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Ideas for next year!

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*cowboy*
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Well, I know this season isn't over yet (thank God)... but I have some ideas for next season to make BBP even better!

So, a few of my buddies and I were discussing how BBP pretty much has everything a park rider could ever want... Sickest terrain, dope lodge, skate ramp, etc etc... but the one thing that seems to be missing is music.

Seems like a lot of other parks out west and up in Canada that are of Big Boulder "status" are playing music in their parks. I think this would add even more to the sick vibe. It'd be sweet to have something playing in Freedom and/or Boulder Park.

The other thing that we talked about was the deck under the lift on Boulder Park. There is so much potential for sick things on this deck, it's kinda ashame to see it not being used to its full potential. Going along with the music think, I was wondering what would be involved to put some small DJ equipment up there and have a DJ playing music for a few hours on busy days during the winter. I realize it's probably not practical to have food up there on that deck, but something like a DJ station or maybe like a place to just chill (couches, chairs?) on the deck would be awesome.

So, there are some cheap? ideas to get people thinking.

What would you guys like to see?
Apr 7 2008 12:10PM
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Justo8484
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i've seen snowboarders slide the railing of the deck closest to boulder and drop back down onto the trail after we got some snow, which was pretty sick. while i agree that playing music or having a dj out on the deck would be cool, how do you please everyone? everyone likes different music. i'm sure theres kids up there who listen to more hardcore/punk/rock type stuff, and thats cool for them, but i would hate to ride to that all day. the skatepark i used to go to played music, and all they would ever play was metal type stuff, and if you're not into that, its just way harder to get stoked to ride.
Apr 7 2008 1:11PM
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*cowboy*
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Well, I think most people would agree that there is a certain type of music that is generally liked my most skiers/snowboarders. Look at the type of music that is played in the snowboard/ski films. It's pretty similar. I don't think that this would be a real to not do it. Plus, tons of other places do it... so I don't think it's really a problem. If you don't like the music, you could listen to your iPod.

But yeah, people do hit stuff on the deck... But don't you think it would be better if there was something else going on? It doesn't mean that people still couldn't hit the railing.
Apr 7 2008 1:32PM
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heFF
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ya yoo that would be suchh a sick idea line up boulder park i think with big speakears would be dope and just beats bumpin all day long

and two pet peaves i have with the resort that if they were fixed i would cream myself every run

steeper landings and better lighting otherwise the place is mad legit
Apr 7 2008 4:53PM
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*cowboy*
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Yeah i never ride at night so idk about the lighting. Also, I think the landings were better earlier in the year, it's hard to keep them steep once you get into spring time.
Apr 7 2008 4:59PM
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jerad
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i personally like all of the jibs on Bunny.

i think they should be there all year, that shit is so much fun. i just like how its on a trail that winds/turns versus an open slope, it seems to make the same features a lot more fun...
Apr 8 2008 8:32PM
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*cowboy*
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agreed... stuff on bunny is awesome!
Apr 8 2008 11:07PM
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kjb21
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Good ideas for sure.  There are actually speakers on Big Boulder run.  They are not the best but they work.  We basically had 2 problems when we did play music. 1.  Nobody could agree on the type of music to play.  2.  There is always some parent who complains that the music offends them.

We were using XM radio for a while, but as you guys know a lot of it is uncensored which also was a problem.

What a lot of people said was that they would prefer to just use their head phones intead of having music in the park.  If everyone wants it, it is certainly possible.  It is just hard to make everyone happy.

As for the park on Bunny, I would love to have it year round.  The problem is that it is a popular trail for families.  When we experimented with putting skiier cross types of things over there we had quite a few compliants...
Apr 9 2008 10:51AM
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=Worf=
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if boulder had a pipe i would have no need to go any where else.  
Apr 9 2008 2:48PM
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mcnutty
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i love the late season park on bunny, it would be so dope if they had one there all year. from my understanding, the ultimate goal is to go 100% park, so isn't pleasing families a secondary priority to park riding?
Apr 10 2008 3:02PM
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AndyBill
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i think big boulder slope would be extremely sick if they moved the jumps to the left and had a rail line on the right.
Apr 10 2008 9:12PM
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Black-Bandanna
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On the same run? If so, that'd never work with how wide the jumps are. I like having the middle of that run just the jump line. So fun.
Apr 11 2008 5:18PM
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*cowboy*
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Yah i like Boulder Park how it is. There are so many places for rails around BB, I don't see any point in taking away space from the jump line.
Apr 12 2008 6:26PM
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papasteeze
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Jump(s) of Pro-caliber size, think Mount Snow open, not on Boulder Trail.  With Brogan, Seany and all you others who are making a mark on the freeski scene, we need jumps that match what are at the the comps.

