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Motorcyles? good gas mileage?

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shredabanana
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alright, with gas prices climbing at 4.30 around where i live. i think im considering getting my motorcyle license. does anybody know how good of mileage a sport bike gets. like a Suzuki hayabusa. ive been watching youtube videos and they beat  Ferrari's and stuff easily and there only like 11,000 dollars.
Jun 12 2008 1:36AM
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Campeador
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much better, probably a wise idea.
Jun 12 2008 1:37AM
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RICK_ROSS
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hahahah your karmas 69
Jun 12 2008 1:38AM
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nkinsman10
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hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
Jun 12 2008 1:38AM
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Mooose...
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there is no way you can handle a hayabusa. that is all i have to say.

Jun 12 2008 1:39AM
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nkinsman10
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nobody change his karma, leave it where it is
Jun 12 2008 1:41AM
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speedy29
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If you get a hyabusa as your first street bike you are going to die.

Get a licence but please start on a standard or a 250 ninja they still beat almost any car out there they get atleast 65mpg and they are cheap.

but if you must have something bigger go for 500 ninja.

I would hate to hear about another biker dying or seriously injuring themself due to a bike that is way over their head.
Jun 12 2008 1:42AM
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eheath
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My moped gets 100mpg...
Jun 12 2008 1:48AM
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shredabanana
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do you think suzuki bikes are bad for a first bike. i can get incredible deals on them . one of my friends works for suzuki.
Jun 12 2008 2:15AM
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Mooose...
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suzuki's are definitly not bad bikes, just dont get a hayabusa or you will die.

like previously said start out with a smaller bike and work your way up.

Jun 12 2008 2:18AM
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speedy29
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If you can get a deal on one go for it but get the smallest one.

But the lighter a bike you start with the better you will be at cornering when you get to a big bike.
Jun 12 2008 2:21AM
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finssidedown
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A hayabusa is pretty fast man...  Put it this way.  You have a deathwish?

Why not get something slower.  Even a slow streetbike is still fast.
Jun 12 2008 2:24AM
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speedy29
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If you buy a bike make sure you have enough money after you buy the bike to buy a good shoei or arai and a jacket.
Jun 12 2008 2:29AM
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RICK_ROSS
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i swear to god if i find out who did that, game over
Jun 12 2008 2:41AM
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shredabanana
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how much does all that stuff run?
Jun 12 2008 3:25AM
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gmack24
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there was just a thread about bikes, start off with a new 250c ninja, they are only like 3,900 new and look sick. You won't be able to handle a suzuki for your first bike, get something light and learn the basics. I'm thinking about getting one due to these gas prices and I live in a city so rippin around close to home will be good
Jun 12 2008 3:32AM
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speedy29
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good helmet 400-500 dollars
textile jacket 150-200 dollars

but its really important to have the best helmet you can afford
Jun 12 2008 3:33AM
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Billek
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Yeah considering you don't have a seatbelt, airbags, and 2,000 pounds of metal protecting you, you want to invest in some quality headgear.
Jun 12 2008 7:11AM
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speedy29
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Also if you get a motorcycle pay to take the safety course its good if youve never riden before and it will save you a lot on insurance.
Jun 12 2008 1:03PM
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shredabanana
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how would you get a license after your 18? do you just show up to the dmv and take the test?
Jun 12 2008 1:14PM
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comeatmebro
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hayabusa=deathwish. you would never even use half of the potential that bike has just starting out, you'd be dead before then. like everyone else said the ninja 250 is a good starters bike and is plenty fast. if you must the 500 isn't bad either but 250 would be your best bet. they're really cheap too like around 4 or 5 thousand i think?
Jun 12 2008 1:23PM
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mtsteeze406
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OK, as ive written in many other threads, there are things you neeed before your bike. Full riding gear. Boots, pants, jacket, gloves and helmet. Then you NEED a saftey course. If not your good as dead.

And you want to get the fastest bike made as your first bike?!?! Have you ever ridden a motorcycle before? a Ninja 250 is PLENTY for you.

Its not a matter of if you fall, its a matter of when.
Jun 12 2008 1:50PM
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marc_sncl
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you will die man, dont get it

i don't like that thing anyways, its too big because of its huge engine... handles not so good at low speeds, get some kind of supermoto bike i love those
Jun 12 2008 1:54PM
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speedy29
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Yeah in some state after 18 you take the written and practicle but some states if your under 21 you have to take the written test and then take the highway patrol safety course and then they give you your license. you just have check out the rules of your state
Jun 12 2008 3:46PM
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speedy29
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The helmet and jacket are the most important and gloves are kinda obvious but pants and boots are only needed if you ride long distance. Boots are just uncomfortable and in you slide your most likely going to be sliding on your back which is why a jacket is a big one.

