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wh@t
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looking deeper at the friends that i smoke with today kinda made me have a revelation. ive realized that everyone definitely smokes weed to escape something. now i know, people are gonna say "nahh i smoke weed cuz its dope shit! im just a partier." but then i'd say that person struggles with self esteem issues and has constantly strived for approval.

doesnt it make sense? i know thats a really shitty example but gimme a break, im high.
Mar 8 2008 12:56AM
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purplejumpsuit
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hahaha, I love the end line of your thread.
but anyways, that makes sense for the area i live in, most of the stoners I know are all doing really bad in school because they are trying soo hard to be cool, then they need a stress relief from the shitty school marks so they smoke more.
Mar 8 2008 12:59AM
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wh@t
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good, non-influenced example. read kiddies.
and thats kinda me. i smoke to escape the fate thats coming in half a years time when i move to Singapore and leave almost everything i have here. and other reasonss as well
Mar 8 2008 1:01AM
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twintipteles
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Well, certainly once it becomes an addiction you smoke to escape the state of sobriety.

Other than that, it's more about the reasons a person might have to be uncomfortable with their own state of sobriety, whether it be low self-esteem, or an entirely different issue. Every action one makes is an escape in one form or another. You can eat food to escape from hunger, or in many cases to escape from boredom or unhappiness.

Many, many people have problems accepting the way life/the world is, and it can manifest in many different forms.

I didn't really make any point there, but ironically I'm a little drunk right now  and not high at all.


Mar 8 2008 1:09AM
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wh@t
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thats what im saying. but im also looking a little bit deeper into this.

like the exact reasons why people smoke the tree.
Mar 8 2008 1:11AM
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charmander
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you're right

when im sober i'm suicidal

being high is when im happy
Mar 8 2008 1:13AM
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Yauch
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i guess so, but weed is fun regardless of escaping anything
Mar 8 2008 1:15AM
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bkjumpr
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I agree, its fun and all, but its definitely a way to escape.  but if you dig deep enough into anything its just an escape.  like all other hobbies.
Mar 8 2008 1:17AM
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wh@t
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true. but this comes in contact with what i said. because weed is fun and sobriety is not, people smoke weed to get free almost instant fun.
Mar 8 2008 1:17AM
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anxju
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well couldnt you then say that about anything?

i am going on newschoolers right now to escape boredom
Mar 8 2008 1:37AM
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wh@t
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im talking about specific reasons people smoke marijuana. not about everything.
Mar 8 2008 1:38AM
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laxstar
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just to let you know there is nothing in marijuana that makes you physically addicted look it up....i read it.. in a book
Mar 8 2008 1:43AM
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MESKI
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I dont smoke to escape anything. maybe many people do but i dont. I used to. i used to smoke cause i was super depressed and it brightened my day. but i quit for year and half and then started again. not to do it for escaping any particular reason, but just to do it once and while cause its a cool feeling. Like said before you can pertain this to anything. i go skiing cause its fun and a great feeling and makes me happy.
Mar 8 2008 1:43AM
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Elijah.
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Fuckin' right I smoke it to get away from reality.
Reality sucks dude, I don't know why you wouldn't want to get away.
Mar 8 2008 1:43AM
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LineM
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I smoke because it's simply better then being sober.
Mar 8 2008 1:48AM
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PilleDaKid
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Thats exactly the point. Think about it, people do things to get the certian feeling they want, or to escape the state they're in at the moment. You go on newschoolers to escape boredem, or you smoke weed to get away from reality and your shitty life, it's just that weed isn't a very smart, healthy, or safe way to escape from your life. None of that was directed at you you just had a good example with NS.
Mar 8 2008 9:35AM
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Pandana
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wouldn't everything fall under that catagory? Every time you do something it usually has a purpose, that being an outcome you desire? So how would smoking weed differ from doing homework? Both are choices you make because you want a specific outcome or feeling? Every time I take a piss I want to a acheive a certain outcome or feeling. That being one of an empty bladder.
Perhaps I missed the entire point of your post and rereading what i just wrote only confirms this suspicion.... I haven't slept.

Mar 8 2008 12:19PM
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crooks
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I'd say one of the main reasons I smoke weed is to get away from stress, but then again I also ski for that reason too so I don't see it as a problem.
Mar 8 2008 12:22PM
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emopoppins
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idk i smoke it to combine it with alcohol to get fucked up.
Mar 8 2008 1:52PM
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J-ray-may
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lol i dont smoke or drink bro you know that.

but then again you also know i escape things by breaking face
Mar 8 2008 1:53PM
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KeithB.
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My life used to revolve around smoking. I decided to quit and I feel better for it. I recently started again after a year of not, but only when I nordic ski. I am older than most of you guys on NS so I am coming from a little bit of a different place, but I honestly am not trying to escape when I smoke. I really just do it to have a little buzz when I nordic. I nordic at night after work or skiing to stay fit which has to do with that whole being older thing. If you are one who smokes to escape I think thats fine, you could be doing a lot worse. And no, weed is not physically addictive, it can be psycologically addictive, but so can anything in life including the chemicals released during activity such as skiing.
Mar 8 2008 2:10PM
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VT_FLO
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I disagree. It's only the stoners and kids who smoke *to be cool*, and smoke too much too often who end up using it as an escape. And yes, I would say it's mostly kids who do this. But there are more responsible smokers in the world who are more how you say, smart about their usage.

