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How to bend brakes on rossi power 140s?

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phishfood
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alright i've got a pair of these bindings mounted on 60mm waist race skis that i have to make fit on park skis. i've seen threads on how to bend FKS brakes, but these seem different. anyone know how to do it?
heres a pic of the bindings:
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May 13 2008 9:33PM
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bobs
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a local shop might be able to hook you up with some wide breaks if you need em.
May 15 2008 12:37AM
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49566738265
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Great answer since he asked where to buy new brakes...

But to really answer your question, you can actually bend those while they are on the ski if you don't care about them.  It doesn't do much of anything to the ski anyway.  Put a pole on the end, heat them up, have someone hold the ski while you gradually bend them out.  You can use a piece of wood to square them up if you want too.  I did this same thing for FKS on my JJ's.  They look custom.  You can do the same thing here without taking anything apart.
May 15 2008 1:35AM
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bobs
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ha..... i said hook you up not buy.  But thanks i guess?

I know two local shops near me who have a bucket full of spare brakes they would give  to any friendly customer. I'm sure alot of other shops are similar or charge what $10?  It'd probably be worth checking out. 

I would be careful if you decide to bend the brakes while on the ski.  Unlike fks which have a metal housing, the housing for pivots are plastic and  half metal. They are easy to torque and commonly break.  If you do do this method i would put a boot in to relieve stress on the plastic but i'd be weary of using heat near boots.

To be fully honest i'm not sure the best way to bend them.  The brakes are removable so you might be able to secure them in a vice/ vice grips without causing torque on the plastic parts

either way good luck man.
May 15 2008 2:10AM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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Get an old ass ski pole.  Cut it off about 4 inches down from the grip.  Slip the brake into the end of the pole ( the piece that has the grip attatched obviously)  and bend the brake using leverage.  Heat isn't necessary.  Or just get new brakes.  What year are those bindings?  If they're 1999 or older, you may be SOL on gettin new brakes.
May 15 2008 2:33AM
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Love_Wins.
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Well, since they are the race edition, the brakes (most likely) don't detach without some "persuading", meaning you'll have to bend two little metal attachment tabs on each housing not alot, just enough to get them out...I did this by taking the binding off the baseplate and just grabbing the brake housing and bending it up and down slowly...again, only do this if your brake housing doesn't slide out from the binding, etc.

You can bend however you like from there, and just pop them back in when done, after you straighten the tabs you bent.

Or you could probably just fanagle the brake arms outta the housing and bend them to however wide you need, then put them back in.
May 15 2008 3:58AM
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hippystinx
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i want those bindings...doesn't really help the tread i thought i would just throw it out there
May 15 2008 8:50AM
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CamBrowne
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wen i was bending my piviot 14s (the same as those but with a wide brake) they were extreamly brittle unlike the fks breaks and the p series.
what i did was take the break off (alot easyer on this modle), and then put it in the vice, and heat the break to an extreamly hot temperature (the mettle was actualy red becuase of the amount of heat) with a torch (keep in mind of the plastic housing for the break because if u aim the torch to close to the plastic it will melt) then quickly use the pole technique and bend it out flat (dont bend it to quickly because like i said it was very brittle and if u bend it to quickly it will snap. it happend to one of mine). wen u have to bend it back u also once again have to heat it.
good luck. bending these brakes is alot harder then the fks and p series.
the easyiest solution would be to go around to shops looking for old wide breaks for them, but it could be hard becuase they dont make them any more.
May 15 2008 9:44AM
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toiletduck
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fwiw, if you screw them off the back of the heel track, you can pop the breaks out pretty easily.
May 15 2008 12:02PM
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nigel12
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i bent those out to fit my 104 vct's
but for park skis i think the best route would be to click your boot in bend them out enough to clear the side wall of whatever skis your putting them on then mount them on your park skis and use the side wall of you park ski to bend them back to paralel

bend them out to this /  \    to clear your side wall then once there on your park skis bend them back towards the middle of you ski so they look like this   l  l
May 15 2008 12:57PM
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SHastatahoe
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The brown one speaks the truth.
May 16 2008 2:36PM
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Twinjibber77
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cut a ski pole about 5-6 inches from the grip


BREAK BENDING TOOL!!!!!!!
May 17 2008 12:19AM
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phishfood
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ok i've got them this far, what do i do now?
i'm not sure how to get the metal brake out of the plastic/spring housingBending brake
May 22 2008 9:49PM
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phishfood
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^
May 25 2008 3:23PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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bend it after you mount it. waaaay easier

May 26 2008 9:01PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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or just leave it how it is in the picture and put the part of the brake that touches the snow, into a vice and bend out.
May 26 2008 9:01PM
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Love_Wins.
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Here:


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Basically you'll have to look at the brake and use some common sense as to how it fits together and works, and then partially disassemble it.
The arms of the brake are fit into the middle black plastic thing, and you want to get them out, it'll take some fanaggling and maybe some tools (like pliars, etc.) but it will come out, they both will, then proceed to bend them and put them back in.

And don't try to do it on the ski after mounting, it works with some brakes and some skis, mostly Salomon brakes because they are a softer metal. It'll be horrid if you try that method with these brakes.
May 26 2008 10:23PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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^yeah, you're right   Rossi brakes are harder metal. No need to dissasemble at all though.  Just put one of the two ends into a vice and grab the bulk of the rest of the brake and bend whatever direction

May 27 2008 1:39PM
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Love_Wins.
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You could do that, but having bent a few of these style brakes, I can safely say that the bend will be much more precise and better quality, with a lower chance of messing something up (read: breaking an arm off) if you take the arms out and bend them individually in a vice with some tools, a small pipe, and some heat.
May 27 2008 4:36PM
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Proze
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I have px12 lifters the older turntable ones and they have the same exact brake. I threw them on my skis and was like o shit the brakes dont fit. i put on my gloves, grabbed each arm and bent them out. they have worked fine since but i might have gotten lucky
May 27 2008 5:19PM
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Love_Wins.
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Well...not really, you can always do it that way, with any brake really, the idea of bending straight and then down again is to minimize brake overhang, and the chance of hooking up on something while riding switch.
May 27 2008 9:16PM
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phishfood
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so wait do i have to get the brake deattached from the plastic piece where the heel of my boot sits (the top part) or the plastic/metal part below it with the spring in it? cause the part with the spring looks like it has a plastic piece totally enclosing it- do i need to get that off? and under that plastic piece it looks like theres a metal piece totally enclosing it too, but i can't really see for sure with the plastic piece over it.

these brakes have been a blow to my confidence in my shop-skills. they're totally owning me.
May 27 2008 9:52PM
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Proze
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dont even take the apart just do it with your hands
May 28 2008 5:33PM
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Twinjibber77
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cut a ski pole about 5-6 inches from the grip


BREAK BENDING TOOL!!!!!!!
May 28 2008 6:20PM
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Love_Wins.
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Pay shipping to me and back and I'll do it for you man, I've done several sets, but my first attempts were rough for sure, and its really hard to show/describe the process online.
May 28 2008 9:47PM
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