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Stiff park skis...

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luxuryduck
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So, any disadvantages for having a stiff ski for park? seems like all the standard 'park' skis like scratchs n such are noodles.
Oct 18 2003 4:49PM
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wiglaf
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u can land alot better with stiffer skis, softer tails can give out, if u can back seat
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Oct 18 2003 4:56PM
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Krongos
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i like a stiffer ski, armadas, 4frnts, public enemy's and mad trix are stiff for park skis, yeah its frustrating looking for good park skis that are stifgf because most are flexi as hell and it sucks
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Oct 18 2003 5:54PM
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phUnk
Posts: 647 - Karma: 35
What advantages would a stiff park ski give you?


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Oct 18 2003 6:38PM
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rossi900
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more pop in the pipe and like someone already said if ya land backseat your tails have less of a chance of blowing out..i blew out the nose on mad trix but that was back in the day when i was learning spins and getting of axis..my speech is done.


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Oct 18 2003 7:20PM
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DHogg
Posts: 3462 - Karma: 237
its so much funner to have a soft ski so u can butter real long and easy adn shit but stiff is good for the pop too
Oct 18 2003 8:19PM
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sacha
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im pretty stiff down my pants right now.


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Oct 18 2003 8:29PM
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hexum
Posts: 840 - Karma: 10
are 1080s stiff compared to pes


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Oct 18 2003 8:39PM
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ReggaeConcept1
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^no they arent


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Oct 18 2003 8:47PM
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Jib_This
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stiff park ski is nice when you're landing airs. Your tail doesn't wash out. More pop, feels more solid.




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Oct 18 2003 8:57PM
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jib_tech
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mad trix where its at.




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Oct 18 2003 10:33PM
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James_Potter
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would the 1080 be considered stiff.
Oct 18 2003 11:24PM
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dutch1
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no, they have the foam core, as well as they are designed softer in the tip and tail.


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Oct 19 2003 11:26AM
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hexum
Posts: 840 - Karma: 10
dammit, well at least i got a good deal on them


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Oct 19 2003 11:59AM
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wolfmansbro
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yeah 1080 is a soft ski and will only getting softer as time goes on b/c its foam. you should have gotten a wood core ski
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Oct 19 2003 2:54PM
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hexum
Posts: 840 - Karma: 10
great, i feel smart after putting down 400 for skis and bindings... which if i htink about it isnt bad


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Oct 19 2003 5:24PM
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Freeskier22
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^stole my icon^
Oct 19 2003 5:38PM
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skierdude67
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the new scratcths not the fs, just the scracthes are stiff, nice and stiff



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Oct 19 2003 7:05PM
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jib_tech
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what kind of core does the mad trix have?




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Oct 19 2003 8:55PM
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3ski6guy0
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4FRNT MSP = maple core = very strong/durable = kick ass = you should buy it


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Oct 19 2003 9:06PM
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phUnk
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jib_tech: MadTrix is a wood core ski.


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Oct 20 2003 12:40PM
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Jammu
Posts: 1796 - Karma: 328
haha armadas are not stiff, my friend has them. PE's are pretty stiff...
Oct 20 2003 2:39PM
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l_KeViN_l
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now wait a minute, just because pe's are stiffer than 1080's doesn't mean you got a bum deal.
The 1080's are designed that way so that landings are easier (ie you don't hit hard with tip/tail and bail).

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Oct 20 2003 4:08PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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Armadas are stiff, I've rode them last year, and the 4frnt MSPs seem really stiff too. PERFECT!
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Oct 20 2003 4:26PM
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winterparksuks
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volkl v pros are the stiffest park ski out there
and they kick ass



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Oct 20 2003 4:49PM
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Ryno
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the mad trix quite purdy stiff, compared to my 'noodly' 1260's

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Oct 20 2003 7:50PM
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Vtsnowski
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my 1080s from 2 years ago are stiff




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Oct 20 2003 8:39PM
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fred_reykdal
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does anyone know how the new mad trix are?
Oct 20 2003 10:04PM
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phUnk
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^^^^^^^^ The new madtrix are just last year's madtrix with new graphics and a new topsheet. This means they're still pretty stiff.