Once somebody breaks their moderation, which again happens to the developing brain most often they become escape users. This is one step towards addiction.

Kids in america are too uneducated about the drugs they are using. instead of saying dont smoke its bad, there should be some information that if you do decide to smoke that one should wait until the appropriate age when the brain is more developed to expirament with drugs.

Mar 8 2008 2:25PM
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VT_FLO
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9) Is it true that marijuana makes you lazy and unmotivated? Not if you are a responsible adult, it doesn't. Ask the U.S. Army. They did a study and showed no effect. If this were true, why would many Eastern cultures, and Jamaicans, use marijuana to help them work harder? `Amotivational syndrome' started as a media myth based on the racial stereotype of a lazy Mexican borracho. The prohibitionists claimed that marijuana made people worthless and sluggish. Since then, however, it has been scientifically researched, and a symptom resembling amotivational syndrome has actually been found. However, it only occurs in adolescent teenagers -- adults are not affected.




20) Aren't you afraid everyone will get hooked? Marijuana produces no withdrawal symptoms no matter how heavy it is used. It is habit forming (psychologically addictive), but not physically addictive. The majority of people who quit marijuana don't even have to think twice about it. Comparing marijuana to addictive drugs is really quite silly.

For a drug to be physically addictive, it must be reinforcing, produce withdrawal symptoms, and produce tolerance. Marijuana is reinforcing, because it feels good, but it does not do the other two things. Caffeine, nicotine and alcohol are all physically addictive.


http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info8.shtml

yeah, read up like that guy a few posts above me
Mar 8 2008 2:40PM
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Campeador
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I hear what you're saying. One of my roommates smokes a ridiculous amount of weed and just sits there all day playing video games. He even misses his classes, I think he's just trying to escape his life.
Mar 8 2008 3:01PM
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twintipteles
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Yeah, I am completely aware of that, although there is still some question about whether there are small degrees of physical addiction to marijuana. That being said, mental addiction is a very real thing and what I'm talking about.
Mar 8 2008 3:04PM
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twintipteles
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Also, to clarify my words, I agree with those who say everything is an escape. Pissing to escape a full bladder was a perfect example. Because something is an escape doesn't make it inherently bad. It's more about the reasons you might want to escape and your thought process.


Also, I love weed and I smoke it pretty frequently. That doesn't change the fact that it is an escape and can be either a positive or negative influence in many ways.
Mar 8 2008 3:11PM
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Dr.Dank
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Everything is more enjoyable high.

I dont have to smoke. If I'm offered some, I'm down. For example, I was at a party last night and I was really high. It was a lot more fun. I didn't escape anything. It used to be that I just wanted to smoke to escape boredom. Not anymore.
Mar 8 2008 3:55PM
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KeithB.
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You are all over the road my friend. I just finished reading your thread about how lucky we are to be alive and how precious being alive is and then you right this. I would support a decision in which you stop smoking and get your thoughts together, maybe take a good hard look at your life and make a concious effort to move forward in a positive direction for yourself.
Mar 8 2008 4:39PM
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shredwards
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Wow for a stoner revelation there is actually a shred of truth behind this. I like smoking weed, but i dont really have anything to escape so i haven't been doing it that much, only when i ski. When im pissed or stressed though i definitely toke more. Where I really noticed this though is with my friend. Kid smokes weed like  a fucking bonfire and im almost certain its cause he needs to get laid. Ive tried to help the kid, but his stonerness doesnt help the motivation or confidence. You reading this pukas?
Mar 8 2008 6:03PM
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MADmidwest
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^thats the problem. people think that they can't have fun inless they are high, drunk or on pills. This might sound like your mom but it is true that you can have fun without being messed up. Once you can have fun sober then i would say that it's Ok to dabble in some drugs here and there. If you think that you can't have fun inless your high then you will have some serious addiction problems. Sorry for sounding like your Mom
Mar 8 2008 6:30PM
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eastAR5
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im old enough to say now that i smoked way too fucking much in highschool.... if i had replaced that with alcohol it probably would of been a lot better in the end. i would of got way more pussy, had more fun, got better grades, wouldnt of gone through all the shit i had to deal with


i remember so many nights wherei couldnt do my homework cause i had smoked myself retarded that day and fell asleep at 6pm


but shit happened for a reason i believe. I needed to get high as possible all the time back then so thats how it was

