360 switch up double kink urban rail transfer AMAZING!!!

Here's a thought. No one gives a fuck what you or your little "crew" think. Rail transfers are difficult. People like them. The people who like them don't go and hate on what you think is cool in skiing. That's because everyone likes different things about skiing, and hate on anyone doing any kind of progression for the sport is fucking retarded. You're fucking retarded. You think you're a real badass because you're on the interweb and no one knows who you are, so you can say what you want and lol u get 2 laff at ppl from behind your computer screen because they get angry when you make yourself into an obnoxious toolbag. Surprise surprise. You're an idiot.

I would like to point out that I never said anything negative about rail transfers...

surprise surprise you dont know who I am and stop acting like you do.

come to our hood and well talk shit just the same. Or we'll come to yours. Basically if you meet us you'll hear us.

PS: This is the internet, hate is the name of the game.

Aight foo's so Ima lay it out straight son. I'm gittin two sides outta dis hurr discussion.

1. Skiing is not progressing in the right direction because people are veering torwards double flips and the such so everyone is a robot right? The alternative you are presenting does not improve anything... all that would happen would be that everyone would not spin over 540 and have a trendy pokemon hip bag. This would turn everyone into robots throwin down way easier shit and there would be virtually no differences in ANYONES style.

2. Everything that involves lots of spinning and flipping= SOOO LEGIT! While they are impressive stuff like dumont's front flip to front full he has to fight to pul it around and it just looks really forced.

There is definately a medium in between all this. I am fully down with watching tricks that are amazing in their subtleties such as noollie lips, tail slides, nose presses, butters etc... It also takes people to push the more athletic side of the sport. While obviously tail slides and such take athleticism I find they fall more in the category of "art" whereas double flips take alot of practice and air sense. These are almost comparable to an abstract painting and a person's portrait. The abstract painting takes its value from having the observer be able to go wherever they wish with it and make with it what they will although it has no defined form. A portrait cannot take on different meanings, it is layed out flat and it is in your face. They are BOTH valid forms of art and both can be admired and get stoked on. In the end I just don't think it's necessary to find fault in the "progression of skiing". People will have fun doing what they want and as long as they are stoked while skiing, why should others judge them and tell them essentially "they're not doing it the right way". Art takes on many different forms yet each has it's merit. As long as you(the thread creator) are having fun while on the hills, streets, wherever, why does it bother you so much what others are having fun doing? I get stoked on all aspects of the sport. I still have my favourite tricks that I enjoy doing but I will get stoked if someone else does something I wouldn't normally do and don't try to bring them down because they have a different way of getting the best experience out of their riding then me.

If dat shit isnt stylish wat is?

i didn't say anything about rail transfers, i'm just a thread lurker.



here is my opinion on rail transfers though:

they are really hard, take a lot of effort, look fucking impressive, remind me of rollerblading (i'm not hating on blading), and just...extreme.

it's fine if people decide to do them, i just wish the general public looked more into peoples skiing. there is more to it than just what is blatantly in your face, there is so much personality and flow involved but that side gets overlooked by the majority (prove me wrong). video parts often (not always) consist of tricks that look really hard and extreme.

i think that we should look into our roots and perfect everything that we have done and add to it before it gets out of hand but there is nothing that a few people can do to change what the entire sport of skiing will progress to.

so everybody go do what the fuck you want to do, not what is cool to do! get inspired by things around your everyday life, look at who you are, express yourselves!
when that happens, the sport will change in a very good way.

 

Scott I think your post is right on.

I fully agree that it would not be ideal if everyone stopped doing these crazy double flips and big spins and rail transfers etc. I think that those things are a valid (who am I to say they aren't) part of the sport, and I want the sport to continue to progress and try new things etc.

All I think, as Zaser already touched on, is that there is a horrible imbalance in skiing right now. If anything I think that style should be more important than just what trick you are doing, but at the very least it should be relevant. I dont mean style as in "omg I held my arms down and afterbanged" but rather style as in really having that next level of flow and subtlety and expression to your skiing.

