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Wide Angle Lens..

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.jr
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getting annoyed with me yet?

 Ive got my video camera and a fish eye and I love it, but now I need to get a wide angle lens.. I want a one that is fairly cheap and does not have to be the best. Im looking to spend $30 and it needs to fit a 37 mm thread..

Also can someone explain to me the magnification ratings for  these lenses? Will you see more with a .38x lens or a .5x?
Jun 26 2008 6:50PM
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EH_DUBS
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well that seems like a pretty cheap price
but its also small...i dont really know prices on these things

but a .5 will be a wider lens
so youl see more

thats what i think you were asking at least
Jun 26 2008 8:11PM
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miroz
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^no

.5x is not "wider"...its more of a wide angle, and its the one I would buy.  .38x is more towards fisheye status.  At least thats what I think, I'm not sure, but I'd put money on that
Jun 26 2008 8:25PM
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EH_DUBS
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yeah your right
i dont know why but i read that as like .88 or something weird

my bad.
Jun 26 2008 8:41PM
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dave44
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Why'd you get a fisheye. What a waste of money. Too much distortion
Jun 26 2008 9:10PM
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.jr
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because I like fish eye? why else? and would a .5x be fine for me.. Im mostly beginner. An allen I dont have any shops around here that could help me with this.. the only photo stores are both going out of business and my next guess would be best buy and I dont like them.
Jun 27 2008 1:30AM
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marc_sncl
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the ratings on these things lie, at least the rating on mine did...

so the one i have is supposed to be 0.43x and i can barely be called a wide angle

the one my buddy has is 0.40x and they don't even compare at all!

so try it yourself
Jun 27 2008 8:07AM
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Static
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shut up
Jun 27 2008 9:42AM
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396222687862
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get a raynox wide angle. the 6600HD pro is sick, high quality, gotta throw more than 100 bucks down, but its worth it forsure.
Jun 27 2008 10:36AM
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.jr
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well Im just looking for a cheap set up.. I mean I have a nice camera but its no prosumer camera so Im not really looking to drop $100 on a $350 camera.

Can someone please explain the ratings to me?
Jun 27 2008 5:18PM
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tBatt
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http://cgi.ebay.com/WIDE-ANGLE-LENS-45X-37MM-37-mm-FOR-JVC-SONY-PANASONIC_W0QQitemZ120277319353QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120277319353&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

this is the one i have. so far ive had no problems with it, and its $28 including shipping.


Jun 27 2008 7:14PM
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.jr
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how do you like the lens? how wide is it?
Jun 28 2008 12:05AM
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.jr
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explain the lens ratings to me please!
Jun 30 2008 11:20PM
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dave44
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the lower the number the more it "zooms out" and the wider the angle you'll get

Jun 30 2008 11:36PM
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.jr
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dave stop being the superhero and saving my ass evertime. ha just kidding - give that man some karma cause ive already maxed out awhile ago..
Jun 30 2008 11:39PM
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dave44
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i don't think i'm even right on that one lol
Jun 30 2008 11:46PM
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.jr
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well its true for fish eyes.. maybe the same for wide angle lenss?
Jun 30 2008 11:51PM
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FellowJibber
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i dont get whats the diff between wide angle and fisheye
Jul 3 2008 1:11AM
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.jr
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wide angle you see more without a round distortion.. fish eye you get the round effect..
Jul 3 2008 1:13AM
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leckett1
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Pretty much. It's not technically a 'rating' it's a magnification. A lens zoomed completely out on the camera (neutral) has a value of '1' lets say. The 0.43 would pretty much be a fraction, so 43/100 and it would be like zoomed below 1 to 0.43. So the lower you go, 0.38, would be zoomed out even further. Now the reason fisheye's and wide angles differ from eachother is the glass isn't formed with the same curvature as eachother; not universal, but the magnification is the same. So you essentially have to find a lens that you like. If there is no vignetting on the lens, then the shape of the glass will make all the difference, even when it comes to magnification because you won't be seeing everything the lens is picking up.

Does me make sense?

Jul 3 2008 12:32PM
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kfilenda
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Ive tried to use cheap lenses, destortion is horrid, also alot of cleaning involved, there is multiple surfaces in which dirt can "fester", thats just my thought on cheap lenses
Jul 3 2008 11:39PM
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