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From Russia, With Hate.

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almostaskier
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It seems that in other parts of the world, the insidious hate against all foreigners and immigrants of color is given freer reign. Imagine if the opponents of immigration in the US could allow themselves to express their ideas in this same way. The parallels of both discourses, after all, are essentially identical.




http://current.com/items/84906361_from_russia_with_hate
May 12 2008 8:50PM
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timmi
Posts: 12874 - Karma: 3,460
FUCK. the more i find out about this world the more i hate it. what the fuck?
May 12 2008 9:14PM
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Ianskismslm
Posts: 107 - Karma: 11
 I feel like people need to this this, good job for posting it.  It really has changed the way i think especially about Russia.            BIG FUCKING BUMP
May 12 2008 9:14PM
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Ianskismslm
Posts: 107 - Karma: 11
see this** sorry
May 12 2008 9:16PM
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ThaLetterM.
Posts: 8609 - Karma: 1,613
really frightening and eye opening..everyone should see this
May 12 2008 9:22PM
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liftedresearcher
Posts: 1140 - Karma: 1,775
very good little documentary. he got right to the source of all of it. i am surprised they let the reporter get into the depths of the organization like that. really eye opening. i had no idea russia was this unstable.
May 12 2008 9:25PM
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mtbakerteacher
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Wow how incredibly ironic that they're idolizing Hitler. I had no idea Russia allowed this much freedom of expression!
May 12 2008 9:31PM
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magic_steve
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russians suck at government, thats the simple conclusion that ive come too....
May 12 2008 9:38PM
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doritos
Posts: 7368 - Karma: 53
MyThreads for now, a got a big night of blazing and Scarface ahead of me.
May 12 2008 9:43PM
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Matty_C
Posts: 2598 - Karma: 236
america's government on the other hand is just awesome right?
May 12 2008 9:47PM
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jimmer
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wow.
May 12 2008 9:53PM
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skierdudeguy
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oh my God, great post. everyone watch it, and most importantly, WATCH THE VERY END!!!!!
May 12 2008 9:56PM
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speedy29
Posts: 868 - Karma: 10
Wow thats horrible I knew racism in other countries was bad but not that bad I can't belive those people aren't being stoped
May 12 2008 10:11PM
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Sholte
Posts: 2929 - Karma: 12
wow i didnt know russia was so far to the right.
May 12 2008 10:38PM
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liukangkid
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yeah what the fuck, the very end is the most eye opening of it all
shits gona be bad if it keeps escelating like the neo nazis are predicting, and preparing for
May 12 2008 10:39PM
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STREETS
Posts: 1443 - Karma: 15
Wow !!! A small right wing terrorist organization found in Russia and people are saying shit like "this totally changes my view on Russia bla bla bla"  These pieces of shit can be found in any major country and their political influence is non-existant. All this is, is some sensationalist reporting.
May 12 2008 11:04PM
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mtbakerteacher
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Did you miss the fact that it said 70% of the worlds neo-nazis are in Russia? This isn't a small organization! It is sensationalist, but perhaps you also missed the part where the Duma member, aka congressman of Russia, was a skinhead and supported their cause POLITICALLY.
May 12 2008 11:12PM
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purplejumpsuit
Posts: 2208 - Karma: 157
yeah holy jebus.

what can I do to help stop that shit?
May 12 2008 11:19PM
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GGreene
Posts: 993 - Karma: 42
great post! everyone should watch this it is a real eye opener
May 12 2008 11:33PM
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jason...
Posts: 9006 - Karma: 780
thats nuts, those guys are fucking crazy
May 12 2008 11:37PM
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blindside
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Besides the horrible and gruesome beatings thats what really disturbed me the most.
May 12 2008 11:41PM
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pavel
Posts: 200 - Karma: 18
i do not understand well what is say in this video (i am russia) yet i see lots of the national socialists and the flag

i am from sankt peterburg and there is much of the national socialist here. they do mean things some but yet they are for the good in here. when you look and everyone on the street is not russia and they steal my parents job and all this just because they do it for not much money than them it is sad. my friend aleksandr he likes the national socialist very much he think when he a bit older to go do the work and try to make thing a bit better for us. it is what you say in the west "protection".

