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I choose not to drink or smoke...

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jergriff
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 so im 18 and in college... this has been on my mind A LOT lately... k so i ski a ton and i know that drinking and smoking comes with the territory but i come from a father that is an alcoholic and have seen the gnarly stuff it does to you i have seen him so fucking shit faced that he was gunna beat my ass and he didnt even know who i was and the next day he doesnt remember a thing. now dont get me wrong some drinks are hella good but alcoholism is genetic and im scared that if i start i will turn out like my dad... as for smokin im sure is ballin but to me it just not worth it i dont ever want to try it i have no reason to. i got lots of friends that do and always ask me to smoke a bowl with them and i just tell them no and they respect me for it...
i kno im going out on a limb but i was wondering if there are any fellow NSers that are in the same boat as im in?
im only writing this because i see so many threads about being high and wasted and shit so thought i would post on my views... you can hate on me all you want i dont currr...
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Apr 23 2008 12:41AM
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Ben.
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i dont drink but thats mainly cuz im scared shitless of my parents and im sure next year at college thats gonna change. but i dont plan on ever smoking. idk just not my thing. a ton of my friends blaze all the time though and thats fine.
Apr 23 2008 12:43AM
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PhaedeD
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fuck drinking do whatever you want there but smoking man fuck... dont knock it till you try it bro trust me you will like.
Apr 23 2008 12:43AM
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Alex_G
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Yeah, smoking can be a beautiful experience, don't do it when you are pressured, do it when you wanna try it.

Alcoholism is obviously nothing you want to fuck with there. Thats a good responsible call.
Apr 23 2008 12:49AM
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lloyd_christmas
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no, i'm not in the same boat as you.  however i got mad respect for you, it takes a G to hold your own on that shit, i've had to deal with similiar situations.  it's one thing to knock those things because your scared or close-minded, it's another to have a legit reason and stick to it. keep it pimpin.
Apr 23 2008 12:50AM
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mmckechnie
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I don't drink or smoke, its my choice, cause its sooo readily available in college.  I just don't see the need to.  My fathers side has three generations of male alcoholics, my father, his father, and his father's father.  So yeah that plays into it as well, that I'm genetically predisposed to become an alcoholic.  I'm pretty content in life without having to resort to alcohol and drugs.  I mean i like where i am now, skiing, biking, hiking, soccer, engineering, I don't need anything else.
Apr 23 2008 12:55AM
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chimp
Posts: 616 - Karma: 117
smoking is very soothing and calming i have no intentions on drinking tho  ive done it a couple times had a good time but i just dont like it.
Apr 23 2008 12:55AM
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eheath
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My dad was an alcoholic, i drink ALOT. I don't hesitated to drink or smoke and have a good time. I can't smoke right now, but i drink enough to make up for it. How can ya party without drink? Shit!
Apr 23 2008 12:58AM
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jergriff
Posts: 440 - Karma: 9
whoa guys ur all awesome... i thought i was going to get mad hate for posting this on a ski website... i really appreciate it for me i could fully sit down and drink a beer with my parents my mom offered me a coke and rum on my 18 birthday and i turned it down its hard but i dont wanna be that 45 year old guy like my dad that is just always shammered and can hardly talk... i dunno guys and im not tryin to bash smokin cuz i have never tried it its just i have no desire to i dont care about how good you feel or what ever it is you do feel... because i am i stay away form that shit my parents really respect me my mom trusts me a lot and if i were to ever break that trust i have with my mom i would be FUKKKED
Apr 23 2008 12:58AM
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jergriff
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same boat for sure! haha
Apr 23 2008 1:00AM
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AndrewZ
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I don't smoke, its just not for me. I drink occasionally, but rarely do I go out and get wasted. I was brought up in a house where doing anything like that was a super no go, so last year (my freshman year of college) I partied a ton, drank a lot, and had a good time with it. But this year I realized that I'm much happier just chillin and doin my own thing.

I really have no problem with kids who do or don't use substances (although its sad to see kids who overdo it and have it cause problems). The only people who I have a problem with are thoughs who can't respect the others opinions, whether pushing them to do things or not do things. So mad respect to you for putting up with the pressures of college and doing your own thing and having a good time with it/
Apr 23 2008 1:01AM
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Campeador
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I fully respect you for staying away from alcohol. If my father was an alcoholic I'm sure my view of alcohol would be completely different as well. My family is made up of recreational drinkers and we all have a healthy respect for alcohol, I'm considered the alcoholic of the family even though I only get drunk once every 1-2 weeks.

