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Hillary on FOX NEWS

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skiminnesota
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who else watched this? 

to borrow a line from glen beck, "she makes blood want to shoot out of my eyeballs"

she would tax us into oblivion.

her policy on OIL is a joke..

she will run this country into the ground with her health care.

i thought bush was bad when it came to spending, well that was just the tip of the ice berg, every other sentence she is talking about a government agency this, a government agency that. where is all the money coming from!!!!!

i do think, that O'reilly was very fair to her(so far, they have 3 more parts to go)

now i think the call for OBAMA to be on the factor will begin, Hillary set the precedent, and now Obama has to answer.  she hit him kinda hard when it came to REV Wright. 

well there is my rant for the night:)
Apr 30 2008 11:19PM
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babujib
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and then you realized it was fox news...
Apr 30 2008 11:21PM
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skiminnesota
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and your point?
Apr 30 2008 11:23PM
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t_rob
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fox news just assures voters that they're making the right decision on whoever they are voting for as long as its not hilary.
Apr 30 2008 11:25PM
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skiminnesota
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obama went on FOX last sunday.     i didnt see it, but it wasnt one of the shows like Hannity and colms, or the factor.

it was Fox News Sunday...
Apr 30 2008 11:31PM
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babujib
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fox news is the most biased news program to ever air
Apr 30 2008 11:32PM
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skiminnesota
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well not to get picky, its not a "news program"  it is a network, and if you have ever watched Fox, you would know they have both liberals and conservatives....
Apr 30 2008 11:35PM
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Alex_G
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But normally conservatives. Also liberals get bashed like a motherfucker on that broadcast.

Apr 30 2008 11:38PM
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Caveman.
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more than cnn?
Apr 30 2008 11:45PM
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Alexander_Keith
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heh... heh heh.. ..pffsst-BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
May 1 2008 12:22AM
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OAK_TREE
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I saw the interview last sunday. And it was indeed Fox News Sunday. It was a pretty good interview. I thought it was going to be a normal fox type interview but it suprised me. There were a few remarks the invervierwer said but other than that it was good.
May 1 2008 12:30AM
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anxju
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yea it was, here it is:

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/361606/
May 1 2008 12:53AM
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Ben.
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i agree it was fox news so its probably spun like a motherfucker but how will she pay for it? by "taxing us into oblivion" as you put it. but then again how is bush paying for iraq.... oh thats right he isnt......
May 1 2008 1:03AM
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skiminnesota
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you will notice i took a poke at bush too, when i said, "i thought bush was bad when it came to spending"...

even my family didnt get a huge tax break with the bush tax cuts, i do support the idea of his tax cuts, the rich pay the taxes in this country, so they should be given a "break"   
May 1 2008 9:48AM
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ax_murderer
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bhahaha your dumb
May 1 2008 9:57AM
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ax_murderer
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no, its just the ONLY conservative news station so you think its the most biased, the others are just all left-wing biased, so they don't stand out
May 1 2008 9:58AM
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Rosbif
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No, you're dumb.
May 1 2008 9:59AM
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freestyler540
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Have you guys noticed that for news is super right wing biased, but they put in shows like the simpsons, family guy and sex related reality shows?
May 1 2008 10:01AM
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Rosbif
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Yeah, I especially love how The Simpsons and Family Guy take the piss out of Fox. Fox deserves it as well, Rupert Murdoch is a cunt.
May 1 2008 10:07AM
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mtbakerteacher
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If you actually don't think FOX puts a spin on their articles, then you're just plain ignorant.
Obviously the shows will have their own spins, it's the same on any network, but most the time just regular news being reported has a spin.
I watched FOX news for kicks one day and they interviewed Jimmy Carter when he came back from his Israel peace talks, and they spun-bashed on him (asking only loaded questions) for trying to mediate between Hamas and the Israeli government.
May 1 2008 10:22AM
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doritos
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Welp. that pretty much invalidated everything you've said and everything you're going to say!
May 1 2008 10:24AM
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skiminnesota
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why?  it is an undeniable fact, the rich pay way more than everyone else, when it comes to taxes, so why shouldnt they get a tax break once in a while?