Mar 8 2008 7:04PM
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saucer_boy_lives
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any mind altering experience can be related to escaping something. from drugs to athletics (such as skiing). ive also found people to smoke because their buddies are doing it, thus the title of a social drug. but yeah whatever helps you escape whatever plagues you; stress, family issues, school... etc. go ahead. not condoning it at all as it may not be the best way to go about things, but whatever floats your boat do it. a friend of mine used to abuse drinking heavily and since the person has started smoking weed, my friend hasn't touched alchy in over a month.
Mar 8 2008 7:12PM
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samskisalot
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my school has a pool and basketball courts, and drug use is as high as ever...
Mar 8 2008 7:18PM
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Reptar.
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It really makes my mundane routines less boring.
Mar 8 2008 7:25PM
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beer.
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smoking helps me cope with stress. its not a problem because whenever I smoke, its after a hard day of class/studying/errands, and I would just be sitting around my apartment anyways.  I too have ADD.  whereas I used to smoke and not do my work, I now try to smoke after my work is done.  if I am not done with my work, then its no problem anyways, because I realized that although I am bad at working when I am really high, if I wait til my friends go home and I am alone and just a little bit high, it really helps me focus.  some of the most effective work comes out of me when its midnight and I am still a little burnt.  I just open the books and get crackin.  although I tend to work slower, I am more thorough and less distracted.

I think it is true that weed is an escape though.  but its also fun.  like when you smoke on vacation you arent trying to escape anything.  you have no responsibilities besides having fun.
Mar 8 2008 7:36PM
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chickenwang
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then you get im going to smoke so i dont have to be on newschoolers cuz im that lazy.
Mar 8 2008 7:39PM
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popNfresh44
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yes, that is something a high person would say. and i cant really say i agree.
Mar 8 2008 8:31PM
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Alex_thedroog
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I love to just smoke and forget about everything
Mar 8 2008 8:34PM
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crooks
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hahah yeah that's my state of mind right now.
Mar 8 2008 11:40PM
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abbazabba21
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yea i always struggle with why i smoke...but not too bad of a struggle cuz i love it sooo much haha.  i think it just brings my life to a whole new level of experience.  when i'm skiing high i feel the most pure elation in the world.  granted skiing not high is almost as good, but after a nice fatty blunt in the woods, creepin back onto the trail and those first turns are pure bliss.
Mar 9 2008 12:16AM
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wh@t
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ahh fuck it im drunk. end of thread.
Mar 9 2008 1:16AM
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evan25
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i smoked a few times a day up until superbowl sunday where i got caught (i go to a boarding school) and honestly i just like to smoke because its fun and makes you look at things differently.  now that i am on drug testing and cant smoke at all any more i wish i still could and would just smoke less i feel like.
Mar 9 2008 1:25PM
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unchyll
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kids that smoke weed to get fucked up def are smoking to escape, i dont really see it as escaping, im so used to being high its kind of like a second mind state for me
Mar 9 2008 1:41PM
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Grove_Street
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see thats why i don't smoke serge, i have no self esteem issues, and pretty much everything is going smooth for me. by the way i don't mean to brag that was just my reason for not smoking so don't be angry and don't think that I'm trying to instigate anything
Mar 9 2008 9:39PM
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keystoner1
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i would say yeah cuz you can escape whatever. but weed also makes me think about myself as a human being and like how good of a person i am. but with friends who know how to have fun i love it. GHOSTRIDE YA WHIP!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 9 2008 9:47PM
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Nicholas.
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i didnt used to like smoking that much cause it makes me self concsious but lately whenever im mad or stressed i just find myself wishing i had a nice fat blunt to burn.
Mar 9 2008 9:50PM
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doritos
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Being high doesn't make me unmotivated. Smoking in general doesn't make me lazy. But coming down, holy fuckdamn, I'm such a worthless piece of shit. I used to smoke before work all the time and it went "Yay yay yay, this is fun, yay yay, hmm hmm, yay, having second thoughts... yay? oh shit i dont wanna do anything, fuck i just wanna sit mmm sitting is epic, yes yes, fuck work, sleep yes, awwwwesome" every time.

I don't really know why I smoke... a lot of the time it's boredom. Sometimes I don't even care about getting high I just enjoy the act of smoking and do it to pass the time. I guess if anything I'd say it's to escape reality but being high doesn't really offer a break from the real world it just... makes it more interesting.... I don't get laid enough, so I smoke instead, there's my reasoning.
Mar 9 2008 9:53PM
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gnustreetfool
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i smoke because its kool!
Mar 9 2008 9:57PM
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Mat.
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I love to get high and listen to my music...

how is that escaping my problems?
Mar 9 2008 10:01PM
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vzdz
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boredom = weed for me

sad but true, i'm trying to keep myself more productive instead of posting up on my couch before bed, zip a bowl with my roommate and watching planet earth...

but hey, i've always thought weed is way healthier than booze
Mar 9 2008 10:18PM
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saucer_boy_lives
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cause you know holding smoke in your lungs is way healthy.

why dont you argue that chocolate chips make for a better diet than twinkies.
Mar 9 2008 10:20PM
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