So I decided to go ahead and buy my 08/09 setup now. Got what I thought were some decent deals and I don't care if I'm riding last years models next year, they're new to me. The lines are what I rode last year btw. The guns are 181's and found them for 349, figure I'll mount the Markers on them. Then picked up the Dumonts (176) for 219 and the STH 16's for 199. I don't know, I'm stoked. Just need to get my knee healthy in time.