if all these bleeding heart people want to pay more, put your money where your mouth is, step up, lead by example and write a bigger check.  but that doesnt happen, so it must not be something they care that mush about.

go look into what income class pays what when it comes to taxes...
May 1 2008 10:31AM
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afton_steeze
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why? because fox is the only news network that is remotely conservative?
what about CNN, NBC, PBS, and even ABC? almost EVERY major news network is tilted to the left.
so the one that has about three conservatively opinionated talk shows is OBVIOUSLY delivers the most biased views.
the said networks SPEW propaganda. i find it mind boggling that you nor anyone else can honestly believe that fox is the most biased network.



May 1 2008 12:01PM
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afton_steeze
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i think we need jumister5889 in on this thread.
May 1 2008 12:02PM
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skiminnesota
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*much*

and the last sentence  should be,

go look into what *each* income class pays when it comes to taxes.
May 1 2008 12:12PM
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Carter23
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sean hannity and bill oreiley can fucking suck dick in hell. sean hannity and the rest of his racist, money grubbing, oil loving, republican, Fox News viewing, one minded supporters are ruining this country. Not opinion. Fact.
May 1 2008 12:35PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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^ that could possibly be the most retarted thing I've heard..your porbally some gun-grabbing liberal that doesnt no shit and just jumped in the band wagon like every other one. Fox news gets so much shit because it is the only semi-conserservative channel out there, all the others very liberal, like CNN. Second of all your OPION on oil was just fucking retarded. In case you havent noticed, this country runs on oil. The ski lifts that you ride, runs on oil. Dont think youre lazy ass woul want to hike. That car you drive oil. Fucking wake-up and realize, that as of right now oil is are main resource. Therefore or country musst get or hands on it, or else we are all screwed.
May 1 2008 1:08PM
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skiminnesota
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bahahahahahahahahahahaha

and people say conservatives are one minded, wow!

what news opinion shows do you watch?

want my to try my hand at your form of logic?

here we go,

jeffery immelt, keith olbermann, and larry king can all suck fat dick in hell.

the CEO, of GE, who own NBC is doing business with one of our enemy's  (iran)  they have the blood of american troops in iraq on their hands. they are helping drive iran's economy, and that is killing americans in iraq.

do you see where you get with those kind of statements? 

YOU GO NOWHERE!


May 1 2008 1:14PM
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skiminnesota
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*me*

wow, i am full of typos today :)
May 1 2008 1:16PM
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Rosbif
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Firstly, please learn to spell and punctuate, especially if you are going to use caps lock.

I love how you describe Fox as 'semi-conservative' and 'all the others' as 'very liberal'. I would say Fox is disgustingly conservative and most of the others are moderate. I live in the U.K. where some people bitch about the BBC (state funded station) being liberal, and it really is, which I think is a good thing. No U.S. news station that I've seen (only lived in the U.S. for 2 winters btw) is anywhere close to the BBC.

As for your 'argument' about oil, it may be partially true, the U.S. does currently need oil, but that's not a good thing or something that should be encouraged, because oil IS going to run out. Maybe the billions of dollars the U.S spends on wars in pursuit of oil could be better spent on research for an alternative?

Btw a lot of ski lifts now run on wind power (or wind credits).


May 1 2008 1:33PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Cable news is a god damned atrocity.
May 1 2008 1:46PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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CNN, Timewarner, PBS, and NBC are way more situated towards the left than fox is towards the right. Only the editorials on fox (Hannity and colmes, greta wire, the factor) are rightly biased.

But on the other hand, CNN employs mostly left-wing progressive liberals though they are quite subtle about it. the NY times has fully declared itself to be an Obama endorser and has donated money to Obamas campaign. NBC/CNBC/MSNBC has also publically declared it will be "Obama HQ" in order to reach out to younger viewers. Time magazine has publically declared it will now be a Liberal Advocate Periodical. PBS's Moyer fellah is an extreme far left advocate. Yeah its easy to pick on fox but people like to ignore the obvious. The media has been strongly liberal since its invention but when the first conservative outlet pops out, people are quick to criticize it.