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Oct 21 2003 12:13AM
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Kev
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the new top sheet is also has more scratch resistate.
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Oct 21 2003 12:16AM
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Jammu
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my pe's are stiffer than armadas...
Oct 21 2003 1:07AM
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rwkobs
Posts: 286 - Karma: 10
Concepts are the stiffest ski for park...go to a shop and flex them for yourself. I hear that the Armadas have a similar stiffness, but I haven't ridden them.
Oct 21 2003 7:53PM
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3ski6guy0
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dont get concepts, get some MSPs


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Oct 21 2003 7:56PM
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OReJow
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stiff skis will give you better, more solid landings IF you are landing them right. they are NOT forgiving though, go backseat and they will kick your ass, whereas you might be able to pull some kind of landing out of a softer tail. i know we've all seen people ride out some really sketch landings on pocket rockets. soft= easier, but not better. stiff skis will be better at most everything, you just need to be activly piloting them if you know what i mean.

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Oct 21 2003 10:55PM
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Jammu
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'Concepts are the stiffest ski for park' mm nope
Oct 22 2003 6:34AM
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Mike-O
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Armadas are mnot stiff,not stiff on my hands anyways,I don't know how they handle in the slopes. But I don't think the PE's are stiffer,turtle man.
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Oct 22 2003 9:47AM
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mo-rod
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I dont find that having a stiff park ski is a disadvantage at all. most ppl can pop better on a soft ski. I spent last season on 1080s then volkl expressions. the expression is a wood core, stiffer than a 1080 and I can jib fine with it. personally I prefer stiffer, wood core skiis for park and softer shit for the BC.
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Oct 22 2003 10:34AM
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HVskier
Posts: 924 - Karma: 38
where would you say the tm's rank on this stiffness scale? on the softer side?
Oct 22 2003 7:39PM
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Krongos
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i would say in the middle, but thats just from flexing them in the store
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10, 1 to do it, and 9 to say 'I can do that.'

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Oct 22 2003 8:10PM
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mo-rod
Posts: 1948 - Karma: 8
definitely middle. stiffer than salomons. softer by a little than rossis
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Oct 23 2003 12:11AM
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LC.
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Coyote, I disagree. If I land backseat on my V-Pros (pretty stiff), then I can normally ride away because the tails won't wash out. When I switched back to my Skogens I really noticed the difference if I didn't nail the landing dead-on.
Oct 23 2003 5:37AM
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Jammu
Posts: 1796 - Karma: 328
'softer by a little than rossis' rossis are super soft softer than 1080 and I have heard from a guy who has TM's that they are super soft also...
Oct 23 2003 12:43PM
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mo-rod
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the 04 scratchs I rode (non FS) were stiffer than the 1080, jammu

also some of the back seat landings I had this year on my expression would have been washouts on my 1080s. having a tail stiff ski or a tip stiff ski is great cause I know that I dont land right all the time, and I dont wanna wash out.
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Oct 23 2003 2:03PM
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PembyLoc
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stiff=Atomic=sickest ski=better landings=fewer bruises=more fun=smiling= all the ladies
Oct 23 2003 2:12PM
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mo-rod
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as if your not bias rex.... wait so am i GO VOLKL!
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Oct 23 2003 2:13PM
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kjfreerider
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i was amazed at the stiffnes of mad trix. from flexing them in stores they are stiffer than any other ski period. i can make my skogens into a C. im serious ill post a pic its pritty funny
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Oct 23 2003 2:47PM
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xskier2
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Tm's are da best
Oct 23 2003 3:13PM
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hexum
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guys, it depends on your weight too, when i was at coc this summer i wieghed like 190 and pes were soft and forgiving, i dropped 30 pounds... i wonder if 1080s will be soft and forgiving... or just wash out, its a mystery


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'Nobody will see your nice skis while you're crying in the dark, pussy.'


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Oct 23 2003 3:16PM
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mo-rod
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dude 30 pounds is a lot of weight to lose.

as a former racer no twin I have skiied cept the volkls and PE are stiff enuf for me and even then I want something a little stiffer
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Oct 24 2003 9:42AM
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doGelyst
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mad trix, volkl, or k2 pe's the way to go. The rest are just noodles.
Oct 24 2003 11:03AM
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