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Does momentum actually make you wear a helmet

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I_ski123
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i'm just wondering becasue i no COC doesn't care they say yous hould but some people didn't and they didn't care
Jun 27 2008 11:30PM
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Mstchief
Posts: 751 - Karma: 524
they did two years ago
Jun 28 2008 12:02AM
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ben802
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helmets are good....wear them for sure.
Jun 28 2008 12:21AM
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Ben.
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why wouldnt u wear one?
Jun 28 2008 1:56AM
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Malcolm
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i always wear one
Jun 28 2008 2:39AM
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sirskizalot
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i dont wear helmets cus i love smashing my head on rails and stuff.
Jun 28 2008 2:41AM
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dave44
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same here. it feels loverly
Jun 28 2008 2:43AM
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Franny
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Just wear one. When the time comes, you'll be glad you had one.
Jun 28 2008 3:32AM
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Franny
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Especially if you are jbbin, greater chance of you hitting your head of a rail.
Jun 28 2008 3:33AM
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Ryanvdonk
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i dont cause i get a better feel on those headplant flips.
Jun 28 2008 3:34AM
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meggers
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yea they make you wear one....but its not a bad thing.....helmets are good
Jun 28 2008 12:38PM
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Karcher
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seriously why wouldnt you wear one? oh yah i guess you look a lot more badass
Jun 28 2008 12:39PM
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reverendwrong
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u look completely badass until u smack ur head and end up like terri shaivo
Jun 28 2008 12:41PM
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hey_dude_its_me
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ahahahah
Jun 28 2008 12:48PM
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heFF
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ya they do...i'm not a fan of wearing a helmet cuz i skateboarded for 3 eyars and never wore won and now i'm just never stoked to wear one especially when it's hot out and i gotta wear a hat underneath...not a fan
Jun 28 2008 12:58PM
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panojibber
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I am an asshole for doing this, but....
Look at his best tricks and you will see why he doesn't need one...
https://www.newschoolers.com/web/members/profile/member_id/102747/

Seriously though, get yourself a helmet, no reason not to, its safe, comfy and warm! Not to mention far more conducive to stickering than a hat.
Jun 28 2008 3:21PM
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huge-go
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Why wouldn't you just take the hat off?  You lose the heat and you're safer.  Besides I'd rather have a mildly sweaty head than a bashed in head.

Jun 28 2008 4:50PM
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Ben.
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hmm sweaty hot head vs. brain damage. its a tough one but i think im gonna have to say id rather sweat

Jun 28 2008 4:56PM
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Peter.
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there really isnt a reason not to, and if you get a sweaty head you are wearing it wrong, ive worn a helmet every time ive skied and havent had a sweaty head lol
Jun 28 2008 5:10PM
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bhill2.0
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How could you be so stupid
Jun 28 2008 6:10PM
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cfox
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saaaame
Jun 28 2008 8:58PM
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860
Posts: 2930 - Karma: 166
when did all of you turn into his mom? Let him do what he wants is his choice
Jun 28 2008 10:16PM
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Ben.
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im more just defending momentum. it makes sense that they dont want to get sued and in skiing unlike skateboarding its "socially acceptable" to wear a helmet. its kinda stupid not to at this point unless you enjoy concussions and brain damage
Jun 28 2008 10:32PM
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FellowJibber
Posts: 476 - Karma: 12
shouldnt it be a user's choice? its your own risk
Jun 29 2008 4:04PM
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Shorton
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even if they dont, wear one for your own good. You'd be stupid not too
Jun 29 2008 4:46PM
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Sir_SkrillALot
Posts: 1736 - Karma: 668
let the rider do what he wants. If he gets hurt then its his fault you sign a waiver for a reason.
Jun 29 2008 4:48PM
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Aaaron.
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having personally watched an inexperienced snowboarder brain an unsuspecting gayper (in the head, mind you)
i will always wear a helmet.....
Jun 29 2008 4:52PM
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Trennon
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Hey everyone,

Just so you know, the decision is not up to us (Momentum), it is an insurance requirement, from both our insurers and Whistler Blackcomb's.

For us to get insurance (which is A: required to operate a camp and B: harder to get all the time because of lawsuits etc) insurance companies need to know that we are operating as safely as possible, and that includes a helmet requirement. It's not something that can be avoided with waivers, it's just the way it is these days....
Jun 29 2008 5:01PM
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I_ski123
Posts: 421 - Karma: 24
i would wear a helmet anyway i no there good for u but last year at CoC they didn't mind if people weren't wearing one they advised it was good to wear one but never enforced rules on it i was wondering if momentum was the same
Jun 29 2008 5:03PM
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Aaaron.
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end of discussion.
Jun 29 2008 5:03PM
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Atypical
Posts: 1339 - Karma: 45
"does momentum actually make you wear a helmet?"
yes

why?
short answer. Yes. Long answer, you're a tool for not wanting to wear one at a camp where you go to try stuff you've never done before.

Honestly, just getting nail by a gaper is enough to give you brain damage, what do you think will happen if you eat shit on a rail?