It's like music. Sure I'm down with having some gnarly guitar shredders, cause it keeps it spicy. But I want to hear some expressive music too!

hah.... Someone is braggin

it may not have been the steeziest thing ever done but i'd like to see you try it. Shit is hard.

you guys dont have a valid point at all. maybe if it was someone who was actually skilled in skiing but all you and your crew are is a bunch of internet nerds who try to create something out of your inability.

Its one thing for wallisch to have his own style and everyone can recognize it without wallisch himself having to go on ns and bash threads and declare that he has his own style.

Its another thing for 3 huge geeks who probably suck at life in all aspects to start hating on everything everyone has done in order to merely level the playing field so you can feel good about something for once in your life. By saying what people have accomplished isnt stylish and doesnt express themselves, youre attempting to downplay true skiing and self promoting your own "style." give it up.

This is NS not one of your weird internet "f0rumz" or something. We're skiiers not haxors or w/e. Go away. stop "trolling"

Afterall this is a sport. Don't try to overly turn skiing into an art form. True there are expressions of style but skiing isnt an abstract interpretive dance. Its still a sport. and you guys suck at sports.

you're saying they aren't? proof please.

yeah, i agree. glass and mikee are being stupid but there is no proof that they themselves dont shred.

but theres no proof that they do either. and before you can go around bashing really good skiiers, you gotta prove that you yourself can shred.

The argument that theres no proof that you cant shred is not a valid one.

once again, this is NS not pokeclipse or that 4chen site or w/e you faggots started. stop hiding behind the anonymity of the internet! And you fucking fags stop sending TWoods viruses or w/e. Mods you should ban their whole crew just for intentionally sending Trevor malicious links.

there is actually a lot of proof, you just have to wait.

They didn't just send the link to Twoods.  It also got sent to several mods. 

It is a bit more complicated than it seems (or maybe not...but we will know soon).  But the one kid got an IP ban, so we will see what happens there. 

A) We are not one unit. I didn't send anything to any mods or anyone. Stop lumping us together as if we were one person,

b) "maybe if it was someone who was actually skilled in skiing but all you and your crew are is a bunch of internet nerds who try to create something out of your inability."

Maybe you don't know shit about who I am or my skiing, and until you do you shouldn't make baseless assumptions. It is a valid argument to say that your statements are unfounded and point out that you have never seen us skiing. I am not saying you should believe that I am a good skier, but you should not make assumptions that I am not until you have seen.

c)"This is NS not one of your weird internet "f0rumz" or something. We're skiiers not haxors or w/e. Go away. stop "trolling""

I dont go on any internet "f0rumz" and I don't troll. And I am a skier too and I am not trying to be a troll or a haxor or anything like that.

d) "Afterall this is a sport. Don't try to overly turn skiing into an art form. True there are expressions of style but skiing isnt an abstract interpretive dance. Its still a sport. and you guys suck at sports."

I am good at sports. I am good at skiing. You have no reason to assume I am not. And if skiing isnt about expressing style then thats too bad, but our whole point is that it should be/is. IT IS AN INTERPRETIVE DANCE. You are on snow and you are dancing... thats the whole point.

e) "but theres no proof that they do either. and before you can go around bashing really good skiiers, you gotta prove that you yourself can shred."

Even if I wasnt a steezy and decent skier I would still have every right to bash skiers that are better than me. In the same way that I can bash a shitty hollywood movie even if I can't make it myself. Just because you can't do something doesn't mean you can't bash it... I don't know why this notion is so popular but it sure is, and it sure is silly.

f) "stop hiding behind the anonymity of the internet!"
I am not hiding behind anything. MANY people on this board know me in person, and I would be glad to ski with you in real life if the opportunity ever arises, and there is absolutely no attempt on my part to conceal my identity.

g) so please stop making flawed, hateful arguments.

h) Let's be friends.

well explained

that was a decent response, however you admitted in a different thread that you are a troll. you are "trolling" for hate and trying to get people pissed off. You stated that you post rude and cocky comments because you think it's fun. That's the definition of trolling.

stop doing that and people will respect you more.

