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Ski1erman
Posts: 124 - Karma: 10
why the hell does just about everyone hate america?   do you realize how good we have it?   if you dont like it, LEAVE!   go try living in burma, china, north korea.        all i ever see on NS is bitching and moaning about how much america sucks. and im so sick of it, i realize we are not perfect, but no one is, we have done so much good in the world!                 


Mar 2 2008 11:58PM
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purplejumpsuit
Posts: 2208 - Karma: 157
thats what people do on the internet, bitch about stuff.

but I gatta say I'm from Canada and love it.


Mar 2 2008 11:59PM
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eurotune2
Posts: 1450 - Karma: 10
maybe they where canadians?. haha juss kidding, thats also a pretty big generalization, i bet most of them dont hate the US as much as they say, its just was easier to hate on some thing that embrace/enjoy it.
Mar 3 2008 12:01AM
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eurotune2
Posts: 1450 - Karma: 10
way* easier
Mar 3 2008 12:02AM
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IcePointa
Posts: 1879 - Karma: 19
Its because people are starting to realize, that while its in a robber's interest to steal shit if he can get away with it, and it increases his standard of living, that doesn't make it morally ok.

Supporting a system that systematically steals the earth resources from its poor inhabitants, just to increase your own standard of living through kickbacks, makes you an asshole supporting one of the most basic manifestations of evil that we have in the world today.
Mar 3 2008 12:05AM
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EastcoastAR5
Posts: 2721 - Karma: 15
America is such a great country. Our constitution was so progressive and reasonable for its time period. HOWEVER. At the current state of affairs, we have the worst leader in history, a congress who does shit, bills which destroy our rights, corruption gang banging the citizens left and right and 2 terrible and unjustified wars. If you knew anything about this country, you would realize the government is here to SERVE the people. The majority of our founding fathers hated government, and wanted to provide every mean possible to protect the people from regimes which are currently in office.
Mar 3 2008 12:14AM
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rockyhockey11187
Posts: 1041 - Karma: 15
you're a tool
Mar 3 2008 12:14AM
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skiminnesota
Posts: 9093 - Karma: 429
sorry buddy, hitler, stalin, and mussolini are dead...   so who exactly are you talking about?
  unfortunately  kim jon ill    is not..


Mar 3 2008 12:25AM
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EastcoastAR5
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I meant for the united states buddy.
Mar 3 2008 12:26AM
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860
Posts: 2930 - Karma: 166
I won't disagree that here in America we are very well off and are one of the best places to live on the entire planet. But it comes at a heavy cost, what good comes to people here is sucked from other countries that we are exploiting endlessly. While things are and will continue to be good here, we are a huge burden on the planet, we use too many resources for the size of our population. America is a great place to live but we need to stop using so much of everything. Not everything needs to be so big, ride your bike places, get outside more, don't use so many things that you don't need to use. It doesn't seem like much but any little bit can help
Mar 3 2008 12:26AM
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IcePointa
Posts: 1879 - Karma: 19
Pretty sure he meant American history.
Mar 3 2008 12:27AM
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skiminnesota
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im just trying to understand your whole opinion here,    so you would call GW worse than the leaders i used in my previous post??  again i just want to make sure..
Mar 3 2008 12:36AM
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EastcoastAR5
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fuck no you moron. how can you even ask me that? as bad as bush is that question is just absurd.
Mar 3 2008 12:38AM
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Way*Mo
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Then Don't Ski. Skiers drive to the mountain for unnecessary recreation, ride gas powered lifts(mostly), drive snowmobiles, leave fluoro carbons in the snow to pollute and poison, etc, etc.

Also you can't ski on K2, Volkl, or use Ride snowboards because they are mad in China. A virtual third world country. Oh ans ski construction is very bad as well using harmful chemicals and glues. We also cut down oxygen producing trees to you as core materials.

Don't bitch if you aren't willing to make changes first yourself.


