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c-wayne
Posts: 253 - Karma: 906
yep today i hit like a 30 foot step up with a 180 and hit some guy. I took off thinking noone was dumb enough to stand on the other side of a jump landing but this guy was. When i do 180's i dont look over my shoulder to spot my landings so i was about to touch down and i hit something really solid. I looked over my shoulder and saw some guy fly like 20 feet and then tumble pretty good. Yea he was ok so I just kept goin in case he was mad. The cool thing is i like bounced off of him and kept spinning and completed a 360 and rode away. My back is sore tho.
Mar 20 2008 9:31PM
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Avifarer
Posts: 5926 - Karma: 598
my friend broke his collarbone on the weekend because he hit someone who was in the landing
Mar 20 2008 9:32PM
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shredwards
Posts: 417 - Karma: 68
thats a pretty cool move, good thing you didnt kill they guy, that would be a shitty lawsuit.
also their is a sick video of SkiandDEstroy doing a switch 7 and tapping some little kid on the head.
Mar 20 2008 9:35PM
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T_orageskiier
Posts: 580 - Karma: 13
people sitting on landings is like my pet peeve ticks me off so much some people just don't think lucky you tho lol
Mar 20 2008 9:37PM
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Tinga
Posts: 11349 - Karma: 2,333
you really should have asked him if he was ok. we all know it was his fault but for real.
Mar 20 2008 9:37PM
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Federation
Posts: 430 - Karma: 17
Snowboarders do that. It pisses me off.
Mar 20 2008 9:43PM
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SteevJee
Posts: 1916 - Karma: 144
hahahahaha nice
Mar 20 2008 9:45PM
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grahamhowe
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so do skiiers.
Mar 20 2008 11:07PM
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huckaberry
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haha gapers
least you landed it
Mar 20 2008 11:44PM
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jason...
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i've landed on 2 people this season, i already made a claim thread about the first one which was a chick whos head i landed completely on
Mar 20 2008 11:47PM
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chames
Posts: 2331 - Karma: -33

didnt he say he looked ok? and if anyone should be askin it should be the fucker sittin on the landing

Mar 20 2008 11:51PM
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TWoods
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in some states, hitting someone while skiing and leaving the scene is criminally punishable by law... So even though it was his fault the collision happened, you could be in trouble with local or state laws for leaving the scene before talking to the guy. If you even talk to him and realize he is ok, and mad you can dip quick, but you should at least talk to him.

If he is injured, then yiou have to stay until ski patrol arrives.
Obviously it was his fault it happened but it's still a good idea to stick around for a minute.

sucks though, it's happened to me before.
Mar 21 2008 12:20AM
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chames
Posts: 2331 - Karma: -33
yea ur right that would be a good idea, i'd be so pissed tho, i might end up goin up and yellin at him and gettin into more trouble
Mar 21 2008 12:26AM
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anthony_B
Posts: 1279 - Karma: 64
You think there are any vids where like a guy does a jump and cuts someone's head off. Theres a figurskating clip where a pair are spinning and the dude slashes the girls face. It's pretty f'd up.
Mar 21 2008 8:11AM
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stingfire
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So what you are saying is that you essentially jibbed that dude.
Mar 21 2008 8:21AM
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FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
so..why do most skiers automatically assume they are mad and try to avoid them by sking away!?  if it ever happened to me i would be right up and in there face because ITS THERE FAULT.  All skiers should do this...when you skied away thinking he was mad...you pretty much just showed him that you thought you were in the wrong.  So dont be pussys, get in there face....because you know most of the people we hit(just look at the storys on here) would have no problems trying to yell at us.  So dont back down!!!!!!
Mar 21 2008 9:29AM
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fragglemuffin
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i seriously cant stand all the gapers who come in the parks and sit on the landings....i was going to hit this 15-20 foot table, and i was next up in the line of ppl waiting to hit it. This gaper girl whos prolly 12 yrs old or something around there was just standing about 10 feet away from the jump like right in the way of anyone who wants to hit it, so about 5 ppl go to hit the jump and just pass her. As soon as i drop in, this girl starts skiing away, but at the last minute, cuts me off and rolls over the lip of the jump. Meanwhile, since i dont have enough speed anymore to clear the table, i go over the roller on the side and 180....This fucking gaper must have taken the lip off the jump, then after landing, skied over to the part of the landing where i was gonna be, then just stopped there for shits and giggles or something, and so i of course land right on top of her. Moral of the story: every resort should either begin to make ppl who ride park get a park pass, or have a guy skiing around taking passes off anyone who rolls over lips, cuts ppl off, stand on landings, etc.
Mar 21 2008 9:32AM
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PBraunstein
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this is actually a really good point... why is it that kids get passes punched and pulled for skiing switch and skiing "spiritedly" but gapers and such dont get pulled for jackin off in our parks... idk.. it pisses me off when i have to worry about spoting a noob in the landing while spinning my 5 or wait for some damn gapers to get out of my way trying to hit a feature...
Mar 21 2008 9:43AM
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c-wayne
Posts: 253 - Karma: 906
naaaaaa... he was a big 25ish year old guy with his queer budies and was probebly pissed. I'm 15 and 5.2 and was solo so he probely woulda killed me or somethin real bad. I kept goin mostly because i was in claim shock because i landed it.
Mar 21 2008 9:43AM
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monstertruckk
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doodzor you my friend must be the baddest mother fucker alive
Mar 21 2008 9:56AM
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RepYoSet
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k lemme start off by sayin it was obvs his fault, shouldnt hav been in the way and shit, but dude u skied away incase he was mad? kinda a bitch move if u ask me. whats he gona do? if i was in his position id be way more pissed if i got nuked and the guy didnt even stop to see if i was aight
Mar 21 2008 12:58PM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
Wow, nobody in this thread seems to consider the fact that it's YOUR responsibility to make sure a landing is clear. No wonder so many skiers out there look at twin tippers as retarded ego-centric idiots.

