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East (ice) coaster moving to west coast
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I'll be moving out to Denver for college and I was wondering what kind of ski would be a top priority?
I already have the 06 invaders, the one with the creepy faces and stuff, and I love them but they're pretty skinny and center mounted. Also they're starting to delam, they're skiiable though. I've only experience 5 inch fresh pow and everything else was just packed groomed snow/ice.
Was just curious on what type of ski I should be focusing on. Like would hellbents or EP pros be just fine if I had the invaders or should I get something in between and not use the invaders? The in between would be somethign similar to Moment Reno jibs/rockers. I'm pretty confident with my skiing, I can tackle any obstacle outside the park, just definitely not certain about pow skiing at all what with the tree lines and steepness.
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your gona need a new park ski and a pow ski. the invaders are not going to hold up
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Most likely the bents or EP pros would be a bit too much for you to handle if you haven't done much pow skiing.
Look for something around, oh, 105 at the waist with regular camber (Scott P4 would be an excellent choice) or the ObSetheds or something along those lines.
They'll float great, and still work when it is harder the day or two after a storm.
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for real? damn, that's disheartening. i didn't really want to get a whole new quiver.
thanks guddgulf, does anyone else have any objections to what he advised? Don't take it wrong, i just want to be well prepared because it's going to be literally a whole new and entirely different environment for me.
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i think people are misunderstanding me, I'm not asking for what specific ski I should be getting, I was only wondering what type I should be looking at to have the best experience I could out there with the limited quiver I have right now. Ya know like, heavy rockered, mild, positve camber, fat, skinny, etc.
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sounds like the invaders are pretty fucked and need to be relegated to urban use. then you must decide whether you have the finances for 2 skis or just one.
if you only wanna get one pair, something with around a 90-95 mm waist should do the trick. think arvs, brigades, bridges, blends, msps- that kinda range and depending on your flex preference.
if you can afford 2 skis then i'd recommend a pure park ski, maybe invaders again if you liked them, or similar, and a wide all mtn ski like, as mentioned, p4s or obsetheds. alternatively if you intend to start heading into the backcountry more you could go for an all mtn twin paired with a more dedicated pow ski, like maybe arvs teamed up with thugs or a rockered option. i would think judging by your background that the first two options would be more suitable tho.
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You're welcome. I completely understand, you should ask around.
Using a quiver is really nice. I don't know if you have had the opportunity or even needed it before, but it makes skiing more fun because you end up sacrificing less. A mid fat in the park in place of a pure park ski doesn't spin quite as fast or react quite as quickly. And they will not give you anywhere near the performance of a true pow ski when it gets deep. Basically, you end up sacrificing on both ends for something in the middle, only gaining not having to choose between the skis, saving some money, and not going back to the car to switch skis.
I think I will need to add a charging ski for next year, as my Bacons are just not helpful on days when it isn't dumping as they are too flexy.
If you are looking for a park ski, check out the Fischer Addict. Severely underrated, and there are a bunch floating around out there right now.
Best of luck with your search.
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the help, really.
And just for clarification, the invaders are not THAT banged up, the edges are almost perfect, just minor dings from rails and shit and the base needs a full tune up before I go out there again. Just the top sheet is starting to delam and has already in one place. It won't be long until it starts being bad though.
Seems like the ObSETHed are the way to go here and once my invaders start getting really bad, i'll just BC/groomer it for a while until I get a new invader or fischer addicts (i'll have to check them out). The ARVs seem really good but I don't think I would like an all-mountain "in between" type ski.
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I have the origional addicts and they are quite stiff, but they hold up well. The top sheet chips like crazy but it doesn't affect anything, if its bad epoxy it. The center mount will ski jus tlike your invader, but my 171 invaders are longer then my 172 addicts.
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i must say, im quite impressed with the information in this thread considering some of the garbage floating around...
that being said, i like the idea of a park ski, then something in the heftier variety for everything else.think new obsethed's, older jjs (super lightweight and fun) maybe brigades/s5 (altho it is a bit narrower than the others) maybe the new blends or if u like soft skis, u could try lizzies/bacons depending on ur height.
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Aren't like the lizzies and bacons for like pow only? I mean like soft unpacked snow, not for groomers or anything like that?
And I actually do like softer skis, i'm only 5'10" ish at 145 lbs
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YO SON, Bacons are so sic, for real man. I'm West Coast (Stevens Pass, WA) and I have Bacons and Anthems, I'm 5'9 150 lbs.
I can ski anything with Bacons, I even ride them in park sometimes, learned butter 3's on them off rollers in the park. Obviously in pow them just pwn that shit like it wadn nottin. Float so well and are sick.
On groomers/all mtn. they are still good (I mounted them at -2 from center) and they are really really good switch on groomers. The Bacons are soft'ish too so they are good everywhere but charging like really crazy shit.
Anthems are sick all mtn. and on groomers due to being symmetrical they ride switch really well. In park Anthems are way sick and the 93 waist makes them really stable on landings. In pow over 5 in. they aren't that great unless it's pretty light but if you have your Bacons and Anthems just switch over skis when the pow is tracked out.
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Ya, I like the bacons, ep pros, and hellbents. They are so soft, although i've never ridden them but I can tell they are.
It might be my east coast brain talking but I'm still like not convinced about the aforementioned skis because they don't seem like they do well on groomers/packed snow. Would the Colorado Rocky Mountain produce more than enough snow without getting too packed down in order to like justify the purchase of the skis?
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obsethed, p4, 09 blends, vct's, rubys and s6's would be good one ski quiver's.
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Yeah, are you moving to summit county or to denver/boulder? If you are in Gunnison or south CO then maybe get some real fatties (hellbents, EPs, Bacons...), because you will get alot of powder, but if you have limited days at all (even just a job where you have to be 5 days a week), or live in summit then don't get a ski like that because they aren't worth it without alot of powder.
Get something that can be a 1 ski quiver, ARVs would be good, or Prophet 100s, or Rossi S5s. If you really want something that will floats but aren't restricted to powder then Obsethed or Reno Rockers would be good, maybe even S7s.
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Ya, I'll be in Denver, school in the city, housing about 15 minutes away.
I'll most likely get that 5 mountain season pass to winter park, breck, etc, or however that thing works. I don't thikn I'll be planning on having a job. Probably will try to make it out every weekend ish, depending on who can go or not.
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line prophet 100
it's my answer to everything
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new blend.
my answer to everything
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Only skiing weekends there are only 3 to 4 days with a foot or more, and that is really the only time you need helbents or eps. Get an alll mountain ski.
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word, thanks a lot.
I appreciate the help, I know nothing about conditions out there and it's helped a lot into finalizing my decision.
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our parks are big enough a total noodle ski isnt nessecarily what you need
for pow/all mountain i have volkl gotamas
for park i have volkl karmas
for super pow, when i get the cash im jumping on some arg's
id recommend maybe an arv for you, 176?
fairly fat, its big enough for powder but its close enough to a park ski to rock it, or the bridge
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