When a very influential media outlet decides to donate money and endorse a single presidential candidate who hasnt even won the nomination yet is absolutely dispicable. There might be some conservative EDITORIALS on Fox news, but that is the fucking point you dumb fucks. IT IS AN EDITORIAL.

For the record, Obama was on fox news the other day with chris wallace and he has been complimented repeatedly on fox for how well he handled it.

And one more thing?! HOW THE FUCK CAN AN INTERVIEW BE SPUN? Some of you say its unfair for questions to be loaded?! WTF are you guys talking about?! Interviewers can't ask tough questions now?! Everyone has to be like Bill Moyers absolutely pandering Reverend Wright?! WTF is wrong with people these days?! The job of the media is to CHALLENGE people and ask the tough questions. And for the record have any of you seen Oreilly interview a fellow Republican!? Thats right. none of you have. He is just as tough on them as he is on democrat.

And to further denounce everyone who shits on fox news because they are a dumbass bandwagoner,


rest of it can be found here:
https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/361606/
May 1 2008 1:53PM
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low_fidelity
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duh! Fox News backwards..........

Swen Xof!!!




May 1 2008 1:56PM
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low_fidelity
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i have abolutely no idea what i just said
May 1 2008 1:57PM
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Ben.
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they shoudnt get a tax break BECAUSE THEY ARE RICH!. who should pay the taxes the ones who can afford it or the ones who cant? yep lets give tax breaks to the people making a ton of money and corporations. that makes a ton of sense
May 1 2008 5:23PM
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skiminnesota
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i never said the rich shouldnt pay taxes, so i dont know where the hell you get that from.

give me a few minuets to go find some graphs and statistics, but they will tell you exactly what i will tell you right now.  the rich pay the most money when it comes to taxes, that is a fact!

second, i bet you didnt know, but people who make under X amount  dont  pay a penny in taxes, they actually get money back, in the form of welfare, health benefits, and economic  stimulus  packages. 
May 1 2008 5:30PM
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skiminnesota
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Top 5% pay 53.25% of all income taxes (Down from 2000 figure: 56.47%). The top 10% pay 64.89% (Down from 2000 figure: 67.33%). The top 25% pay 82.9% (Down from 2000 figure: 84.01%). The top 50% pay 96.03% (Down from 2000 figure: 96.09%). The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.97% of all income taxes. The top 1% is paying more than ten times the federal income taxes than the bottom 50%! And who earns what? The top 1% earns 17.53 (2000: 20.81%) of all income. The top 5% earns 31.99 (2000: 35.30%). The top 10% earns 43.11% (2000: 46.01%); the top 25% earns 65.23% (2000: 67.15%), and the top 50% earns 86.19% (2000: 87.01%) of all the income.







May 1 2008 5:33PM
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Ben.
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Cool thanks for spouting what i allready knew at me. I realize that they pay more incom taxes. I just said that. Now tell me which is better, tax the shit out of people making little money. or tax the shit out of people that are making a crapload and can afford it. Whats wrong they cant afford a 3rd lambroghini? they are the ones that should be paying more. its on a bracketed system for a reason
May 1 2008 5:40PM
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TheButterHashira
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Do they have a bias?
Yes
Are they worse than other networks?
Not really. The other networks have a liberal bias and people get used to it so when people watch fox news it seems far to the right. For legit news watch BBC, of course if there are facts that people don't like they write letters to the BBC bitching and thinking they are biased. To the conservatives Fox news is very fair and balanced because the conservatives are hearing what they want to hear. A liberal watching olbermann might think he is very fair and just points out hipocrasies(SP*) while a neocon watchign oreilly may think he is lady justice.
May 1 2008 5:40PM
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Ben.
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and yes people under "x amount" dont pay taxes. thats cuz they are barely surviving as it is.... so the government should tax them even more? i think not
May 1 2008 5:41PM
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mtbakerteacher
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To Jumister: Simply reporting the news is supposed to be unbiased, trying to get what's really happening without a spin. When I said that the questions were loaded, I was not talking about a talk show, this was FOX News, not any of those other ones.
And it's those little spins which invalidate FOX to me.