The safety courses are a joke they put you on little bikes in an empty parking lot teach swerving and emergency stops all of which you can learn on your own.

To be safe you need to keep your self in the best position in a lane possible which they don't teach.
I took the class after being on the street for five years and what they show you is something you would pick up in the first month.

What he needs to do is find an expirenced rider he knows who is safe and learn proper riding positions and cornering on the street.
Jun 12 2008 3:54PM
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speedy29
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buy used for your first bike cause alot of people get ninjas or GSXR's and then dont like riding and you can get them for cheap and the chances are you'll drop the bike in your first couple of days.
Jun 12 2008 3:57PM
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chimp
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ok now think what you just asked us.do motorcycles get good gas mileage? hm.. one person on a small motorized vehicle, i wonder if this can go far hm...  its kinda common sense buddy
Jun 12 2008 4:05PM
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PASKIINGSUCKS
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Definately some good advice in here already.

I started on a 750, bought a permit(couple years ago), and didn't take the riding safety course. I lasted about 3 months before I dumped it on the highway because I didn't properly know how to turn.

I don't know if you have to spend 400 bucks on a helmet, I dropped about $170 on mine and it did the trick just fine. Maybe someone can post some real info about what that extra 200 bucks buys ya. For sure get a jacket, it's hot as hell in the summer but it's better than turning your skin into hamburger.

Now I ride a ninja 250 and have had it for about 2 years, I'm gonna ride it this year and then sell it for a 500 or possibly 600.
Jun 12 2008 4:10PM
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speedy29
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Not all of them get super great mpg like the hyabusa isn't so great compared to a ninja
Jun 12 2008 4:10PM
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RJD2
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ehh just get a used 600 or smaller bike to learn on. you will dump it, everyone does. why spend $11,000 on the fastest and most dangerous bike for your first one? thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Spend $2,000 and get something that you won't be afraid to lay down, or even just ride. and take the safety courses.
Jun 12 2008 4:19PM
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~auddie~
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I'm definitely going to agree with the comment on the gear. However, the safety courses are not a joke, because honestly, an empty parking lot is a lot more of a controlled environment for someone to learn than just being put on a bike on the street ,granted that I was put on a bike on the street and sent my way. It's not the best way of learning because some things you do want proper instruction so you don't have to go through the difficult and often painful process of learning the hard way as much as possible.

And no an experienced rider might not be able to teach you to ride properly, it's like skiing, many people know how to ski very very well, but however, when it comes to teaching, they can't translate their own skills into words, or they just can't explain concepts properly, find an experienced instructor who knows what they're doing.

As for gas mileage, it really depends on the bike you are getting, take the honda cbr 125r for example (yeh I know 125cc sounds like child's play but for a beginner, its enough to learn on) has excellent gas mileage, designed in Europe to meet the stringent environmental standards there. Also the greater the mass of the bike and the rider, the more fuel is going to be used up, if you haven't already figured that one out.
Jun 12 2008 4:42PM
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speedy29
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I was kinda trying to say that you could do what they teach you in an empty parking lot by yourself.

I said a safe rider because safe riders understand the why when and how of changing lane position/lanes best.

I find most instuctors to not be very good most are mediocore at best cause they all belive in following the law and sometimes the law is not the safest way to ride and they arent well paid either so you dont get the best.

My instructor who was in charge of the program said that he was getting a ducati 1098S and that it wasn't much harder or that much higher preformance than his harley sportster
Jun 12 2008 5:40PM
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Peter.
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yeah, if you are a first timer make sure you take the safety courses or ask a friend to show you whats up.  dont go in over your head and regret it by not being able to ski anymore
Jun 12 2008 5:47PM
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fsscott
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bahahaha
we on ns are so childish
Jun 12 2008 6:02PM
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ryan.c
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minimum protection, more is def better, especially a new rider


