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WTF is with hating on new technical tricks??

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Jibbidy
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I'm talking about all the hate that comes out when people are throwing 1440's, multi flips, and stuff like sammys flip, all that.

YOU WONDER WHY SKIING PROGRESSES TOO SLOW OR TAKES SO LONG TO GROW BIG?? 

FUCK YOU

STOP THE HATE AND GIVE THOSE TRICKS A YEAR OR TWO TO BE "STEEZIFIED"

And think 20 years ahead, how shitty and boring it would it be if all people kept throwing were 1080s to 1440s

I THINK that jumps will get progressively larger to a certain extent to allow the smoothing out of bigger spins and more technical shit

SO STOP SKIING IF YOU'RE GONNA HATE ON HOW THE PRO'S ARE PROGRESSING

IF YOU WERE ONE OF THE BEST PRO'S WOULD YOU JUST CONSIDER STOP PROGRESSING AND JUST KEEP THROWING WHAT YOU KNOW HOW TO DO??

Duh.


Feb 28 2008 11:45AM
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cousinmark
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http://https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/351900/
the hate is unbearable!




Feb 28 2008 11:49AM
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cousinmark
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https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/351900/
Feb 28 2008 11:53AM
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Jibbidy
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props to sammy for that, but what gives us any right to be picky??

Unless you're blind you know what hate I'm talking about, it happens all the time
Feb 28 2008 11:57AM
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freestyler540
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come up with some better topic to bitch about noob

Progression has been overplayed

Feb 28 2008 12:15PM
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jamiebrowne
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do you actually want skiing to be big?
personally, i would hate it, i like how it is a niche, 
example: you go to your local park and you see 20 snowboarders and 5 skiers
15 of those 20 snowboarders are gonna be "broboaders" they use to ride park and now they wanna relive the glory days of catching sky
the other 5 snowboarders actually know whats up
those 5 skiers, also knows whats up, maybe one of them wont follow the scene as much, or buy the movies etc.
more money in sport? fuck if someone in this sport can afford a lamborghini i think thats pretty good, maybe we just need the money more evenly spread out


Feb 28 2008 12:36PM
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Jibbidy
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take a look at skateboarding for example, it is massive, and still popular.

get serious
Feb 28 2008 12:40PM
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ballerman
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i agree with you but i think you're an alias
Feb 28 2008 12:52PM
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49566738265
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I just think it's funny that you said "FUCK YOU, STOP THE HATE"
Feb 28 2008 1:50PM
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XtRemE11
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i think having technical stuff is good, but too much of it can be a bad thing. style and technicality both are good when they are mixed togehter, but only doing steezy 180's gets old, and aerials are just gay. so you need a good blend of both. the one thing we need more of though is creativity, look at snowboarding, they can make a movie where half of it is jibbing shit no bigger than 4 feet tall, and doing sweet lines and just goofy stuff you never thought was possible, and its still better than any ski movie. skiers need to relax and have fun, it seems like everyone is trying to prove that skiing is cool by doing the craziest scariest trick they can, that shit is cool every now and then, but most people would much rather see and do creative stuff and just have fun. it kinda reminds me of rollerblading in a way, just not as bad. like how it seems that they just do the craziest biggest stuff they can thinking it makes them look "cool" but instead it just turns people away cause they dont like the serious no fun attitude.
Feb 28 2008 3:13PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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EXACTLY. skiing is going through a major stuntman phase - actually, maybe that's always been the norm for freeskiing. i would much rather watch a movie about a bunch of friends having fun out in the snow than a bunch of wiggers or tight-pants fashionistas trying to prove how cool they and skiing are. in my opinion, those who try to make skiing all badass are the ones who make it gay, those who go and have fun make it all that it is and all that it should be - fun. i'm not saying there's anything wrong with sick tricks - i don't care if you're doing 180s or 1620s - it should just be about fun. that's why i think gapers are great, seriously (as long as they're not doing stupid stuff like standing on jump landings) - they're some of the only people on the hill who don't give a shit what they look like, they're only there to have fun.
Feb 28 2008 3:53PM
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Keenbo
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you dont know me... for you to say "fuck you" to me is a very harsh thing to say... straight disrespectful homie.
Feb 28 2008 3:57PM
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Jibbidy
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real the thread title dipshit

this thread has nothing to do with any other hate

but i do hate you too



Feb 28 2008 5:23PM
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AB_Pow
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I thoroughly concur

