Before you verbally lambaste me I have searchbared this a thousand times, and i have not found a direct answer to this: What length of a regular camber ski skis about the same as a 169 hellbent? I ski on 165 slalom ski for racing so I'm used to a small ski, I just wanna know if the hellbents ski about as long as those 165 sl skis or if it would be like skiing snowskates or something. The reason I want them so short is i plan to use them for the park alot and not just powder, so I want the lightest hellbent without it being rediculoulsy squirly. Thanks for having the stomach to open a thread containing the word Hellbent.