and yeah dont start off with anythin over 500cc
Jun 12 2008 8:05PM
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tBatt
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yeah man i completely agree with everything thats been said here
Jun 12 2008 8:14PM
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spere
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but for most people, insurance will be lower if you take the course which regardless of what they actually say at the course, its worth it to save money
Jun 12 2008 8:42PM
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bermbuster49
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one of my dirtbike sponsors is a suzuki dealer, and one day i went in and they had a turbo busa on the lift...fucking intense, and soooooo unnecicary(sp).
Jun 12 2008 8:44PM
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artfullydodged
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hahahaha NOBODY TOUCH IT!!!
Jun 12 2008 8:59PM
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miralas
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if u spend more than 300 on a helmet ur just buyin graphics really. i started on my yamaha r1( first streetbike ive ever riddin) and the only time its been wrecked is when the guy i live with ran it over(prick still hasnt fixed it). if there one thing i can say is it really doesnt matter what size bike u buy, just make sure u take the time to get to know it. i rode it for a hole summer before i started rippin around corners and goin over 170. also the bigger the bike the worst the gas mileage. i get about 140 miles to my 3.5 gallon tank in the city and about 100 on the highway. my friend gets close to 300 i think in the city on his honda f4i 600. if u got money for a busa do it, but seriously take it slow for some months(seriously nothin over 100) and get to know the bike so ur bike will stay as fresh as it did when it came off the show floor...
Jun 12 2008 9:22PM
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snocompton
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If this is your first bike start out with something small.  A kaibusa would be a terrible choice for a first bike.  Spend like 5 gs on an R6 or something and then work your way up.  You'll kill yourself so fucking fast on anything else.
Jun 12 2008 9:31PM
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zackblain
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If you think 130mph wheelies are fun get a hayabusa. If you don't want to die get an r6. My neighbor has a hayabusa and he says that he'd rather go for something like an r1. Hayabusas are like fucking rockets.
Jun 12 2008 9:38PM
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ryan.c
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ok please dont listen to the last 3 posts in this thread...an r1 as a first bike is stupid. and to only be riding for a year, wen really its a half year assuming u live in a winter area and cant ride for half the year, u should deff not be doin 170 on an r1...

an r6 most people feel is still waaay too fast for a beginner. that bike is faster than almost every car u will see on the streets wen u drive.
Jun 12 2008 10:13PM
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miralas
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why would an r1 be any worse than an r6? sure its a bigger engine, but its also a heavier bike, meaning less likely to wheelies and overall will be a smoother ride. plus an r1 as a first bike isnt bad if ur not an idiot. it could be different cuz of my many years of ridin dirtbikes i no what to expect as far as torque, speed, and maniverabilty but if u spend the time to learn how to ride the bike before being an idiot he should be fine(unless ur an idiot bananaman). and goin that fast really is nothing special, is just one of those things where u wait for the perfect conditions( clear weather, warm roads, fresh shoes on tha whip, and steering dampening). big woop.
Jun 12 2008 11:25PM
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speedy29
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Its bigger thats why. First time I went on a liter bike I went from 60 to 100 before I noticed 400cc's is huge for the small weight difference.

The reason why the mortality rate for rider here is higher than europe is cause here we dont restrict what a first time buyer can own. If everyone started on a 250 less people would be dying
Jun 12 2008 11:31PM
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speedy29
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the 200 bucks buys you multiple impacts incase your head hits  more than once if you go down and its lighter and smaller
Jun 12 2008 11:34PM
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speedy29
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Oh my God Mr. Rossi it is such an honor to meet you would you mind if I got an autograph


Really unless your on a race course and doing 170 through corner it will be unlikly your gonna survive it but hey I've scene crazier happen


Jun 12 2008 11:38PM
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Karcher
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listen to this guy, his names speedy29
Jun 12 2008 11:40PM
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miralas
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just save ur penny's for this thing. its the next hot bike for sure...

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i guess since i've been riding bikes so long its just been second nature. so the size and power thing doesnt really factor to me as long as i take the time to learn whats between my legs. but now that i think about it, IF u've never BEEN ON a bike before. smaller is easier to start understand how bikes operate and how easy it is to kepp rolling ur wrist IF things start to get out of control. that would be freaky for a first timer...
Jun 12 2008 11:43PM
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speedy29
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I need to go change my underpants





Yeah once you hit the 5 year mark not only are your chances of dying much lower but you can ride basically anything except a gp bike
Jun 12 2008 11:47PM
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miralas
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ive never gone that fast through a corner nor do i ever plan to. thats just askin for trouble. ive only gone that fast once just to see how fast my bike went. it goes 176 at redline. i rarelly ever exceed 110 because theres no point, im already passing everyone on the highway at that speed...
Jun 12 2008 11:50PM
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