Very underrated post. Winner.

And Mikee, you actually seem legit, that was a solid post, my bad for ripping on you.

I will stop doing that. But that's not actually the deinfiton of trolling. Trolling is talking offtopic just to piss people off. I stay on topic, I just throw in some funny gangster talk and self hype.

yea stop rippin on mikee because he himself has a pretty valid point, and opinion on the matters being discussed in this thread. Believe it or not he and glass have different beliefs and opinions so it would be best to not treat them as the same person or "unit".

you guys are one unit. you guys and only you guys back each other up. youre all a bunch of computer queers. im not lumping you together as one person, im outcasting you as a group of 3.

I can and will make assumptions of your skiing because if you were good, youd be quick to back up your skill rather than rebut with, "you can't prove im not good." Instead you "forget your firewire." You hate on 270's and switchups and pretzels BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO THEM. Theres only one reason to prefer straight slides and "danishes" to more advanced tricks and thats out of inability.

And i can make statements about your personality. I know several things. I know that you introduced NS to 4chen.org or 4chen.com or w/e and that pokeclipse site. You guys introduced us to pokeclipse. You guys introduced in part to Anon. You guys introduced us to "trolls." The fact that you guys know about the aforementioned websites and lingo shows that you have delved rather deeply into the obscure area of the internet. Normal people dont go to 4chen.com or pokeclipse.com or hack for Anon because they have better things to do with their time like getting laid, drinking, smoking, hanging out with FRIENDS. You are a kid who doesn't enjoy mainstream things and thats because as a child youve been outcast. you try to find art a shelter but you suck at that too. you pretty much suck at life.

You specifically said you are a troll. I looked up internet troll on wikipedia the other day. All you do is make posts to bait for hate such as this response. Youre making me look like an idiot because you "troll." Your friends also send malicious links to people thinking they are funny. guess what you guys aren't funny. you just look like a bunch of tools. you guys are gonna be true to lief 40-year-old virgins.

WE ALREADY KNOW YOU DONT LIKE AFTERBANG. SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Case in point: you posting in the SECOND jiberish post.

dont even pretend liek youre good at sports. no one is going to believe it.

Skiing is a dance but its not an interpretive one! At least not the form of skiing here. It is still an athletic activity. Interpretive skiing would be me doing nothing lapping the parks not hitting anything saying im expressing myself. In your type of skiing theres no good nor bad. theoretically everyone would be expressing him or herself no matter what! If he or she was copying someone elses, style, one could say he was simply trying to express his need for imitation! your logic is flawed on many levels.

Ok mr anonymous, what is your full name, where did you go to school, where do you go to school now, and where do you live?

lol my full name is in my signature, I go to school at U of T and I live in ottawa...

Im pretty sure like 300 people on this site already knew that though.

now you're just being silly.

...mhm

look bra, it's one thing to hate on people's skiing, but trying to personally bring michael fucking lifshitz down over an internet messageboard is a whole different ballgame.

first of all, mikee is steezy like a mawfucka. he's been stylin it out ever since i can remember, and he has one of the most intuitive perspectives on skiing out of everyone i know. i don't even need to back him up on that shit because it's obvious, but i will because i gots love in my heart for mikee, no homo.

second, who's the douchebag here? the kid expressing his opinion over the internet to a group of skiers, or the kid who clearly lost his temper over the internet and then tried to play psychologist? how fucking outlandish and hilarious is that!

third, mikee isn't 'anonymous', on the contrary; he's been around this site forever and is well known and liked, created jibberish which was eaten up by the entire website for years, and has video parts from back in the day that still scream 'steee-eee-eeze'!

hold up. who are you? thought so, fall the fuck back.

Exactly

LOL THAT vid. I cant wait till skiers start claiming "270 on starting at the camera"