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What are you wanting in a "proggressive ski"?

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carbon.pulse
Posts: 3348 - Karma: 22
With all these new shape skis such as the Armada ARG, K2 Hellbent, Lib Tech NAS with magnatraction, Line EP Pro, Moment Reno Rocker etc, with wavy sidecuts, reverse camber, rockered tips and tails there are a lot of new shapes evolving in skis these day.

What do you want in a "proggressive ski"? What kind of skis do you think would really progress skiing? Such as things like magnatraction for better hold in icy pipes, rockered skis in the park for more proggressive butters being combined into tricks etc?
Mar 21 2008 5:08AM
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stingfire
Posts: 315 - Karma: 13
What about the crazy weird sidecut on some of the Salomon boards? it looks almost like 5 straight lines almost
Mar 21 2008 8:22AM
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jeremy.g
Posts: 4931 - Karma: 459
an absolutely indestructable ski. wouldn't snap/ edges wouldnt crack
Mar 21 2008 9:06AM
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Mr.LemonPie
Posts: 4100 - Karma: 1,625
A magna traction, 97 at waist, mini-rocer super light, kinda soft but really buttery with rocker, park ski.
Mar 21 2008 9:18AM
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T-Time
Posts: 231 - Karma: 11
A fat park ski that is rockered and super soft. 100mm at the waist
Mar 21 2008 9:24AM
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PBraunstein
Posts: 1448 - Karma: 3,804
ep pro in all different sizes (diff length and maybe dif sidecut)... its a perfect ski... i also heard that the banana board will offer 3 different rocker levels.. kind of a cool concept
Mar 21 2008 9:50AM
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PBraunstein
Posts: 1448 - Karma: 3,804
^^opps i meant diff length and maybe diff width under foot.. (sorry im retarded)
Mar 21 2008 9:51AM
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Twinjibber77
Posts: 6239 - Karma: 2,354
magni-traction on every ski made pretty much


such a nice feature....specially on a park ski....idk how it does on rails

but sidewalls are super durrable
Mar 21 2008 9:57AM
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Peter.
Posts: 23796 - Karma: 13,014
anthem is close, just not rockered


Mar 21 2008 12:38PM
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ThaLetterM.
Posts: 8609 - Karma: 1,613
100mm underfoot, symmetrical, buttery as baked bread but still with some pop, rockered, and with a picture of me on it
Mar 21 2008 12:45PM
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Ryanvdonk
Posts: 12811 - Karma: 1,971
87 waist, tons of camber, are stiffer park ski. symetrical would be nice too. basically a slightly wider addict with less sidecut and a little stiffer.
Mar 21 2008 12:58PM
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chicken
Posts: 6843 - Karma: 2,123
narrowish underfoot, like 75-80.
not too much side cut, i don't need to lay out slalom carves on these fuckers
super light
tons of pop (fairly stiff but keep in mind i way 130 so mid stiff)
symmetrical (mounted true centre).
strong edges and fast bases
killer graphics
Mar 21 2008 1:04PM
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rudager
Posts: 11335 - Karma: 4,624
A progressive ski for me would have
-fat waist and dimensions
-rockered
-twin
-and a decent turning radius

so im going for the rossignol S7, 145-115-123
the turning radius is 18 metres believe it or not, the thing is rockered, and the tail isnt that different from the wiast besides the fact that its rockered.
I talked to Dan treadway about the ski, he says that they made it so it can still hold an edge on grooomers and what not
Mar 21 2008 1:07PM
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MoistAbode
Posts: 1132 - Karma: 37
this would be sick
Mar 21 2008 1:10PM
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BvK
Posts: 868 - Karma: 11
super light, buttery but responsive ski
Mar 21 2008 1:21PM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
-Built in Altimeter, GPS, and LCD touchscreen
-Grenade launcher
-Klister wax slick function (to slow down pursuers)
-graphics should change color as the temp changes, kind of like those old "hypercolor" t-shirts
-hollow bindings that also function as canteens
-pop-out hang glider wings for clearing really big gaps


Mar 21 2008 1:42PM
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Dan-Man
Posts: 7487 - Karma: 3,618
a rail ski with p-tex edges would be dope
Mar 21 2008 1:50PM
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asfffffffffdd
Posts: 1554 - Karma: 1,103
my thoughts exactly
Mar 21 2008 1:53PM
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bikerocker
Posts: 1427 - Karma: 461
115 waist
182 length
symetrical
like a 50mm up/ 50 cm inwards rocker
eliptical side cut

