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Worries about world's largest particle accelerator
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people think this thing might create a mini black hole or particles that are capable of destroying the earth.
crazy.
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/34711
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Lets look at some of your points here. First of all, do you think ANY of those things on your list would be possible without science? Sure, they may not quite be in the same category as the LHC and particle physics, but its still necessary.
So say it might have cost 20 billion dollars. If 80 countries helped build the LHC (I'm pretty sure it's 80..), then 20 billion over 80 countries is like nothing. It's pocket change. Look how much the US ALONE has spent on the war in Iraq. You're getting upset over the LHC that is a worldwide effort and is bringing nations together over science, and yet the war on Iraq is costing billions of dollars, taking innocent lives and doing alot less good than the LHC will do.
First you want to try and stop malaria and other mosquito borne illnesses. Where do you think people learned about these diseases? They've spent tons of money researching them, trying to figure out how they work and why they work. That sentence describes the LHC perfectly. We're trying to find out how the universe works and why it acts as it does. Sure it may not save as many lives right up front as stopping Malaria, but its potential for impacting the future is astronomical and who can say what might be discovered.
Your point on oil is a big one. There is no way we would ever find alternative fuel sources or be able to drill for oil without engineering. Engineering is all based on physics. A better understanding of physics and a more unified theory will only help us in the future.
And back to the money issue, 20 billion dollars really isn't that vast of a sum of money. The impact that the LHC could have is huge. Mind-numbing in fact. Sure it would be great to end world hunger, but at the same time, with this amount of money it's not going to happen and seeing as how our entire world revolves (no pun intended...) around physics, finding a unified theory is an incredibly important task.
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so nothings happened. looks like the world won't end. or at least thats what the tests say. but we'll know for sure in the next couple of weeks.
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The bang snt happening today, there just testing some shit out.
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I thought we had 10 dimensions?
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Thats all a little bit to far away for me. I wonder what a 4th room dimension would be, or how ut could be explained. - But there I am thinking of this Simpsons-episode when Homer enters the third dimension and Dr. Frank explains that the simple 2-dimensional square also could be extended to the back with more lines - and what comes out is what he called Frankahydron or "cube"
Maybe it would be easy like that - but I doubt that.
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so do we all die today? do i have to say i love you to my girlfriend and then go loot some shit that ive always wanted to have or should i sit down and do my French homework?
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I thought the fourth dimension is time.
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dude no one said the world was going to end, there is a slim to none chance it will anyway and they arent even going to start colliding the protons until next year. they are still warming the machine up and calibrating it, then they are going to spin the protons one way for a month or two and then the other way for a month or two
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I agree
When I read almost.steezy's post I admit I was siding with him that this money should've gone to helping world hunger or medical research. Just as well no one can really say for sure what will come out of the particle accerator, whether we discover a key property of matter or if we aren't much better off than before. However, in the name of the possible discovery, the use of so much money is justified.
One the other hand, money is overused in so many worthless causes like funding wars and paying for unneeded material stuff (the American dream). If this money was put towards humantarian causes then maybe this world would be a better place, one where we can discover new things through rightously funded science and where we can live in peace with each other
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we could definitely end humanity if we tried
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http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/
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someone listened to NPR this morning
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im not carein at all but i gata say that whould suck
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and it will fuck my ski time up wow that does suck
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i don't listen to the radio. and i sure as hell don't listen to radio in the morning.
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this is bs dr. crickstein from disney's genius had that particle accelerator shit on lock!
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Haha thanks for making me laugh and reminisce. But accelerators and colliders are not the same.
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i don't know about you, but the earth imploding on itself in a massive black hole would be a pretty cool way to die.
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interesting stuff..thanks man
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If your really interested I'd suggest checking out the live webcams of the LHC
https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/381579/
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why do they even need to know?
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So i talked to my ap physics teacher today and he said even if a black hole where to be created it would be so small that it wouldn't be able to attract anything, so it would dissapate(sp).
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so did mine. He also told us that Stephan Hawking said there was no chance this experiment could directly harm humans.
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im not worried about it. one of my dumbass friends is though, all she says "im gonna die omg omg omg NOOO!!!"
its like
shut the fuck up and live your life
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for all the people who are worried, don't you believe that the mayans are right also? if so, you got nothing to worry about you bunch of fucking retarded pussies.
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wait i thought the experiment was yesterday
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First collision was today~
Test run yesterday~
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idk id rly not like to die
atleast not right before ski season
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thats true
there would only be 6.5 billion people that would get to die like that in the history of our world
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Next runs through the LHC won't be done until Oct 21, and they may not even do collisions then. We won't see collisions for at least a month or two months.
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i say fire it up and see what happens.
everybody's gotta go sometime right? plus, if it works, we'll have a better way to explain life, the universe and everything. i mean don't get me wrong, the number 42 is great... but if they can use this machine to figure out what they say they can figure out, that would solve alot of problems.
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this is simply reasearch fr the sense of reasearch... 5 billion dollars worth
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my brother said that within the next 4 years they'll be using it and theres a 1 PERCENT CHANCE of it creating a black hole
1 PERCENT?
thats not .01 PERCENT!!!!!!!!!
I HATE THIS THING
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But why do we need to know this? Why can't we just be happy just living and not plus the whole fucking world at risk for some obscure particle, and might not even show up. Yes they say there are no risks, but there are ALWAYS risks.
And what happens if that risk turns out to be true, and the world gets fucked because some SMALL group of researchers want to play god with particles. I know we all have to go sometime, but before i die i was hoping toget marryed, have some kids, get a good job.....you know live.
Fuck cern, fuck this expeariment.
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Damn that's scary stuff. Hopefully it will get the guys at CERN to protect their networks better.
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erns data collection computers are a fucking achievement to modern humanity. They process the info collected from a few milliseconds of collision with 60,000 computers:
"Sophisticated filters
discard all but the most interesting data, but that still leaves 15
petabytes to be analyzed each year - enough to fill 2 million DVDs. So
it will get sent via high-speed lines to 11 top research institutions
in Europe, North America and Asia, and from there to a wider network of
150 facilities where the information can be scrutinized by thousands of
researchers - who could share in the glory of any discovery."
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i think that they might be able to accellerate the particles into the future thus for creating time travel.
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i just pooped myself, thats so scary
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the only poible way i see something like that happening would be if the particles broke the speed of light.(which probably won't happen). but even then that wouldn't be time travel, all that would happen is the particle would seem to be in one place, but actually be in another.
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A really good book on this kind of stuff is "hyperspace" by Michio Kaku if anyone is interested...
The guy built a particle accelerator when he was in high school.
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