I would like to see 2 jumps on Boulder trail since it seemed that the second jump was skipped more often than not.
Apr 14 2008 8:18AM
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Jared.
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i agree with the two jump idea....maybe move the top jump down the hill a bit so you can hit a rail at the top, then a jump, then the booter at the bottom
Apr 14 2008 12:59PM
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K-Thomas
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YESSSSSSSSSS! BIG JUMPS WITH LONG, TALL LANDINGS!
Apr 14 2008 5:33PM
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Black-Bandanna
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Hellllllllll yes.
Apr 14 2008 5:46PM
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papasteeze
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KT,  mad apologies for grouping you in with the "others".  Making it to the finals at the MT Snow Open totally makes anything you say 10 times more legitimate.    What exactly would you like to see at Boulder?
Apr 15 2008 10:22PM
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K-Thomas
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i've already stated that haha. I know it's tough to make real big jumps w/ real high, long landings cuz they take a shit load of snow, but i figure bb would put forth some effort (likethey have the past two seasons)  All the rails have been really fun for the most part.  Another thing is more events.  It seemed like this year all there was were those friday night jams, the team comp(which was waaay late and not as advertised as last years), a few snowboarder only comps,  then may day.  Boulder's got one of the best park's on the east and i'd love to see more big events there, especially ones that include jumping haha.
Apr 16 2008 1:27PM
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meggles
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I'm sorry--did you SERIOUSLY just imply that the "others" opinions don't matter? Only the best right? Haahaa. Boulder for ya right there.
Apr 16 2008 6:16PM
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K-Thomas
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I could be wrong, but i took it as...kids who are competing in big events need similar types of features found at said events to practice on.  I don't think he meant anyone who's not competing doesnt matter. That's just how i took it, but in my opinion i think everyone's voice should count for something since boulder's got a lot of potential to produce great skiers and i'm sure papa would agree with that. 
Apr 16 2008 9:26PM
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meggles
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Well, if that's the case then my bad. The phrasing just threw me off. I saw that as, the more/bigger comps you did, the more important your opinion was. Which is not very cool. But that would be a douche thing to say so I'm sure I just misread it. Sorry papa.
Apr 16 2008 9:31PM
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K-Thomas
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i kind of agree with that to an extent actually.  Not necessarily more important of an opinion, but more critical you are of features. I know i've gained a lot of experience with bigger stuff over the past few years, and i'm way more picky with the  stuff i hit now than i was 4 years ago. I just think that if people are going to do pro level competitions, they should have pro level stuff to train on.  I know it's not boulder's responsibility to just serve these people, but it is important to have stuff for all abilities. Things change a lot on bigger features, jumps mainly.  There's a lot more potential for injury, and also more potential to learn.
Apr 16 2008 10:47PM
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Justo8484
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exactly. they've got the beginner to intermediate stuff nailed with freedom and widow, and they've done a great job with that. boulder was good, and the jumps were nice, for PA, but what papa and kevin are saying is that, although they're good for around here, they're not up to par with stuff you find at park city, aspen, keystone, breck, whistler, stratton, etc. where a lot of the big events are. they've got every level of progression covered except for those who legitimately want to take their game to the pro level, and there are a pretty good amount of kids at boulder who really could take it there. papa was just citing a few as examples. i wouldnt put myself on the same level as jon or kev, but i've got more experience riding park than almost everyone up at boulder, and i agree with them that, when you're hitting bigger features like what boulder park could be, a little more time, thought, and care could be put into making jumps in the 50-60 foot range both better to learn on for those of us who are pushing ourselves in that respect, and also safer for those of us who are just beginning to get comfortable on jumps of that size. 50 foot stepdowns are not the way to do that. jumps like the JOI jump, stuff from super sessions, and stepover style jumps in general inherently have lower consequences if you do come up short, and can provide much longer, steeper landing than can be achieved with stepdowns. the first jump on boulder park closing weekend is a prime example of the right direction to take with building jumps. you just couldnt get speed for it.
Apr 18 2008 1:46PM
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papasteeze
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The Thomases described what I was trying to say earlier in this thread, perfectly.  Megan, you will have to go to my original post to understand how I used the word "others"  I absolutely meant no disrespect and actually felt silly about that post since I mentioned the Mt Snow Open and did not mention Kevin specifically, Kevin made it all the way to the finals and I consider his skills on the same level as the "pros".  anyways...

I think back to Christmas break and the day Tom Wallisch was there.  He hit boulder trail jumps collectively over a hundred times.  Why?  Because Park City still didn't have their park built yet!