basically a bacon that's really rockered...
Mar 21 2008 2:46PM
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punkrock32
Posts: 1183 - Karma: 21
For park:  186 length
88
Mar 21 2008 2:57PM
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anthony_B
Posts: 1279 - Karma: 64
My thoughts exactly
Mar 21 2008 3:00PM
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punkrock32
Posts: 1183 - Karma: 21
Didnt finish that: 186 length
88 underfoot
bombproof edges
decent sidecut
stiff wood core
fast bases
Mar 21 2008 3:01PM
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troublemaker3
Posts: 1954 - Karma: 225
i have some really good ideas for better float in powder and such but im not letting them be taken on here
Mar 21 2008 3:06PM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
blinking lights and an iPod dock.
Mar 21 2008 3:10PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
Posts: 9108 - Karma: 16
If I could only have one ski that would probably be it.
Mar 21 2008 3:17PM
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hank_hill
Posts: 1273 - Karma: 217
ummmm super rocor'd snowblades or 210 strait k2's that have blinking lights when you hop or hit some turbulence
Mar 21 2008 3:25PM
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hottate
Posts: 242 - Karma: 109
cup holder and vanity mirror
Mar 21 2008 3:48PM
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Federation
Posts: 430 - Karma: 17
A combo of the Ar6 and the Pipe cleaner.
Mar 21 2008 5:08PM
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MCIRONCOCK
Posts: 3094 - Karma: 30
A triangle.
4 inches thick.
With a knife on the front.
Mar 21 2008 5:10PM
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unchyll
Posts: 4554 - Karma: 96
I think a good progressive ski should be pretty fat so you have something to land under when learning new tricks and buttery as fuck at the same time to get the feel of nose butters and shit. Then just give it the same exact graphics as the THALL pro so hella kids buy it. Damn i should start a business, golden
Mar 21 2008 5:22PM
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rxvcgiii
Posts: 690 - Karma: -19
This is the exact ski that I'm looking for. Closest thing I've found is the Surface Watch Lifes...
Mar 22 2008 2:03PM
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troublemaker3
Posts: 1954 - Karma: 225

you just described the t-hall exactly. and its been done

Mar 22 2008 2:21PM
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DJSTEVEINNIAMIXX
Posts: 1859 - Karma: 1,661
115 wide
172 length
rockered shit
hellbent stiffness
poppy
indistructable
nice sidecut
racer base

this ski would be for fooling around in pow .

then i would want a charging ski and park ski
Mar 22 2008 2:25PM
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emopoppins
Posts: 3996 - Karma: 269
183 STL as stiff as the 180 firstblood.
Mar 22 2008 2:44PM
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Piste.Off
Posts: 11586 - Karma: 1,860
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Mar 22 2008 3:14PM
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Jwalk
Posts: 4647 - Karma: 134

PARK
-butterzone tech
-edge armour
-stiff underfoot
-flexy tips
-75mm underfoot
-race bases
-wood core
-sandwich con.

BIG MTN./ POW
- stiff as tnk
- mini rocker
- 120 mm underfoot
-wood core
-twin tip
-built in light weight avi beacon

Mar 22 2008 3:26PM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
Might want to reconsider that one.....

Unless of course you want the rescuers to spend 20 minutes digging for your ski that ripped off, while you lay buried 100 feet away....
Mar 22 2008 3:40PM
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bpalmer
Posts: 2408 - Karma: 93
i agree. i break so many fucking skis, i was wondering the other day: if someone made a like super-titanium edge indestructible park ski that couldnt ever snap or lose edge or anything, but was just like a regular park ski, like an ar6 or something, how much would you pay for it? a grand? 1500? more?

i mean, i've spent so much money on skis that break...
Mar 22 2008 4:19PM
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Pklink04
Posts: 5608 - Karma: 392
k2 used to have a carve ski with blinking lights on it, i forgot why they blinked though
Mar 22 2008 4:53PM
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PBraunstein
Posts: 1448 - Karma: 3,804
so you can see the gapers carving in your landing as you come around on your 5... duh...
Mar 22 2008 4:59PM
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Jwalk
Posts: 4647 - Karma: 134
wow im a tar tar
Mar 22 2008 6:29PM
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Alex_thedroog
Posts: 3433 - Karma: 2
hellbents as light as a feather
Mar 22 2008 6:35PM
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SoulSkia
Posts: 570 - Karma: 14
I think the next step is in the durability of park skis for people who hit rails and boxes. Edges are cracking and derailing way to easily. I wonder if ski companies really even want to make more durable skis, since they would sell less. They need much thicker Stronger edges underfoot or something.
Mar 22 2008 9:53PM
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joly.sp
Posts: 2305 - Karma: 585
Park ski would be something like this....

173 length
90-95 waist
ollieband (lots of pop)
butterzone
strong edges

Pow ski.....
178 length
120 waist
ligthweight
Lots of pop again
mini rocker
Mar 22 2008 9:58PM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
because they had piezoelectric fibers in them. Pretty sweet idea if you ask me.
Mar 22 2008 10:12PM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
the piezoelectric fibers also helped dampen vibrations.

Head Intelligence skis and tennis racquets have the same stuff just without the gimmicky blinking lights (Which would be awesome).
Mar 22 2008 10:15PM
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bpalmer
Posts: 2408 - Karma: 93
85 underfoot is not "pretty fat". but yeah, its been done.
Mar 22 2008 10:37PM
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Danger.
Posts: 3476 - Karma: 58
light, stiff, early rise + slight rocker, 90 underfoot, completely symmetrical.
Mar 22 2008 10:38PM
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LIL_WAT
Posts: 1900 - Karma: 475
twin tip
flexy
symmetrical sidecut
light
good edges
fatty base and edge
narrow

thats why im getting invaders
Mar 22 2008 11:58PM
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garrett.
Posts: 9304 - Karma: 3,670
park -
super stiff everywhere untill about a foot in front of the nose piece where it should get a little buttery
178
118-80-118

pow -
softer in the tips and tail but really stuff under foot
178
135 - 110 - 135
Mar 23 2008 12:03AM
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Nakas
Posts: 248 - Karma: 252
sidecut desinged to be mounted forward
super light bindings possibly ski blade wire bindings
elliptical side cut
butter zones
holographic Pokemon card topsheets
Mar 23 2008 12:07AM
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