Feb 28 2008 5:46PM
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elk.
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steezified... i loled
Feb 28 2008 7:12PM
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notomatoplz
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first post, alias?
Feb 28 2008 7:37PM
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.Capn.
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How is it hating? I dont "hate" guys that do them. I think there are just so many more, off axis tricks to improve, grabs to invent, new rail on's/off's to invent. But thats MY opinion if other people have fun doing them, righteous! But I think they are being done for publicity of the sport. Regular people that tune into the xgames would rather see some kid throw him self upside down as much and as high as possible than see a smooth off axis 720 with a nice grab. BUT I (personally) dont necessarily want the sport mainstreamed. I like being one of the few freeskiers at my mountain (the few times I get to ski...) than to be just another one of the 25 "radical" snowboarders. Again this is all MY opinion, and YOUR opinion was not worth a thread.
Feb 28 2008 10:52PM
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tele_tom
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I'm not hating either way here; I just want to point out that this same issue is hopping up in all extreme sports right now. freeride mountain biking, parkour, you name it. they're is a general trend leaning towards technical tricks, rather than smooth steezy lines. and there will always be some people riding everything a little less technically and with more style. for a sport to be really progressive it needs to be pushed technically, and still through in the steeze.
Mar 1 2008 7:20PM
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sirskizalot
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"progression has been overplayed"
wow ur dum
Mar 1 2008 10:17PM
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levistewart
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skiing isn't progressing too slow its ridiculous now
Mar 1 2008 10:48PM
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huckaberry
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there going to progress in tricks but not that much there just going to make new features and take the tricks there
Mar 2 2008 2:34AM
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alaskakid
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Guys guys guys! Stop this nonsense!  

FREEskiing, as in you do what YOU want, not what someone else wants. Who cares if your friend likes a DJ flip over pollard's cork 5's into pow. Thats the beauty of this sport, its free. There is no right or wrong. Speaking abut right or wrong...here's Nicolas Mueller segment straight from my vids. It tells my point perfectly.


word.
Mar 2 2008 2:53AM
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kristie
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^what he said.
Mar 2 2008 2:56AM
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PhaedeD
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mik d cork tail grabs over anything anyday.
Mar 2 2008 3:09AM
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artfullydodged
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skiing is fun
Mar 2 2008 11:57AM
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finnafuckyobitch
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i wouldnt mind seeing skiing progress the way skateboarding did with there being the big technical comp skaters and the smooth steezy video skaters that represent core skateboarding i think thatd be cool
Mar 2 2008 2:30PM
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PhaedeD
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we already have that. i mean you see the comp skiers in videos and stuff to but they seem to usually be in there own movies. then u have the pollard type films with all the dank skiers.
Mar 2 2008 3:46PM
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elk.
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i think skiing will always be a constant hate fest. theres always assholes out there that make other people feel extremly uncomfortable with there skiing abilities thus leaving them to never pro gress. i think that theirs either 2 types of skiers you can be. The good easy going skier progressing at his own pace while making new friends and having fun along the way. Or the uptight asshole that wants to be like t hall and hates on everyones shit. but thats just my opinion
Mar 2 2008 9:01PM
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laurence^
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ummm your a beast, you basically stole my exact thoughts from my brain, some people do this shit for funds while others do it for fun

Mar 2 2008 9:18PM
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elk.
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haha word dude
Mar 2 2008 9:19PM
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turbo_penguin
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yes.

lets compare...

spend $20197568 on new setups/outfits VS. grab your carhartts and texas longhorns coat.

head over to the park and check your outfit for max style VS. stumble upon the park and exclaim "holy shit, check this out!!"

chill at the top of the park and hate on styles / gapers VS. stand at the top of the park and gather the courage to ski way outside their ability and hit the jumps.

silently make sure everyone is watching, hit the kicker, come up a bit short on the rotation (because your concern was style, not spin to win) and slam VS. yell "HEY YA'LL WATCH THIS!", hit the kicker in a "pizza wedge" style approach, land about 2/3 of the way across the deck and slam.

clean yourself up, endure unbearable shame at the fact that you crashed and never speak of it again VS. clean yourself up, high five your buddies, and re-live that badass moment for the rest of spring break.

close out the day by making sure your pants fall just right over your boots for the walk to the parking lot VS.  taking shots out of a shot ski (altitude and cost be damned), while wearing rear-entry boots completely opened up and loudly recounting the day's extreme experiences.

Fun is first, everything else is showing off.  Gapers kill on the first, and often rule both.  It's important for you and me to make sure we can get the first part, before worrying about the second.








