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A few questions about hellbents...
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Right I guess first of all I should provide a bit of background... I am 5'11" but only 150lbs so pretty light. I have been skiing for a few years, never did any racing as a kid. I am from the UK but love skiing so much that every winter I head out to work in resort, last season I worked in whistler, this season in France, this summer in NZ and then back to whistler next winter. At the minute I have some 176 dumonts for park and line blends for all mountain, the blends are 179 and dive in anything over 6 inches of pow. Last year I had some lizzies but they were too short to float too. I am thinking of getting a 80% pow ski and an all-mountain ski. As a result I want the Hellbent for my pow ski.
So my questions are as follows.
1) will HELBENT fit in a double roller bag with the dumonts or does the rocker mean it takes up all the baggage space, or can you strap the tip and tail for carriage in order to minimize the rocker.
2) Should I go 179 or 189, I do very little charging and float fine on a 179 maiden.... I am thinking the 189 would be too much work for me as the largest I huck is 20 feet.
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The Hellbent has a really big rocker so 189 would be just fine. I think a 179 would feel like a 165 at your height.
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the first thing i would ask is: is a rockered ski really a good idea in the alps? this season aside (which in recent context must be considered an anomaly snow-wise) are you really gonna have enough deep days to justify rocker? this season it woulda been great to have had 'bents with all the pow we had but last season you'd have got 10 days, maybe 2 weeks max of worthwhile skiing on 'bents and you shouldn't assume that just because this season was epic, next season will necessarily be as good...
personally i'd look into omething a little more versatile that will still float great if and when it gets deep, but that will be more suitable in variable conditions. with that in mind, 182 bacons would be a good call if you genuinely don't charge hard, or something like 186 steezes if you do...
just my 2 pence...
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189 is kinda out of the question cos ill need a 195 ski bag to carry them i guess, maybe an ep pro would be better.. Also Im going to whistler i OCtober which will be when I buy my pow ski, just got back from france.
So I guess its another 179 hellbent or 185 ep pro thread....
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I have fit a pair of 179 hellbents and 169 bridges in a bag from the 90's that was only meant for 1 ski. Just put a big rubber band at the tip and the tail to hold most of the rocker down.
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From what I can tell, you will fucking love the EP Pros, I mean you
will love either ski, but the EP Pros are sooooooo playful. The Hellbents are stiffer which is better for variable conditions and the normal sidecut is better on hardpack versus the EP Pros elliptical sidecut (They chatter sooooo loud on hardpack its funny). Anyways in my opinion you need to try out both skis on a powder day to make a good decision, thats what I did, I chose EP Pros, but most people prefer the Hellbents so its hard to say. Keep in mind that the functional length of both
skis is actually shorter than advertised because of the rocker, but
yeah if you still cant fit a 189 in your bag thatd be a problem haha.
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ive never ridden the hellbents.. but i think 179s would be good for you at your weight. but then again im 6' 170, and my 181 AR6s feel small.. but i think you could handle 189s.. depending on your agression
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i would get the k2 obsethed because they are great in the pow not as fat (so it would fit in your bag better) and a better all-mountain ski. plus at you weight it will be good. i am the almost your weight (130) and i have tried them and they are sick
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First off, stop recommending him skis. he is asking about the bents vs eps, just like 5,000 other kids have if you searchbar it. secondly, dont give him the wrong info. rocker makes the ski feel shorter than it is, but im am 6'3" and have skied 179 bents and 186 Ep's (only size) and they both felt fine, im not sure if i would want a 189, even though people say that for my size i HAVE to get them, because i like to play around in the pow and both skis do the trick. yes, bents are stiffer, but only a tad more then the ep's, which are complete noodles. and to Scott^^^there is no difference in sidecuts between the two skis. they both have regular sidecut under foot, just because line calls it elliptical and k2 calls it progressive, they are different terms for the same thing, which is normal sidecut under foot, but nearer to the tip and tail the cut changes to a little bit deeper one, allowing for quicker turns with more pressure.
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The sidecuts are not the same, when I look down at my EP Pros versus the hellbents my friends ski on, its pretty obvious that the Hellbent fattens out further up the ski than the EP, and the size doesnt only apply to the feel...
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jesus, ^ of course they are different looking, they're fucking different skis.
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Yeah, and sometimes they look different because they are built differently, so they function differently. We all know they look differently, but maybe the thread creator would like to know how and why. Please stop posting in this thread if your only goal is to put me down. I am offering advice unlike you, its up to him whether he wants to take it or leave it, but having someone post in a thread like this only to put me down with absolutely nothing to offer of your own~
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