Where I am trying to head with this, is that Boulder stands to gain a lot by upping the ante with "pro" sized feature(s) early as possible, that is my idea for next year.


Apr 18 2008 6:08PM
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K-Thomas
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bingo. I think boulder has a lot of potential and should recognize that they have some pretty good skiers, and riders, shredding there. Thanks papa for the kind gestures, and i would love to ski boulder more next season, earlier in the season on nice features to take things up a notch.
Apr 19 2008 1:25AM
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*cowboy*
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I liked what some of you were saying about more events. I would have liked to see more big events happening on the weekends. There was a lot of big snowboarder stuff that happened (which is really sick!) but I think there is potential for a big turnout for freeski (or combined) comps as well. It seems like a lot of kids travel around 1 to 3 hours one-way to boulder. That'd be an interesting poll actually... Anyway, it's hard for us to make Friday night comps when we live 2 hours away.
Apr 19 2008 10:52AM
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papasteeze
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The problem I think, is that Ian is very open to skier comps and is looking for leads or help. His skiing contacts is limited? Put yourselves in his shoes, he is snowboarding oriented, it would be hard for anyone of us to put on a snowboarder event if we were in his shoes.

Most of you have read my posts raving about the Salomon Jib Academy, I wish other pro teams would do events like that. 
Apr 19 2008 1:06PM
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Justo8484
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that's what message boards like this and PASR are for. i know boulder has representatives on both places; if they want to do more skiing oriented events, reach out to the community, we'd be glad to help, but we're not going to do it for you. i'm sure any number of shops would be glad to help out as well. they've got alpina pretty close, granted i've never been in there to see what kind of product they have for us. The k2 skis rep regularly skis at frost, and i've skied with him at boulder a few times as well, and i'm sure there are other reps from around here who would be willing to help out too. they just need to try and make the effort.
Jun 27 2008 12:37AM
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papasteeze
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Yeah..   what I propose is one large skier event. The date needs to be picked early as in well before end of summer in order to get into sponsor budgets and subsequently their advertising. 

Personally, I think it should be over Christmas break to get the largest amount of talent that is possible home for the holidays.  This will help keep the ringers out too..

The problem with that is that is on of the highest traffic times, on the other hand would it really hurt revenues that much if it was only on Big Boulder trail?

Format:   What is the best and most fun and fair format?  THere needs to several categories and age groups and finals.   I love how Salomon does their Jib academies.

Really though a big event will only work under the direction of a skilled promoter.  We need someone like John from Buckmans.




Jun 27 2008 2:50PM
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K-Thomas
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yes yes yes yes yes. i would love if they had some sort of big air jump, or big slopestyle course that would have the potential for good media coverage.  I agree with christmas break for sure as long as they could build a really sick course/feature(s) by then. Papa is ian down for something like this?? I'd love to help.
Jun 28 2008 5:00PM
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papasteeze
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Yeah  Ian is down for it, of course. He is not against skiers or anything like that.  He knows what is up with you, brogan, seany, Big ben comparitively to the snowboarding scene. Ian just doesn't have the contacts.  We sort of need to get people interested and involved and then have them fine tune it. 


Jun 28 2008 5:18PM
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=Worf=
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skiing is gay! haha
Jul 2 2008 2:56PM
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K-Thomas
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so is pipe.







jay kay worf!!!
Jul 3 2008 1:36AM
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*cowboy*
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wow this thread got long... and sticky! I miss BB.
Jul 4 2008 6:46PM
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Justo8484
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the most fun event i have ever competed in is still the team comp boulder put on two seasons ago, even if skiers got screwed bad. doing something along those lines, with teams of 3-5 people, skiers or snowboarders, but also bringing in an individual aspect to it as well, would be really fun. that way the people who still stand out individually would be rewarded, but the crew who rides the best overall, as a team, can be rewarded as well, even if they don't necesarily have the single best rider on the hill. the team comp was cool, but i think they could have worked the team aspect of it more. as far as i know, it was just combined scores from each rider for each feature. maybe do a s-k-a-t-e type thing, (or IMYTA from rollerblading) where you start out with a more basic trick, and then add to it with each subsequent run? i'm just rambling off the top of my head, but i don't think the team aspect has really been tapped to its full potential, and boulder could do something that hasnt ever really been done, getting them even more recognition in the freeride scene. if you're really pusruing this papa, let me know if there's anything i can do to help.
Jul 7 2008 11:40PM
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katrina
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aspen set up some really rad features end of season. one of which was this long line of boxes it was like a double kink to a down to a flat then a stepdown then another flat it was like 60 ft long it was so sick.  also has anyone been to northstar in the last few years? you know that angled butter box that was pretty sweet.  also kinked c.
Nov 5 2008 11:25PM
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