shopatron sucks a big cock. first of all, they charge me $9 to ship a pair of gloves. then, when you need to return something, they do not reimburse this shipping charge, and you also have to pay to ship the item back (another $6...how could it only cost me, an average person, $6 while it costs a mail order business $9? I smell rip off). finally, i sent the gloves back the second week of february, and have still not been credited for the return. shopatron is such bullshit, and I am outraged that so many ski companies would take a shortcut and sell their products this way, rather than having their own online store. dont ever buy anything from shopatron.