Jun 29 2008 6:10PM
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860
Posts: 2930 - Karma: 166
I heard they're having a sale on wrist guards this weekend at wal-mart, you should prob check that out. Seriously get off this kids back, you honestly think people who don't wear helmets are stupid?
Jun 29 2008 6:29PM
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richards
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id get fucking owned if i didnt wear one
fallin on ur head sucks
Jun 29 2008 6:38PM
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papasteeze
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people who who don't wear helmets and huck themselves over and onto stuff harder than their head are stupid.
Jun 29 2008 7:00PM
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860
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is it really that big of a deal? I mean wear one if you want, its fine but you can't really hate on people for not wearing one, the majority of pros don't wear one and they do way crazier stuff than anyone on here
Jun 29 2008 7:20PM
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Mr.LemonPie
Posts: 4100 - Karma: 1,625
correction, the majority of pros DO where helmets, alot don't when they are filming, but when they are training they wear helmets.
Jun 29 2008 7:47PM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
No, not really.

But in time more will, mostly because as the current pros retire, they will be replaced by the ones who grew up with helmets on. It is now a socially accepted practice, and soon it will probably be a law, unfortunately.

It's funny how many parents think it's absolutely insane to let a child ski or bike without a helmet, or ride in a car without a carseat, etc. Even though most of these things are fairly new developments, and millions of people grew up skiing and biking without helmets, riding in cars without carseats etc, and yet somehow the majority of them miraculously survived.

If you all grew up wearing helmets everytime you rode in a car, then you would think that anyone who rode in a car without one was crazy.
Jun 29 2008 8:11PM
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Mr.LemonPie
Posts: 4100 - Karma: 1,625

Who doesn't? No big time pros don't wear helmets.

Jun 29 2008 8:12PM
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SirFryanator
Posts: 11149 - Karma: 1,415
dude, they always wear helmets in the big mountain, and always when learning new tricks. jon, simon, tanner, colby, jossi, everyone. they all wear helmets when training and sometimes when filming they don't because they know how to throw the tricks in their sleep for the most part.

It's simply straight up dumb to not wear a helmet. I don't care, lower my karma, whatever, but I don't think it should be a choice.
Jun 29 2008 8:18PM
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tride
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All due respect, but just for the sake of debate, you realize that there are quite a few sports where people do "huck themselves over and onto stuff harder than their heads" without helmets.

- Trampoline (lots of people get head injuries from hitting the frame)
- Gymnastics (Bars, Vaults, etc) produces some head injuries too
- Skateboarding
- Diving (head injuries from hitting the platform or board are actually quite common)
- Surfing (hitting the reef headfirst has killed lots of people, and even though surf helmets have been around for a long time, nobody thinks twice about people surfing reef breaks without one)

It's just interesting that nobody would consider these athletes to be "stupid" for not wearing helmets, but they think that skiers and boarders without helmets are "stupid".
Jun 29 2008 8:21PM
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papasteeze
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ok you win, its smart to not wear a helmet cause none of the other sports are doing it. :P
Jun 29 2008 8:29PM
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tride
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Naaw, that's not what I was getting at. I guess I should have said that I DO think wearing a helmet is a good idea.

I was just trying to point out the differences in perception and "perceived danger". It's like when people are super scared to bungy jump (a safe activity) but not at all scared to drive around the block (which in reality is way more dangerous).

That's not to say that skiing is not dangerous, because we know that it is. So yeah, wear a helmet.
Jun 29 2008 8:41PM
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papasteeze
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hahaha  I hear ya,  but you said - debate!  ....      oh believe me..  I will defend a persons "right" do to whatever they please to themselves. Don't wear a helmet, hell I am one of those stupid people that doesn't wear one. Just don't come crying when you have cracked your head, or worse out on the slope.

I also think it is silly that a lot of kids won't wear padding either cause they don't want their friends to know or they want to be more comfortable. The padding will allow more time out on the slopes doing what these kids enjoy.... but no.......    hahaha  dumb..




Jun 29 2008 9:00PM
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tride
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From a neuroscience paediactric study on trampolines:

"The majority of injuries involved children between 5 and 15 years old. Although injuries to the leg, foot, arm and hand were most common, 14% of the injuries were to the head or face. About 15% of all head injuries involved fractures, concussions and internal head injuries. Most injuries occurred on home trampolines, and ranged in seriousness from sprains and broken bones to spinal cord trauma and head injury. "

The point being: do any of you wear a helmet on the tramp? Papa do you make your son wear a helmet on the tramp? Probably not, but why? It's just an interesting look at how people's viewpoints are as much affected by social practices, as they are by actual risk stats.
Jun 29 2008 9:01PM
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SirFryanator
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skiing injuries are potentially much more deadly than tramp head injuries. since you're going at a much faster speed and falling a much greater distance.
Jun 29 2008 9:02PM
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tride
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That's correct, although it's not much of an argument because people do still die from tramp head injuries.

And if you want to use that logic, then you could also say that car crashes are potentially more deadly than skiing head injuries, so by your logic you should wear a helmet whenever you get a ride to the hill....do you?
Jun 29 2008 9:10PM
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papasteeze
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I try not to make him do anything...  Education is key.  I don't however let them double bounce each other (well OK I have backed off that now)  because thats when a large variable gets thrown in that throws them off and they are more likely to land funny. Mostly because  , I told him I am digging the tramp into the ground when he gets back. 


  I try and  provide the information say simply.  you play you pay. be smart about things .
Jun 29 2008 9:15PM
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tride
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Now that is how I define smart... that is a perfect way to look at it.
Jun 29 2008 9:20PM
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BKlein
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They say you have to but if you dont wear one they rarely notice or care.
Jun 29 2008 9:21PM
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SirFryanator
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no, you wear a seatbelt.
Jun 29 2008 10:03PM
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