Maybe the guy who got landed on was there because he just fell on the landing and had just finished picking himself up by the time cool-guy here landed on him. And even if that's not the case, and he was just being stupid, well tough shit kids, it's still 100% your responsibility.

Maybe the next time YOU fall on a landing, some retard will fail to check the landing and launch onto your head, and then him and his buddies can go bitch online about you being completely at fault for getting landed on.

It's called the skiers code kids, and "the downhill skier always has the right of way", even if they are idiots who are standing in a landing, having lunch in a blind spot, whatever.

If I ever crashed on a landing and then got hit by someone who didn't make sure the landing was clear, I might be able to let it slide, IF they apologized. But if that person then started acting like it was my fault, then they'd get to taste a mouthful of Lange boot.
Mar 21 2008 2:07PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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part of the skiers code is also to never stop in blind spots.


Mar 21 2008 2:17PM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
Uh, no kidding really?

Anyways, we all know that, and we all know how stupid it is to do that. And if the guy was someone who just stopped there, then yes, it was stupid and someone should let him know that.

HOWEVER, "downhill skier has the right of way" always takes priority over "don't stop in blind spots". Primarily because of the fact that people can crash in a landing or a blind spot. Ever crash on a landing? Does that give people an excuse to land on your face?

So REGARDLESS of whether someone is in a landing or a blind spot due to a crash or simply their own stupidity - It is the responsibility of the uphill skier to avoid them, period.
Mar 21 2008 2:25PM
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SSteezle
Posts: 9300 - Karma: 7,700

and if they're standing in the landing there not doing that... are you fucking dumb?
Mar 21 2008 2:29PM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
OK genius, do you need it spelled out for you?

Imagine you just fell, then because you hit hard, rung your bell, whatever, you took a couple seconds to stand up. Right when you get to your feet, some kid lands on you.

To the kid in the air, he comes over the knoll and simply sees "some idiot standing on the landing".

That is why, once again, REGARDLESS of why someone is in a landing, it is still the jumpers responsibility.

If you can't agree on that, then you are as much of a hazard to the park as people who stop in landings.
Mar 21 2008 2:39PM
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wordzofwizdum
Posts: 476 - Karma: 448
took out some gay
Mar 21 2008 4:54PM
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icon1234
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uhm okay... so lets say your doing a 3 hit jump line or something. The guy in front of you who drops clears all 3 jumps fine and you see him riding away, you then drop and began to do your line. After the 2nd hit you land switch and hit the 3rd hit switch. As your approaching the jump some gaper deices to go threw the landing right in the sweet spot to cut over to another trail; your in the middle of your rotation when you see this guy out of nowhere. You try to avoid but still land on him and hurt him, that is most def his fault. This has happed to me b4 and i asked to see if the guy was okay, but its still 100% his fault, at least i believe so. 

Now if someone is hitting the jump and you dont know if they cleared the landing then you need to be 100% sure that he is clear and good to go, but just because u land on them doesnt make it your fault.
Mar 21 2008 5:07PM
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Reed.S
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i did that and it broke my tip so i got new skis!!!!!!! hahahahhaa
Mar 21 2008 5:22PM
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Mr.LemonPie
Posts: 4100 - Karma: 1,625
basically it was his fault in your situation, alot of the time it would be a 50-50 or 70-30 blame on both people for injuries type stuff...like if someone was standing there randomly and there was know way to know he was there (didn't see him in the park, noone informed you of him) it would be 50-50. If you hit someone who fell it would be your fault, if you were in the air and then they got in your way then 100% there fault. I hit a kid once on a 35 foot table first hit...gapers standing on the knoll just hanging out, I am abot 5 feet from takeoff when one of these idiots goes straight to the sweetspot...I was so mad.
Mar 21 2008 5:48PM
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FreeBallin
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why cause i wouldnt run away with my tail between my legs like you?
Mar 21 2008 6:09PM
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troublemaker3
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last year i hit a 40 ft table and all i saw was 4 or 5 young girls sitting across the landing just under the knuckle. i landed on one ski so my other one didnt crank 1 of them in the head and washed out on the landing. i asked them what the fuck they were doing and they started giggleing and said one of them got snow down her pants. i cant explain how furious i was
Mar 21 2008 6:34PM
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tride
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Unless somebody cuts into your flight path AFTER you take off, then yes, it is your fault, not just a little bit, but 100%..