here we hate the west very much also they do bad thing with the war in iraq and how do you say his name in english "putin" was right to be back once again he is very smart and good.

here is a video you might like of a leader of the nationalist six years ago his name zhirinovsky. i'm sorry it is in russian but he say many many bad thing of your president george and your country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3RFd7oOr_4
May 12 2008 11:46PM
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pavel
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here i find it in english

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExfLOwmSD88

i do not like this man but lots in russia do very much. the national socialists. they will be bigger in the future you watch.

you are all very lucky putin and medvedev are together in office in russia they do not like these people very much i think. i do not like it much either, but my mother and grandmother she always tells me how much better life were with the cccp than now
May 12 2008 11:52PM
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Joe_
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wow. that was a real eye-opener. i've heard of this problem in many other major european countries, but I never knew that it was so large in russia
May 12 2008 11:55PM
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BMB
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so sickening, theyre all terrorists. They shall be shot.
May 13 2008 12:13AM
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Sholte
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him very interesting. and the video was also a eye opener.
May 13 2008 12:18AM
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BravoWhiskey5280
Posts: 4020 - Karma: 520
I didnt know that skinheads were world wide... That vid poses the same question like the one in American History X though.. But i didnt know foreigners actually posed a problem in russia today.
May 13 2008 12:29AM
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A-Style**
Posts: 1831 - Karma: 81
i dont really like saying this but that kid from russia has a point.
^but man dont you believe everybody should have equal opportunities?
May 13 2008 1:07AM
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SteezePatrol
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how do your teachers in school feel about the national socialists? are they talked about in your schooling?
May 13 2008 1:26AM
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speedy29
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It's horrible and I'm glad theres not this much hate where we live.
May 13 2008 1:39AM
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KZA
Posts: 3304 - Karma: 301
immigration does not always affect labor markets like that. jobs can actually be created by immigration. First off more immigants means more demand for foods, services, and just about everything since there are more people. More demand means there needs to be more buisnesses to provide this, so more jobs. Additionally since immigrants work low paying jobs, there is a large need for upper management job where natives are more likely to take.
May 13 2008 1:48AM
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Campeador
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besides the fact that one needs an education to take those positions. the working class russians get fucked. the rich get richer.

Russia has reverted back to what it was under the Czar, with an extreme gap between the rich and poor. The national socialist party is against this form of rampant capitalism. I fail to see the irony though of Russians supporting fascism. Many of them supported Hitler's invasion and tried to aid the Nazis in overthrowing Stalin. Only because of how badly Hitler treated his Slavic supporters did they return to fight for the Red Army.

I can fully understand working class Russians being very pissed off about immigration. They're seeing their wages fall to an even greater extent because of the influx of unskilled labor. You American kids from the suburbs live too cushioned of a life to understand. Its easy for you to point your fingers and say Russians are horrible people. I'm sure if you were going hungry because immigrants took your parents job you would be the first to join the national socialists.

As much as I condone their acts, I still try and look at it from a realistic perspective.
May 13 2008 2:34AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Official endorsement, if you're thinking of pressing the back button, watch this instead.
May 13 2008 3:24AM
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_alli_
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^quick note, condone means that you support them in a way. 

I see your point.  But targeting immigrants for the problems in the country is not a good way to solve things.  Its ignorant, backwards, and does absolutely nothing to help the situation. 
May 13 2008 3:31AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Uh, I mean endorsing Patty posting this, not the skinheads message...
May 13 2008 3:53AM
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seine_Dudeheit
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On the other hand ... I think if your country would be fucked up by war or the government, you would eiter prefer to go to a country, where things are better, and you have a chance to earn some money. 