Mar 2 2008 10:02PM
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MADmidwest
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yeah, thats the biggest concern for skiing right now not too many technical tricks or anything else (not even like those are problems at all). I'm afraid that some people ski straight to the park and just try to show off to their posse or everyone else when they miss the whole fucking point. Ski to have fun, do a fucking straight ass huge daffy or a lu kang or a a stiffy backflip instead once in a while even if it doesn't look good because it's fun. Skiing should definetly not be serious. i'm not talking to everyone on here but i do talk to a lot of people that are just pure hate and i'm pretty sure have no fun.
Mar 2 2008 10:14PM
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who_cares
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my favorite kinda a skiers r the guys who have the huge beards, have ski bummed at one point or another and just ski cus its wat they like to do.  they come into the lodge and talk about their day, and what runs they did and their not complaining, their just out there to hav fun and ski.  not  hav the most steeze or the hugest ricks, but just doing what they want.

that's y i don't race anymore.  I used to race, but then i was like, i want to just ski, not race, not park, just ski.  i still go in the park, and i still enjoy crusing down the groomers, but above all, i ski.
Mar 2 2008 11:01PM
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doritos
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Haha word... I've gained a whole new respect for gapers today.
Mar 2 2008 11:03PM
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turbo_penguin
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also, i based at least some of the "non gaper" side of that from my day today, so I'm not trying to say that you suck and I don't.  It's just something interesting to think about when you're skiing and you see a pack of gapers living it up. 

however, it's still appropriate to chuckle if someone asks "where do you guys put all those moguls in the summer?"
Mar 3 2008 12:35AM
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alaskakid
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word. I agree to that post. That just made me respect gapers more!
Mar 3 2008 1:12AM
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bernard.saucier
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Amen!
Mar 3 2008 11:10AM
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[unplugged]
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id rather see a clean 5 than a sketchy 10 anyday but thats just me
Mar 3 2008 11:22AM
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albatross.
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"PROGRESSES

FUCK YOU

"STEEZIFIED"

PROGRESSING

PROGRESSING"


fixed original post for you.
Mar 3 2008 4:22PM
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.Capn.
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Wrong. NEW SCHOOLERS will always be a constant hate fest. when your actually on the hill ,in comps or just for fun, skiers are probably the most supportive and helpful of athletes (much more than kids who play baseball ect.). Its just on NS when its not face to face that kids will be bitches to one another.
Mar 3 2008 5:14PM
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bernard.saucier
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Skiing is peaceful where i ride.
Mar 3 2008 6:56PM
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albatross.
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well have you considered progressing it or even steezifying it?
Mar 3 2008 6:57PM
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turbo_penguin
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^ ha.  allegedly it can be all of the above.  this is your mission, should you choose to accept it.
Mar 3 2008 9:03PM
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almondzional
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no doubt, skiers are generally great people.

If these people complaining about progression saw someone pull a 14 you think they would go bitch at them? I highly doubt that. they'd be fucking amazed. these people complaining are the ones that cant do the technical stuff and cant do the steezy ether. no wonder their bitching.
Mar 3 2008 9:30PM
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PhaedeD
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i am an old man. i go for steeze and not death.
Mar 4 2008 1:32AM
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feihlination
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there is possibility that skiing makes the same progression as freeride mountainbiking did some years ago (basically i got this from a german magazine).

like 7 or 8 years ago, freeriders and downhillers were progressing towards dropping huge cliffs and riding almost impossible lines (just as the red bull rampage shows). than there were a lot of injuries and the guys that can actually ride a bike are still on the top of the crop, for example garcia. and everything got a little smaller and less extreme than it was in my opinion (but way more controlled).

in skiing this could mean that everyone is looking for those 140 ft where they can steeze out their double flips, double corks and what the heck. but some guys that arent ready for this will hurt themselves on these obstacles or while doing double flips. tanner pointed this out too, he said that so much more people are throwing kangaroos and a lot of them hasnt the control over the rotation (i am not talking about first class pros, but sponsored guys that look for every possibility to get more famous).

just watch the "pistol flip" on youtube of this french guy. i mean, he is not bad, but in my opinion hes lucky to land on his feet. hes not wearing a helmet and i guess i dont have to say more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9cH4ngPSN8


and i hope that skiing goes in a direction where you dont have to be a brainless hucker to be considered good, i want it to be like freeride mountainbiking these days. 

Mar 4 2008 8:49AM
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SkierX
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You rule.

Gapers, although they drive me nuts when they are just completely in the way sometimes, define freeskiing to the dot on the i. They do whatever they want, and have loads of fun doing it.

And bottom-line, that's all that freeskiing is.
Mar 4 2008 10:28AM
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