Let's put it this way, I work in parks, and have for many years. People who stop or stand in landings get lectured hard, because they are generally uneducated idiots who don't even understand that they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.

But people who land on others, they get their their passes pulled. And for good reason, you could kill someone by landing on them. Whether they are standing in the landing due to their own ignorance, or lying there because they just crashed makes absolutely no difference to the fact that, as the jumper, it is 100% up to you to make sure the landing is clear before you take off.

It's a very simple rule: If you hit a skier who is downhill from you, it is your fault, so quit trying to pretend otherwise.
Mar 21 2008 6:43PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 150
I wouldn't attribute 100% fault to the skier hitting the jump..it should be a combined fault.

1. When passing or overtaking another skier you must avoid the skier below you.
2. You should not stop where you obstruct a trail or are not visible from above.

Mar 21 2008 7:01PM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
Well, if you ever crash really bad in the park and are lying there knocked out in the landing, being in effect "not visible from above". I would imagine that in that situation, if someone were to hit the jump and land on you, you might not feel that it is very much of a "combined fault".

Or if your friend was lying in a landing after a crash and someone landed on them and killed them, would you still think that it was partially his fault? What if someone said "well he was stopped in an area not visible from above", would you think that it was ok then?

The whole point of the "downhill skier" rule is that there could be any number of reasons that a landing or ablind spot is not clear, but the jumper/uphill skier is the one who has to determine that before they go.

The actions, and therefore the fault, of a jumper who sends it onto a landing that he has not confirmed is clear, are not determined by the reasons that the landing is not clear.

OF COURSE you should not stop where you are not visible from above, but guess what, people do all the time and you have to be prepared for it. If you come over a blind knoll and injure somebody, their families(and these days probably their lawyers too) sure aren't going to care that they were sitting in a blind spot. You will be held 100% responsible as the uphill skier.

Take a look at ski hill litigation over the years and you will see that the "Downhill skier has the right of way" rule takes precedence over the "should not stop where you are not visible from above" in every single case.
Mar 21 2008 7:21PM
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Silence
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I agree 90% with your post - in that an injured skier who is in a blind spot certainly isn't at fault, but where stupidity prevails and someone is sitting in a landing etc, then it's different.

Of course it's hard to make the distinction between someone who is injured and someone who is just plain dumb.

I personally see that anyone who can see the landing should be signalling out to the skier if someone is in the way - (obviously this doesn't happen 100% of the time though)
Mar 21 2008 7:30PM
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tride
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Yeah, exactly. And that's why 100% of the responsibility has to fall on the jumper.

In either case, the actions of the jumper remain the same - Which is to say: they went blindly into an unconfirmed landing and hit someone who they couldn't see when they took off.

So the reasons behind why the person that they hit happened to be in that blind spot, will not make any difference when it comes to determining who is at fault.
Mar 21 2008 7:52PM
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jack.whelan
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i never understand the bitching that goes on about people jumping off the sides of jumps. did you never do it when you were 8 years old? or ski to the top of a big kicker just to have a look at how fucking big this thing the cool guys with big clothes were spinning off, before the snowplowing back down it? i know i did.

just laught it off. instead of getting angry, just laugh and say look at that noob! and if it gets to the point where its no longer funny, shout at him or bite the bullet and go and tell him to move. sure its annoying, but its life, skiing is there for everyone to enjoy, no matter which way they choose to do it. yes i know it could be dangerous for muppets to be skiing the park, but it happens, and i would hate to see the day where my mates, or some of you gnarly kids, or me, was turned down from a park cos i wasnt good enough or some shit like that, or hadnt paid extra for a park pass.

and if i was some sunday skier, i would be pissed if some kid in clothes that were way too big macked it past me going backwards, or sprayed me, or jumped over my tips. stop thinking that because you're a park skier (which often means a good all round skier), that you are entitled to do what you want in some holier than thou way. respect others and it'll all be fine.

most of all; dont worry, be happy.