And if those people in Russia have no chance to get a job, because of all those low-cost workers, they either feel free to go to Germany or what not to get a job there. But then they are the immigrants, the low-cost workers, and are hated by the national socialists in germany, for stealing their jobs. 

It is ridicules ...
May 13 2008 7:15AM
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sniper_6
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fascinating video, i had no idea any of that was going on. +Karma
May 13 2008 8:24AM
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Armanzoid
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Classic Russian mentality. You and the Serbians are the exact same, you always forget how terrible war is. Every time the nationalists take over there is war, why do you want that? I'm from Sarajevo, I saw for myself what the Serbian nationalists did. Even now, not even 20 years after the war, just like in Russia the nationalists are taking over in Serbia and now they want to fight for Kosovo.. The same is happening in Georgia and Chechnya. I don't understand how you can forget about war so easily. How can you allow those stupid nationalists to gain popularity? Almost all they say are lies, they just say it to get people angry. I hope this "protection" comes back to you and turns into a civil war as it did for us. The Russians and Serbians will never learn no matter how many times they are slaughtered in war. They always find a way to blame someone else.
May 13 2008 10:54AM
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marc_sncl
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damn i just hate the fact that it always is soo many against one! i bet those fuckers feel real strong after doing that
May 13 2008 11:39AM
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Campeador
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wrong word choice, I meant condemn. basically I think there needs to be change in Russia. This rampant capitalism where the general population gets fucked for the sake of the Moscow Millionaires cannot continue. If it does these national socialist movements will only keep gaining strength.
May 13 2008 2:01PM
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tribefan226
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un yeah compared to russia definitely. im tired of all the bitching about the us gov. on ns. fact is our gov is better than most. u could live in russia. they just plain fail. failed at communism, and now failing at being free country
May 13 2008 3:13PM
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blunts
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thats extremely fucked up. its so fucking sad that the world has to come to this. i hope they all get what should be comming to them.
May 13 2008 3:52PM
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Quinny
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As inferior and defective as socialism already is, its not exactly comforting to know that its also such a catch-all for every nut job and their mother.

This is how it would be in the US if we were not so prosperous, and if you obviously forgo our our power and capitalist tendencies. When poor people get pissed off, they get violent. When you do not have educated people that do something worthwhile and constructive, this kind of garbage consumes their miserable lives.
May 13 2008 3:56PM
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Von
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What about the immigrants that are being viciously attacked only because they wanted to leave the poverty of their countries (a poverty created by the USSR's imperialist policies in countries in the Caucuses and Central Asia) for a better life in Russia. Throughout the history of the USSR Russians natives moved to countries like Turkmenistan and Georgia and were part of a ruling minority class that put down the natives who had been living there for thousands of years. Now when the people that Russia has oppressed for the last eighty years attempt to improve their lives by working or studying in Russia they are beaten senselessly.

This is one of the worst examples of racism that I have seen in a while and there is absolutely no way to justify it. It sickens me to know that humans can be so ignorant and filled with hate.
May 13 2008 5:01PM
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406
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what a bunch of cowards. i bet they beat off to seeing their little get togethers on the internet

May 13 2008 5:27PM
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SK1ERDUDE
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wow
all i can say
May 13 2008 6:11PM
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freestyler540
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I hate nazi skinhead, Russia should crack down on this shit
May 13 2008 6:26PM
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Campeador
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Not exactly, that was more the fault of Communism than the Russian people. It was the party members who subdued the native populations.

Look it up, Stalin was from Georgia.
May 13 2008 6:27PM
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BEARS.
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my threads for now
May 13 2008 6:27PM
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schism
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my threads for now
May 14 2008 4:20PM
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Mat.
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what the FUCK!
\dude that is fucking FUCKED up....
took two guys out to a forest and decapitated them with a knife...
May 14 2008 4:46PM
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