However, do not knock on the Ganjah. It is an awesome experience if the mood is right and helps put everything into perspective. On top of that, it causes no physical addiction. I'd say under the right circumstances you should try it, its a completely different experience from alcohol. You still retain control of your mind. Some of the best experiences of my life have been smoking some high grade marijuana and dropping down waist deep powder with my friends listening to some of the Expendables.

That being said, don't get sucked into the crowds of people that smoke any bullshit they can get their hands on all the time, i.e. schwag and bammer. Those people just use weed as an escape from life and end up going nowhere, like one of my roommates. Weed should be used as a way of enhancing one's life, not escaping it. It helped me turn my life around back through early high school and got rid of my mindless "teenage rebelliousness".

In the end its all up to you though.
Apr 23 2008 1:21AM
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~Joe~
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Just dont get into it.  Be able to have fun with your friends while they party, you stay sober, but still party.  if that makes sense.  Im 18 and a freshman in college too, and one of my best friends out here doesnt drink or smoke, and hes probably the coolest kid ive ever met.  Just dont be the kid that doesnt go out, or hang out on weekend nights just because you dont drink, have fun fucking with everyone else. 

stand strong man, i wish i never got into either.
Apr 23 2008 1:29AM
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Nico_G
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I get drunk once in a while but I am getting sick of it lately because you do stupid shit and dont remeber alot of it and you feel shitty the next day. Also because it has ruined so many peoples lives and has been proven time and time again that you can get addicted. But As for weed i smoke that shit everyday and have only had positive experiences. I am a much happier person all around because of weed and it just helps make everything better, whether your stressed out or if your with your friends and just all wanna see the world in a differnt perspective. its called a medicine for god sakes so I dont see why you shouldnt try that. But dont do it if you feel like your being pressured. Do it once you feel like your ready because i garuntee you will have a positive experience.
Apr 23 2008 1:32AM
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landonn
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word man.  i'm in the same place as you man.  my family has been torn apart by this shit.  i never see my bro and i havent seen my dad in a year in two weeks.  its gay but my dad was a drunk and so was his dad.  he used to just come home and go staight to bed.  and sometimes he would get pissed off at me and it was gay.  when im at a party with all my friends, i dont usually drink or smoke or anything but we still all have a good time.  i can relate to you well man.  its all good.
Apr 23 2008 1:34AM
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jergriff
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holy hell im so glad that there are other kids out there like me... haha well on NS i thought i would be a minority here... whaterr... drinking is fukked up im sorry i have seen my dad taken out of my house in handcuffs because he was so shit faced and wouldnt leave my mom alone when they were going thru their divorce its gnarly shit i saw his ass get beat to the ground by 3 cops because he decked one in the face... i dunno guys im just glad there are other people out there that have gone thru this. 

Partying on the other hand i always go and act like a dumb ass anyways and everyone thinks im drunk and i have a hell of a time haha anyways i still go out and have a good time just dont need to be intoxicated while doing it. 
Apr 23 2008 1:40AM
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Caveman.
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I respect your decision, I never smoked or drank for most of high school and I am glad I didn't because I came close to not passing english senior year because i had an hour and a half lunch right before class and i would frequently get drunk and go to class not giving a shit. Now I drink and smoke occasionaly, Drinking more than smoking, usually about every weekend and a beer sometimes after work or class. The key is to keep it recreational and not use it as a crutch.
Apr 23 2008 1:51AM
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coolhandluke
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people change.  you'll find what's right for you.