Mar 21 2008 7:57PM
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ontwosticks
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I think more parks should 1) make mandatory park passes for the bigger parks or 2) start putting fencing up around the take offs of jumps. I know snow trails in Ohio does that and then provide a path along the side if you don't want to hit a jib or jump on that row and ti does a pretty good job of keeping people off to the side and off landings. Something to make landings safer like that should be in place.
Mar 21 2008 8:00PM
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860
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I would love to know how I'm supposed to see a landing before hitting a jump, please tell me how
Mar 21 2008 9:37PM
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860
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And its never the jumpers fault, if im going to hit something and can't see the person, then its completely their fault, unless their hurt, then hitting them would be an accident. But people who just stand in the landing its completely there fault. I would say if you see someone crash and not ride away just go down and check it out. But in 97% of cases its the idiot sitting in the landings fault.
Mar 21 2008 9:43PM
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tride
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Awesome quote, I think we'll put that one up in the parks office under the heading "people unclear on the concept".

What, do you think you have a god given right to send it off any booter regardless of what is on the other side simply because you can't see it?

If you really can't figure out how to make sure there is nobody on the landing, then you shouldn't be hitting the jump. Just a hint, there are ways to determine whether or not a landing is clear even if you can't see it, I'll let you try and figure out the rest.....

I get as pissed off as anyone when some clown stops in a landing, but even worse is watching somebody who is already hurt from a crash get smoked by some jackass who doesn't bother to make sure the landing is clear.
Mar 21 2008 9:58PM
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860
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I can't believe you actually think the jumper is wrong, I'm all for accident if someone is hurt. I know you can ask other people or when I roll up to a jump wait a sec to see if anyone leaves the landing, but I'm not doing some thorough jump inspection before I hit things, people should get out of the way.
Mar 21 2008 10:03PM
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tride
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Come to our park with an attitude like that, you'll be escorted out of there in seconds. Maybe you should try telling that idiotic theory to the staff at any terrain park.

"It's never the jumpers fault" Holy fuck that's just incredible that people like you are even allowed to ski.

That's the worst fucking attitude about park responsibility that I've ever heard.
Mar 21 2008 10:04PM
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860
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Its rarely the jumpers fault, I acknowledged that in my other post. You don't sound like a very chill park crew guy. I know all the park crew at my mountain, and one of them almost hit 2 stupid kids in a landing after hitting a 40 ft table and he flipped out on them. Guess hes just stupid?
Mar 21 2008 10:07PM
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tride
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Good god, why do I even waste my time responding to shit like this?

Do you think at our park we don't also flip out on people who stop in landings? Of course we do.

But for the last time (and seriously I'm fucking done after this).... If you don't know that a landing is clear when you hit the jump, there could be some gaper stopped there, or there could be a fellow park rider lying there with a fractured neck for all you know. If you don't assume the responsibility to somehow make sure that landing is clear, then you are at 100% at fault if you send it and hit somebody, end of fucking story.

Try telling a judge that it was not your fault if you land on some injured kid in a landing and kill him.

And your parks guy who almost landed on 2 kids in his own park? Well yeah, he is stupid...

I've been as guilty as anyone, assumed landings are clear and then had close calls when it turned out there was someone standing/lying there, but I've always known that it would be my own fault if that resulted in me hitting someone.
Mar 21 2008 10:30PM
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860
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Whatever, I've never hit anyone in a landing so I don't worry about it. If you hit someone thats injured I'd say its either your fault (if you jumped the gun and just went not watching someone ride away) or its an accident. If you hit some idiot in the landing just chilling there its completely their fault. Just my view on it, obviously you have a different one and no one is going to change so meh
Mar 21 2008 10:33PM
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paone
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i agree with you man yes people are retards for sittin under the jump but it is our responsibilty to make sure its clear before you drop in if you land on the guy and hurt so much that he sues you he can win because you didn't check and technically hes in the right
Mar 21 2008 10:33PM
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rossiskier93
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first of all.. if someone is injured or crashed after a jump, then you should know the landing is not clear because you didnt see anyone ski out from the landing... you should never hit someone who got injured or fell (unless you are doing a train which would be unfortunate)

but lets say that some noob is skiing alongside the jump line (not over the rolls but to the side) and so they  arnt in your way so you start goin down the in run, you arnt going to be thinking about the noobs skiing down the sides, and most likely you will lose sight of the noob because your view will be instructed.  Just at that moment the noob which you cant see decides to cut into the landing and you hit them... then is it 100% the jumpers fault, i dont think so
Mar 21 2008 10:59PM
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phishfood
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wait the guy u hit bought u new skis??
what a cool guy

Mar 21 2008 11:10PM
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crazyfuck
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tride, get a hose to clean your vag out.  he bodyslammed a guy doin about 40 mph, give or take, and rode away from it clean and you're giving him a hard time about it?  come on, that's a good story!  christ, let's leave the PTA attitude at the door and try to have some fun in here.
Mar 22 2008 12:08AM
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