Mar 3 2008 12:39AM
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860
Posts: 2930 - Karma: 166
So you support terror to control the masses? You sound like a well informed person
Mar 3 2008 12:42AM
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IcePointa
Posts: 1879 - Karma: 19
So I can't live near some mountains and ride some gnar fucking powder? I can hike it, and regardless, there are sustainable fuels that would work just fine for lifts and transportation, but they're harder to monopolize so those in charge aren't interested. There are sustainable ways to make skis. A sustainable world doesn't mean living in a cave. We have good technology when correctly applied could give us all great lives.
Mar 3 2008 12:44AM
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skiminnesota
Posts: 9093 - Karma: 429
well you said.  we have to worst leader in the history..    all the people i used as examples were/are leaders,  so do you retract your statement?
Mar 3 2008 12:46AM
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IcePointa
Posts: 1879 - Karma: 19
what the hell man, are you serious?
Mar 3 2008 12:57AM
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skiminnesota
Posts: 9093 - Karma: 429
well he said what he said, not me.. and i want some clarification.   i want to see if he is man enough to say "im wrong" 
Mar 3 2008 1:06AM
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EastcoastAR5
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hahahahaha are you serious? I am not wrong in any way, I simply didn't specify something that was clearly implied. My whole paragraph was discussing AMERICA and nothing else. How and why would I make such a vulgar statement in the middle of (imo) a very reasonable discussion?
Mar 3 2008 8:47AM
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grahamhowe
Posts: 167 - Karma: 158
im from canada and i go to the states to buy shit sometimes because its super cheap. your iight in my books btu your president is a fucking moron.
Mar 3 2008 9:20AM
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pmills
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on NS??? no wayyyyyyy....

Mar 3 2008 9:27AM
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Alexander_Keith
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To Thread Creator.

People here with half a brain don't hate living IN America. We only hate how it is largely the actions of America which make other places in the world such a shit place to live.

The end.

Now get your head out of your ass.
Mar 3 2008 10:00AM
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Dustin.
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Hitler and Stalin did not care for their people which = poor leaders.  Powerful and brilliant, yes.  But not great leaders.
Mar 3 2008 10:22AM
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B.Snow
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BAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAH you are a tool
Mar 3 2008 10:24AM
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Blurst
Posts: 13577 - Karma: 10,169

that is true
and canada is where the love is at

Mar 3 2008 10:27AM
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freestyler540
Posts: 13083 - Karma: 18,720
Well put! I loved the US at the time of clinton. Ever since Bush got into power, I hated americans more each passing day.

Mar 3 2008 10:54AM
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KRASHED
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Mar 3 2008 11:19AM
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ax_murderer
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do you understand what will happen to these people if we stopped exploiting their cheap labor? they'd be even worse off
Mar 3 2008 11:25AM
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ax_murderer
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maybe you mean "here" not hear YOU FUCKING MORON IM SICK OF IT
Mar 3 2008 11:25AM
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ax_murderer
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get out of town u said histor y. i read it the same way he did...... and point proven..
Mar 3 2008 11:27AM
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IcePointa
Posts: 1879 - Karma: 19
Rofl, yea they're so glad that all their arable land is turning into factories, urban slums, and toxic mud pits so that they can make cool stuff for us.
Mar 3 2008 1:38PM
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kepler.
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Well every republican will say the U.S was so awesome during clinton because of Reagan. so you can never win.
Mar 3 2008 1:41PM
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IcePointa
Posts: 1879 - Karma: 19
Especially the ones that work in sweatshops for 10 hours a day for $1.50 that they use to buy food that they used to be able to grow themselves for a fraction of the labor they do now just to stay alive.
Mar 3 2008 1:44PM
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ax_murderer
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Except 1.50 is more than many people in those countries make and many of them would do ANYTHING to have such a job in a factory instead of searching through trash for a living. There must be some exploitation of workers in order to make globalization possible. Call me retarded, but its you who haven't looked at both sides of the problem.
Mar 3 2008 2:34PM
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ax_murderer
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http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=097356AF-D125-476E-8AD5-EA62B643F7CA



Nhep Chanda averages 75 cents a day for her efforts. For her, the idea of being exploited in a garment factory -- working only six days a week, inside instead of in the broiling sun, for up to $2 a day -- is a dream.
All the complaints about third world sweatshops are true and then some: factories sometimes dump effluent into rivers or otherwise ravage the environment. But they have raised the standard of living in Singapore, South Korea and southern China, and they offer a leg up for people in countries like
Cambodia.
''I want to work in a factory, but I'm in poor health and always feel dizzy,'' said Lay Eng, a 23-year-old woman. And no wonder: she has been picking through the filth, seven days a week, for six years. She has never been to a doctor.

Here in Cambodia factory jobs are in such demand that workers usually have to bribe a factory insider with a month's salary just to get hired.