one friend as a freshman went around at parties knocking Js out of peoples hands......by senior year he was flipping QPs from clubs to kids with scales and baggies to scatter around campus
Apr 23 2008 1:57AM
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jergriff
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fukkk ok im not tryin to like bash on it... i just really am tryin to say its not for me i guess even tho i have never tried it i just have no desire to i dont hate on any of my friends that do its their own decision.
Apr 23 2008 2:01AM
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Caveman.
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did he ever get his ass kicked?
Apr 23 2008 2:01AM
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coolhandluke
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you don't get your ass kicked when you're on a college sports team.  they roll too deep.
Apr 23 2008 2:09AM
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djikstra
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My dad was an alcoholic hardcore, but drinking doesn't effect me. I drink sometimes, and sometimes I don't. Get black out everyone once in a long while which is fun but YOU control YOU. Even alcoholics have the power to stop and regardless of your genetics, you can choose to drink a casual amount. and it's genetic DISPOSITION, not genetic DETERMNATION (sp), you control yourself, your geneitcs can just make it harder. and I dont smoke because I dont want to. dont have anything wrong with it, just not for me for many reasons
Apr 23 2008 2:11AM
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sack
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yeah I don't smoke or drink either, but I don't make a big deal out of it and I respect other people's choice to smoke or drink, so most people I know are cool with it, or don't know...
the reason I don't smoke is because my aunt did when she was 12-18 or 20, and she developed schizophrenia likely partly because of her experiences with marijuana and other drugs. mental illnesses can be triggered by a combination of: traumatic experiences such as drug use, pregnancy, and maybe high levels of stress such as a death in the family; other factors; and genetics. so that's just why I don't go near it, it's a personal preference. it doesn't mean you can't go to bars and have a good time. (I have a feeling that sounded laaaame and mom-like)
drugs and alcohol affect everyone very differently, even within a family. if/when you do choose to smoke or drink you may want to look into the effects and your family history further. in my view, people who say "marijuana is good" aren't entirely right. you can't just throw the variance in response to drugs out the window--for some marijuana is good, and for others it's devastating.
I'm gonna stop rambling now.
Apr 23 2008 2:12AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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My dads an alcoholic too. The worst of it was before I was born so I don't really know what he was like but my mom and brother have told me about it. Its still reason enough for me not to drink. As far as weed goes, I just can't stand the smell of it so theres no way I'm going to smoke it.
Apr 23 2008 2:22AM
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Campeador
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Excuse me, but please do not blame Marijuana for Schizophrenia. If you want to blame Marijuana as a "gateway" drug to other drugs that may have caused her schizophrenia, so be it. Marijuana on its own is blameless. If anything Marijuana would have helped her deal with these traumatic experiences. Why do you think its prescribed as medicine?

Marijuana is not a a drug. I truly understood this when I grew it the first time myself and saw how natural it is. I consider a drug any substance that has been tampered with by humans to alter the mind or body.
Apr 23 2008 2:31AM
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laxstar
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thank god i started reading posts before i commented cause this is exactly what i was going to say my dad was and i guess currently still is an alcoholic cause that shit never goes away but just because he was doesn't mean i am going to not trying to knock you cause my dad was never to the point yours is and i thank god for that cause that sounds like a shitty situation but i just know i pre disposed to it and it's something i need to watch out for in life... but if you have never read a million little pieces i suggest doing that cause i honestly agree with that author a ton like putting all the fake story bull shit to the side he says that even though he may have been pre disposed he never blames that because every time he got a drink it was his choice to put the alcohol in his mouth....
Apr 23 2008 2:40AM
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sack
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I can see this thread getting out of hand, but..
I didn't blame marijuana in general. in her case, it was a likely cause, and probably one of two or more causes. obviously a lot of people have smoked it without developing schizophrenia.
I also mentioned that it benefits many people, and I recognize that it's used for medicine.. but it also harms some people.
personal experiences or case studies aren't a valid means of generalizing the any effect to any population. I realize my aunt is a single case, but that is just an example of something that could happen.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drug
Apr 23 2008 2:52AM
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hucksplat
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do what makes you happy, not what pleases others
Apr 23 2008 2:56AM
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sack
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*generalizing any effect
Apr 23 2008 3:01AM
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Love_Wins.
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I've done lots of stuff man, drinking, blazing, pills... I can tell you right now it's not worth it.
I'm clean now, and have been since I had a huge life change when I really met Jesus. Stick to your guns, people will tell you all kinds of ridiculous things to get you to try whatever, but after doing it... you'll realize you gave away more than you got.
Apr 23 2008 5:03AM
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Crack.
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i don't think that's what he was looking for
Apr 23 2008 8:12AM
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Boodje.
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mature desicion.

Apr 23 2008 8:14AM
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ISkiSwitch
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I can't smoke because I have asthma sometimes, and I drink very sparingly. I have most of a bottle of Captain that's just been sitting in my room for months.
Apr 23 2008 10:39AM
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skeeze
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i was an on and off smoker for about 3 or 4 years..once or twice a week only w friends and when i biked then when school got out junior year i started gettin real pissed off and stressed at my summer job and just started smoking every night, then before work and pretty much any other stressful event...school started and i found myself smoking up to 3 times a day...its been almost a year since i started smoking every single day and i can definitely feel the effects, memory loss and i CAN NOT fall asleep unless i smoke....my point- once you use marijuana as a tool to get through your day it is what you will turn to each and everytime you get stressed and eventually it will get to a point where there is no way in hell its good for you...my goal-smoke only when doing an outdoor activity or with friends at night...cause thats when the sensi is real good chea

drinking is also real relaxing but i can not stand "parties" where i feel like im at the fuckin drinking olympics or someshit in the end if you can get through life without doing any drugs and still have a great time then keep doin ur thing
Apr 23 2008 10:47AM
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emopoppins
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indeed, if you want a (good) drug go for cocaine.
Apr 23 2008 10:48AM
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MrPantyDropper
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haha!