Also, isn't CNN owned by Murdoch too? I totally forget if somebody told me that or not.
May 1 2008 5:42PM
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skiminnesota
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i dont see where i said they should be taxed more, could you be so kind as to show me?

i support lower taxes for ALL, rich and poor.
May 1 2008 6:00PM
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afton_steeze
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you're just ignorant.
May 1 2008 6:00PM
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Ben.
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and in return what the government is supposed to pull money out of its ass? sorry if i misunderstood but it sounded like you meant that taxes should stay the same except for rich folks should pay less. but regardless the government needs money, with things like the costly war and the fact that by the time most people on this site are of the age to collect social security, its not gonna be there.
May 1 2008 6:11PM
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Carter23
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This country runs on oil for one reason and that is corporate profits. My truck runs on oil for the same reason. Why would big corporations allow electric and hydrogen vehicles that ALREADY EXIST to be on the road when they can be making a KILLING on the oil we already are trained to purchase. We will always be somewhat dependent on oil but our complete dependency is due to the fact that regulations don't allow us to drive efficient, clean powered vehicles.

Also, I am proud that the ski lifts that i ride don't run on oil. or coal. nope. they run on wind power. And please don't try personal attacks like my 'laziness' cause I'll hike your teenage ass into the ground. I climb peaks year round for my turns, especially on a good snow year like we have had here.

As for me being a 'gun grabbing literal that doesn't KNOW shit" - no, I pride myself in being educated in politics, and being 24 years old, a college graduate and architect amongst else I feel I do have an educated opinion and when i see things happening in the world that Fox portrays as 'evil', say, like people who don't believe in Jesus, i get down right pissed. I am going to take a guess that your parents told you about oil and what to think....


Want fair news? Watch the BBC. They say it like it is and don't sugarcoat or dare to even come close to praising this failed administration. Or say "Terror Threat Level Orange."
May 1 2008 7:13PM
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AOTEAROA
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jesus christ. even the fact that you call the fucken bullshit excuse for a show "the factor" means i discredit anything you say.
May 1 2008 10:56PM
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skiminnesota
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part Two starts now!
May 1 2008 11:02PM
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ferrinski86
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the government has not taxed those people more. like skiminnesota said, those people are actually getting money back. for the record people making under X amount, which by the way is 7,825, only get taxed 10% which is all given back in income tax returns. also if you make over that amount (hopefully you do) you actually got a 3% decrease in taxes from president bush. So if Hillary or Barrack get elected open your checkbook and pay out 3% higher in taxes alone. and thats just the start, thats just repealing the tax cuts, wait till she raises them higher. oh yeah, and you cant open your wallet because it is automatically deducted from your paycheck.
May 2 2008 1:43AM
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ferrinski86
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oh, and while i am on the subject of taxes, let me just reinforce that, like we all know, the richest in this country pay a majority of taxes. So if the democrats raise the tax rate, and here i am going to talk hypothetically, and later, decided you know what, i think the rich could afford to pay, 50 60 70 or 80 percent of their paycheck on taxes, cuz they make all the money they can pay a larger sum right. wrong. Just think what would happen, if even the top 100 top tax payers in this country decided that they didnt like supporting the weight of the country in taxes on their shoulders anymore and moved out of this country, the US would fall flat on its face financially speaking. then you would actually see, how much money they actually pay into the system.
May 2 2008 1:54AM
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ProducerXXX
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I find it VERY hard to believe that the NY Times has declared its endorsement of Obama...

If so, HUGE breach of ethics. I need a link.
May 2 2008 2:11AM
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Holte
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You're correct. The NY Times endorsed Clinton. Here's a link if you'd like to read about it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/28/new-york-times-a_n_88900.html


And Jumister, good post.
May 2 2008 2:57AM
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