never die...
Cheerleader666,ACDC,Mötley Crüe,KISS,Iron Maiden, Motörhead, The Kinks, Thin Lizzy, Van Halen!
This is rock'n roll man
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Oct 26 2003 9:17PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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I like At the Drive In.
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Oct 26 2003 10:41PM
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jo-skis
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yeh Blood for Blood is pretty hardcore....I'm listening to In Flames right now, sooo good.

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Oct 28 2003 7:48PM
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manwiththemetalleg
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Genre's suck, they are the cause of most argueing about music, people should just stop bitching about what is what and just listen to the shit.


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Oct 29 2003 4:28PM
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Lateralis
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godsmack is hardcore


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Nov 1 2003 2:17PM
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blind_five
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Hatebreed, Coal Chamber's older stuff, Snot (now there's a band that is not played enough). These are some good hardcore bands.

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Nov 1 2003 2:27PM
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Pipe_Munky
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blood for blood is fucking insane! so is hatebreed and atreyu!



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Nov 1 2003 5:41PM
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RiverRipper
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I was in NYC to see some bands one night...and some New York hardcore guys who played in a band called Fury of V beat the shit out of a couple dudes from coal chamber...funny shit.

PS godsmack is not hardcore its metal. Hatebread does rule though.


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Nov 1 2003 11:32PM
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bloodhound gang
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Nov 2 2003 7:24PM
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Concord
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SlAyEr

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Nov 4 2003 9:48AM
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icecreamsandwich
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JUDE THE OBSCURE.


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Nov 4 2003 9:51AM
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MoRBiuZ
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cradle of filth..........
Cojí un CD le hice una raja, y me escondí entre el bombo y la caja.... SFDK spanish HH
Nov 4 2003 9:59AM
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