Salcedo- the new Noah Webster.

Your definition is fucking retarded.
Apr 23 2008 10:51AM
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charmander
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exactly

good post
Apr 23 2008 10:58AM
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Dr_Feelgood
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nice dude. i dont drink either but i enjoy a cigar every once in a while on the golf course
Apr 23 2008 11:04AM
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FilmingBitch
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Yea man.. It bothers me when people pressure.
I drink but I don't smoke, I used to smoke a bit a few years ago but it wasn't my thing. Even with drinking, I'd rather have a buzz than be totally shitfaced. Everything in moderation... a few times at parties I didn't feel like drinking and I was shocked at the amount of people that wouldn't take any form of reason as to why I didn't drink... I'd say personal reasons, antibiotics, early morning... and they wouldn't accept it as an answer until I said I had problems and then they would. Mind you, I didn't know them very well but I wasn't too pleased with how they were pressuring.

Anyway, back on topic... keep doing what you do and stick by it man. It's really not that hard and more mature people will see where you are coming from and respect you, even if at first it seems tough. Besides, you'll probably live longer haha.

Apr 23 2008 11:13AM
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Campeador
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I used to have asthma. Its gone away since I started smoking back in 8th grade. I'm not going to make any medical claims but I think it cured my asthma. I used to have serious (unable to hardly breathe at all) asthma attacks from my allergies. Now I can even go to tropical places and not feel a thing.
Apr 23 2008 11:42AM
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Campeador
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Its not my definition, just my opinion you fool. Weed is simply the budding flower of the cannabis plant.
Apr 23 2008 11:44AM
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sarahskis
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I'm not in the same boat but i completely respect and look up your decision not to.  I've seen my dad get so shitfaced hes peed on the floor in his room, and its no fun at all.  I drink, and i smoke but not as much as i used to.  Stick to it, and just keep your reasons at heart. + karma for you = ]
Apr 23 2008 11:45AM
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ax_murderer
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! quit blazing yesterday jeaaaa
Apr 23 2008 11:48AM
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skiminnesota
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wow, this is encouraging, i thought this thread would be a bunch of "go smoke blunts" type responses.

i dont drink or smoke either, but i dont tell other people how to live their life, when it comes to that.

i have seen people who cant have a good time unless they have a beer in their hand, and i dont want that crutch.


Apr 23 2008 11:57AM
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Ifeinforsnow
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Ive been told a couple of times that genetic disposition has more to do with your grandparents than with your parents. like everyother generation
Apr 23 2008 12:04PM
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jason...
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well good for u for not drinking or smoking
Apr 23 2008 12:15PM
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SARTRON
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my mom told me once that she would rather have me smoke then drink
Apr 23 2008 12:17PM
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grifter
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. copy that
Apr 23 2008 12:18PM
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eastAR5
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i was a pothead all through high school

now i basically quit cause it isn't fun. i just drink that siiizzzurp .


ill still smoke the buds im growing but thats about it... drinking is what is fun for now



my 60 days in the woods was basically the only time I haven't had any substances, being caffeine, weed, alcohol, adderal , or anything at all in many years. And I honestly didn't feel that different


everyone lives through highs, no one can try and deny that. Whether thats sex, getting all As in school, getting baked, skiing, reading the bible, playing video games its all getting high on something

Apr 23 2008 1:13PM
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Commonwealth
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Same.

Nearly all of my best friends smoke. I choose not to because, quite simply, I don't fucking want to. I don't know how they got into smoking - it could have been stress, peer pressure, siblings - but I'm glad that I never did.

Props to the thread creator, because you stand up for what you believe in. Like someone said before, it is probably hard for me to understand where you are coming from when you said that your father was an alcoholic. But both my parents and I know that I am responsible enough to make my own mature decisions. I don't get drunk 4 nights a week - that's stupid. That may be "fuckin' awesome" for some people, but to me you look like an immature jackass.

Another thing that I hate is when people are completely disrespectful. If you are invited to someone's dorm/house/apartment, you should be respectful of their property.
Apr 23 2008 1:38PM
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freestyler540
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Drinking is ok, but it has to be a social think and without going overboard. Having a buzz is nice, but not to the point of passing out. Weed just sucks in my opinion, last time I gave it a shot, I was so high I coulnt move for a good half hour. It suck to have an alcoholic parent, mine arent, but my grandfather was.


Apr 23 2008 1:42PM
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