Yes the situation is bad, but its nieve to think that taking away our sweatshops and factories is going to solve anything.
Mar 3 2008 2:39PM
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ax_murderer
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So they should modernize?
Mar 3 2008 3:53PM
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Yauch
Posts: 1685 - Karma: 62
people on welfare in this country get alot more than that dont they?
Mar 3 2008 4:28PM
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IcePointa
Posts: 1879 - Karma: 19
You're delusional. These people 'want' to work in a factory because this system has destroyed most of the natural wealth of their communities, and the rest is owned by rich corportions. So now they  have to either live on the street or work in a factory, but thats not a choice people should have to make, its designed to be like that. And they still end up living in urban ghettos anyway.
Mar 3 2008 4:29PM
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fujarome
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it seems like some of you have forgotten...hitler was VOTED into power. The people put him where he was, and once he was there, he abused the power terribly. But you have to realize, Germany was so bad at the time that the people wanted to a better, stronger leader, and hitler was that leader. I think he did a good job leading, but only in the way that he united an entire nation that was facing tough times and huge economic problems when he was elected. I am NOT saying that he was amazing, or that he was a good leader later on, but initially he did really well to reunite Germany.

But come on, putting him on the same level as George bush? come on, George Bush may not be well liked or anything, but i would hardly put the two together like that. And in any case, there is a major difference between the two...that being the fact that George Bush will soon be out of office, and not by resignation or anything.
Mar 3 2008 4:38PM
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Yauch
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hitler ruined a perfectly good style of mustashe, i think eventually it will start getting used again though
Mar 3 2008 4:49PM
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ax_murderer
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who is going to be shelling out for welfare? these countries cant afford something like that
Mar 3 2008 5:00PM
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IcePointa
Posts: 1879 - Karma: 19
I wonder why the hell hat might be...hmmm.
Mar 3 2008 5:02PM
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IcePointa
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that
Mar 3 2008 5:03PM
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ax_murderer
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http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dludden/SenGlobalism.htm


Indeed, we cannot reverse the economic predicament of the poor across the world by withholding from them the great advantages of contemporary technology, the well-established efficiency of international trade and exchange, and the social as well as economic merits of living in an open society. Rather, the main issue is how to make good use of the remarkable benefits of economic intercourse and technological progress in a way that pays adequate attention to the interests of the deprived and the underdog. That is, I would argue, the constructive question that emerges from the so-called antiglobalization movements.
Mar 3 2008 5:04PM
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IcePointa
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No shit, i think thats called a socialist democracy with capitalism on non-essential goods.
Mar 3 2008 5:11PM
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hendriab
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no im pretty sure thats not it....
Mar 3 2008 9:11PM
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ihatemyscratches
Posts: 753 - Karma: 9
such wisdom
Mar 3 2008 11:15PM
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smooticus
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I dont like it when people wont say the pledge in class, its really annoying, theres a whole bunch of russians at my school that are all really proud of themselves, which is fine.. but really you live in america and yet you disrespect by sitting while everyone stands, just get up and pretend to say it like everyone else.. But on the other hand i guess thats what america is all about right..
Mar 3 2008 11:21PM
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FilmingBitch
Posts: 6463 - Karma: 212
Let's all just make small stpes towards conservation - do what you can.
Here at Queen's we've been having an energy saving challenge to raise awareness and it's really working well. We can go online and see how much energy we've been saving this month in comparison to previous months just by doing simple things such as turning lights off in unused rooms, not using excessive amounts of water, turning computers off at night, taking shorter showers, using light from your windows instead of the electricity... all such small little steps but they actually do make a difference. The winning residence gets to donate the money saved from using less energy to the charity or their choice. We've been promoting (extensively) the consumption of fair trade coffee and educating people about what it is and how else to be conservative; buying more environment friendly foods/packaging, using travel mugs instead of disposable Styrofoam and the likes ( we have even been giving out free travel mugs to everyone interested as well as having a discount at our coffee shops to refill a travel mug instead of a disposable one). We have one coffee house known as the Tea Room, where everything is very environment friendly, biodegradable, fair trade, and even use composting worms for the compost/garbage. Queen's Hillel, a Jewish society began a program (anyone can now participate) where the food made by the cafeterias which is not used [and still in the trays, obviously] is picked up every night and brought around to different homeless shelters as well as in a van station for the homeless not in shelters to come and get a free, hot meal.

These are just some very small steps towards making a better way of living for everyone and raising awareness for those who have no idea.
We are trying, and some people just need to start caring more and maybe doing a little research about topics we aren't too sure of.
Mar 4 2008 3:45PM
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ski420patrol
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haha sorry dude there is no such thing as a gas powered lift. In very few cases they run on diesel, but thats only at very remote resorts where its cheaper to do that than run very high voltage lines to the lift. nice try though.
Mar 4 2008 3:51PM
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